Mega Thread Non-Freo AFL Discussion 2024

[mightymouse75]

For all of you concerned about a Harley Reid. Remember the flash in the pan who won the rising star.
Reace Palmer.

 

[Joao]

Coupla things;
You forgot Jai Culley. Could be good.

I'm not so sure WC has more pain ahead. They are going to keep targeting free agents with their (sussly unlimited) cap space and bring in mid age-range players to cover for the retiring veterans. The days of the amusing 100+ thrashings are likely behind them now.

And finally, I thought Jamie Cripps was 52. Looks at least a year older than me.

I hope they agree with you and load up for a crack at finals in the near future. They have such little quality below the age of 26. As good as many of their senior players still are, they've all shown the ability to get injured at any given point in time.

That strategy you are championing is basically what we tried in 2018 and we absolutely butchered it. The only team to rebuild on the run with FA and trade only is Geelong. So West Coast are going to need to find Danger and Cameron.

You don't get McGoverns, Yeos, Barass etc from FA too often and certainly not enough to cover 10 of them over 2-3 years

They've still got years to rebuild the new core of the team which currently consists of Allen, Waterman, Hough, Reid and Ginbey as players that look set for 200+ game careers. Another 10+ to go.

 

[Spirit Level]

For all of you concerned about a Harley Reid. Remember the flash in the pan who won the rising star.
Reace Palmer.

He's definitely way better than Rhys Palmer

I think he's almost at his peak already though, he's matured early and is basically already an AFL player

 

[mightymouse75]

He's definitely way better than Rhys Palmer

I think he's almost at his peak already though, he's matured early and is basically already an AFL player

The man child.
Palmer was brilliant in his first year playing for an average team.
Similar traits.
The second year blues hit hard, injury, opposition coaches negated him and he never recovered.

 

[Ge3ks]

That strategy you are championing is basically what we tried in 2018 and we absolutely butchered it. The only team to rebuild on the run with FA and trade only is Geelong. So West Coast are going to need to find Danger and Cameron.

They will still be hitting the draft hard, too, but my point was that they have ways to finagle their salary cap. Seems they will be able to rebuild and top up at the same time.

 

[Trouto]

Actually loving these optimistic and giddy fans.
Don’t tell them that the whole team is held up by the experienced players

Darling 33 31
Sheed 29
Cripps 32
Waterman 27 26
McGovern 32
Barass 28
Kelly 29
Ryan 28 27

Not to mention
Gaff 33 31
Yeo 32 30

Little youth other than Reid. Maric meh. Chesser is a fail.
Hough is alright, but he’s a defensive small defender. Hardly inspiring

The rebuild actually haven’t really began if you really think about it.

fixed it for you

 

[Paracleet]

Reece Palmer / Reid analogy? This is wishful thinking Reid is a superstar. Best first year player since Judd easily. Sure we haven't seen how is going to handle a proper tag or how his first couple of leg injuries impact his explosiveness (Judd was decidedly mortal the second half his career after injury took the edge off his explosiveness. That second Brownlow was a disgrace), but a flash in the pan? Ludicrous.

Also to all the West Coast fans chiming in here to correct mistaken impression here that you are not back (which is mad in itself, as if what we think would make a difference): You are not back yet. There is a long way to go given the shape of your list profile. You should hope for your own sake that your admin is not secretly back on the bathwater: It would be a mistake to assume your squad can be built back to contention while the current star players aged 29+ are still stars. Sure, it's not impossible: What I'm staying is the Eagles strategy should be to assume it won't happen and act accordingly. If does happen it's a bonus.

 

[DragoDelph]

fixed it for you

 

[Trouto]

Reece Palmer / Reid analogy? This is wishful thinking Reid is a superstar. Best first year player since Judd easily. Sure we haven't seen how is going to handle a proper tag or how his first couple of leg injuries impact his explosiveness (Judd was decidedly mortal the second half his career after injury to the edge off his explosiveness. That second Brownlow was a disgrace), but a flash in the pan? Ludicrous.

Also to all the West Coast fans chiming in here to correct mistaken impression here that you are not back (which is mad in itself, as if what we think would make a difference): You are not back yet. There is a long way to go given the shape of your list profile. You should hope for your own sake that your admin is not secretly back on the bathwater: It would be a mistake to assume your squad can be built back to contention while the current star players aged 29+ are still stars. Sure, it's not impossible: What I'm staying is the Eagles strategy should be to assume it won't happen and act accordingly. If does happen it's a bonus.

you are right, we do need to put things in perspective. But after our last couple of years, its hard not to let emotions boil over. I get we are not world-beaters, but from where we were, we are heading in the right direction.

 

[Kapow!!!]

you are right, we do need to put things in perspective. But after our last couple of years, its hard not to let emotions boil over. I get we are not world-beaters, but from where we were, we are heading in the right direction.

Absolutely fair. If you have historically awful seasons, and those 2 were some of the worst of all time, these results are bloody worth getting excited about. It's nowhere near the finished product but you take these ones as they're a sign of what can happen to come. Step one on the way back up is to make home games harder for travelling sides.

As for the rebuild, well, if you rebuild your midfield first you end up a lot more competitive quickly. Good thing you'd already started developing Waterman and Allen before the cliff came as well. I don't share the pessimism, I think West Coast look in good shape going forward. Though, the next 2-3 years will be the most critical as you have to replace the second wave of your previous core. Some fascinating off-seasons coming up.

 

[FreoRicci]

fixed it for you

Wow…
Still proved my point though.
Thank you kindly

 

[Joao]

They will still be hitting the draft hard, too, but my point was that they have ways to finagle their salary cap. Seems they will be able to rebuild and top up at the same time.

I highly doubt that. I know it's popular to claim certain clubs rort caps and probably some do, but there isn't some magic where they can find a dozen quality players out of nowhere.

 

[Tony_Clifton]

I had a giggle.

 

[pK75]

I had a giggle.View attachment 1994948

Maybe they should wait for him to extend that contract before writing articles like this. Side note, how dumb do North Melbourne look now winning that last game last year and missing out on Reid.

 

[Cam Payne]

Salary caps are easy to circumvent, but not always enough to hold a player. Nigel Satterly was the person most disappointed when Chris Judd left. "I made him a multimillionaire" Nigel was heard to opine upon Chris deciding to leave WC.

 

[FreoRicci]

I had a giggle.View attachment 1994948

Have to push out Yeo, Gaff, Darling and McGovern on their overpriced contracts though.

 

[pK75]

Have to push out Yeo, Gaff, Darling and McGovern on their overpriced contracts though.

Yeo and Gaff are out of contract this year aren’t they?

 

[FreoRicci]

Yeo and Gaff are out of contract this year aren’t they?

Free agents I believe.
Yeo will demand ridiculous money.

 

[DragoDelph]

Maybe they should wait for him to extend that contract before writing articles like this. Side note, how dumb do North Melbourne look now winning that last game last year and missing out on Reid.

Or even not just giving up picks 2 & 3 for him.

 

[Paracleet]

Or even not just giving up picks 2 & 3 for him.

That was still the right decision, it's not basketball. 18 on the field.

 

[MadEyeEmmy]

Lol at the WCE fans coming here to tell us they are on the improve. Good on ya

 

[Ge3ks]

I highly doubt that. I know it's popular to claim certain clubs rort caps and probably some do, but there isn't some magic where they can find a dozen quality players out of nowhere.

Well perhaps you are right since they are gonna have to spend half their salary cap on Reids next contract. Haha.

 

[Joao]

Well perhaps you are right since they are gonna have to spend half their salary cap on Reids next contract. Haha.

That I do agree with. That dude is getting $2m offers from Victoria.

 

[Shueygod]

I don't think it is just coincidence that Reid and Waterman are both staring at home games compared to their away performances.
Reid averages about 15 disposals away and has kicked 1 goal from his 4 games vs 20 disposals and 6 goals at 5 home games.
Waterman averages 2 goals a game more at home.

Both of these players are playing great football, but favorable umpiring makes a difference to what they can get away with and just as importantly, what their opposition can do to counter them.

Waterman has 4 frees for the season.

 

[anchor man]

For all of you concerned about a Harley Reid. Remember the flash in the pan who won the rising star.
Reace Palmer.

The kid can play. Any football person would be able to see that.
Yes Palmer could play, but got a bit ahead of himself I think.
Hopefully this kid does not go that way.
Hopefully all the shit that the Dirty RAG have been posting about him doesn't go to his head.