Mega Thread Non-Freo AFL Discussion 2024 Part 2

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AFLPA and APLCA awards for best player I’d imagine would be more meaningful than a Brownlow as it is your peers that call you “the best” not a bunch of flogs who seem to have it in for us
 

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Shows you how much they carry their teams.

In some ways. You wouldn't say that about Collingwood in 2023 and Daicos polled 28 votes.

As I mentioned a few pages ago it's just hard as a player to get past the superstars just to get a vote because you have to be in the best 3 out of 44/46 players in a game.
 
Total Brownlow votes per team in 2024

1st - Sydney (103 votes): made finals

2nd - Western Bulldogs (91 votes): made finals

3rd - Fremantle (87 votes): DID NOT make finals

3rd - Carlton (87 votes): made finals

5th - GWS (85 votes): made finals

6th - Port Adelaide (84 votes): made finals

7th - Hawthorn (82 votes): made finals

7th - Brisbane (82 votes): made finals

9th - Geelong (68 votes): made finals

To be the only team in the top 9 polling teams to not make finals really highlights how vastly we underachieved this season
 
Total Brownlow votes per team in 2024

1st - Sydney (103 votes): made finals

2nd - Western Bulldogs (91 votes): made finals

3rd - Fremantle (87 votes): DID NOT make finals

3rd - Carlton (87 votes): made finals

5th - GWS (85 votes): made finals

6th - Port Adelaide (84 votes): made finals

7th - Hawthorn (82 votes): made finals

7th - Brisbane (82 votes): made finals

9th - Geelong (68 votes): made finals

To be the only team in the top 9 polling teams to not make finals really highlights how vastly we underachieved this season
It was evident when the AA squad came out


We have the talent here
 
Brownlow isn't a serious award. Let's be honest here. It's voted on by a bunch of 5'5 60kg lawyers and accountants who have no real feel for or knowledge of the game they officiate. The coaches and players awards mean much more.

45 votes 🤣
 
Total Brownlow votes per team in 2024

1st - Sydney (103 votes): made finals

2nd - Western Bulldogs (91 votes): made finals

3rd - Fremantle (87 votes): DID NOT make finals

3rd - Carlton (87 votes): made finals

5th - GWS (85 votes): made finals

6th - Port Adelaide (84 votes): made finals

7th - Hawthorn (82 votes): made finals

7th - Brisbane (82 votes): made finals

9th - Geelong (68 votes): made finals

To be the only team in the top 9 polling teams to not make finals really highlights how vastly we underachieved this season
Years ago I did some analysis, and “team Brownlow votes” tends to correlate with future success. Ie if you miss finals and your team polls top four in the Brownlow, expect to make top four in succeeding years. Hadn’t looked at it for ages though and it may no longer hold.
 
Total Brownlow votes per team in 2024

1st - Sydney (103 votes): made finals

2nd - Western Bulldogs (91 votes): made finals

3rd - Fremantle (87 votes): DID NOT make finals

3rd - Carlton (87 votes): made finals

5th - GWS (85 votes): made finals

6th - Port Adelaide (84 votes): made finals

7th - Hawthorn (82 votes): made finals

7th - Brisbane (82 votes): made finals

9th - Geelong (68 votes): made finals

To be the only team in the top 9 polling teams to not make finals really highlights how vastly we underachieved this season
Fk sake, every metric except the bloody ladder says Freo were a top team this season. Heartbreaking.
 

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Years ago I did some analysis, and “team Brownlow votes” tends to correlate with future success. Ie if you miss finals and your team polls top four in the Brownlow, expect to make top four in succeeding years. Hadn’t looked at it for ages though and it may no longer hold.
keep pickin those cherries Jimmy
 
Putting my conspiracy theory hat on, umpires pumped votes into Cripps to avoid the AFL having the embarrassment of Heeney finishing with most votes but not winning.
 
Putting my conspiracy theory hat on, umpires pumped votes into Cripps to avoid the AFL having the embarrassment of Heeney finishing with most votes but not winning.

Cripps already had 31 votes by that Heeney suspension, but they did give him the three votes four times and another two in there just to make sure of it.
 
The ineligibility for being suspended is as dumb rule in the sense that you still poll votes for something you can’t win.

What even is the point of the umpires voting for someone if they can’t win? They’re out of the running so why deprive votes for someone who might be the fourth best player or someone goes from 2 to 3 votes.

The votes are irrelevant when you’re not able to win so might as well void them from being able to poll votes too
 
On the Brownlow. The much vaunted Carlton team, the team rated by a load of media "Experts" as the top rated team and mid field, polled 87 vote all up. Of that 87, 45 were polled by Cripps.
How much smoke have the ,especially Melbourne media, been blowing up the Carltons clackers!!!
The Fox team have raved about them all year ,yet only managed to register about one vote per player after taking the Cripps votes out.
 
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The ineligibility for being suspended is as dumb rule in the sense that you still poll votes for something you can’t win.

What even is the point of the umpires voting for someone if they can’t win? They’re out of the running so why deprive votes for someone who might be the fourth best player or someone goes from 2 to 3 votes.

The votes are irrelevant when you’re not able to win so might as well void them from being able to poll votes too
So do they take away the votes previously won!!!
 
So do they take away the votes previously won!!!

While this would be ideal, it makes more sense to simply ignore the player from the voting once they are rubbed out.

I know this opens up issues if a player gets suspended round 1 v round 23, however it seems really silly to continue to give votes to an ineligible candidate.

If a politician somehow becomes ineligible in an election, you wouldn’t vote for them would you?
 

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