Non Lions Discussion 2024

[martinson]

Time.

Oh dear.

 

[Nathan Barley]

What's the deal with 9/11 these days.

I'm an undercover woke police officer and you're cancelled

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Holocaust and 9/11 jokes aren't the same as rape jokes or racist jokes IMO (unless you're entertaining denialist fantasies). It's why I was specific in my original post.

The golden rule with Comedy is "where's the joke?". With Cosby or Weinstein, the joke is very clearly on the person - they're a fraction of a human that they can think those acts are OK. The victims are not the

I don't mind jokes that push the realms of bad taste or have a problem sifting through the nuance of a joke to find what's funny to me. It's why I can still sift through old Eddie Murphy, Rodney Rude and 12th Man recordings and get the occasional chuckle. I can still watch a Kevin Spacey film and appreciate his acting skills without conflating his actions away from the screen. To be honest, I'm not even offended by the twin towers bit and a small part of me would have like to see how it looked to see if it actually was funny (I don't really see it, but visual gags are sometimes that way).

But the moment the joke was not about Hayne, but his victim (according to the reports of what occurred), was the moment it wasn't funny (and the odds are it was borderline in the first place). Because it was about the act and it was implying the joke was on the girl. That she were the one that deserves to be made fun of.

I'm not surprised, but I'm still struggling to see why some don't see that.

 

[martinson]

The golden rule with Comedy is "where's the joke?". With Cosby or Weinstein, the joke is very clearly on the person - they're a fraction of a human that they can think those acts are OK. The victims are not the

I don't mind jokes that push the realms of bad taste or have a problem sifting through the nuance of a joke to find what's funny to me. It's why I can still sift through old Eddie Murphy, Rodney Rude and 12th Man recordings and get the occasional chuckle. I can still watch a Kevin Spacey film and appreciate his acting skills without conflating his actions away from the screen. To be honest, I'm not even offended by the twin towers bit and a small part of me would have like to see how it looked to see if it actually was funny (I don't really see it, but visual gags are sometimes that way).

But the moment the joke was not about Hayne, but his victim (according to the reports of what occurred), was the moment it wasn't funny (and the odds are it was borderline in the first place). Because it was about the act and it was implying the joke was on the girl. That she were the one that deserves to be made fun of.

I'm not surprised, but I'm still struggling to see why some don't see that.

If it's as you describe it's not funny and obviously others thought that.

I don't see how any joke about the Holocaust could be funny in whatever way it was portrayed. Period.

 

[Nathan Barley]

If it's as you describe it's not funny and obviously others thought that.

I don't see how any joke about the Holocaust could be funny in whatever way it was portrayed. Period.

Did you see Jojo Rabbit?

 

[mpal6]

Finally Matt Rosa is getting some clear air to do what he wants to do

Essendon’s three-year ‘Rosa plan’: A cop out or the right decision?

The Bombers are looking to prioritise the draft.

www.sen.com.au

Dodoro really went for that one last gold star in 2023 trading period playing russian roulette with Essendon list. Loaded them up with Goldstein, Duursma, Gresham, McKay. Whatever $$ is locked up against these 4, no idea. But Rosa can slowly unpick the list now and start shaping it in a way he's happy to build it.

Quiet is good for Bombers for a change, not to mention they got rid of Nick Hind

19

Nick Hind

Age

30

Ht

180cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.7

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.5

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.9

4star

MG

117.0

2star

D

9.5

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

5.5

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.0

3star

MG

117.0

2star

D

10.2

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.2

4star

and Jake Stringer

25

Jake Stringer

Age

30

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

4star

G

1.8

5star

D

8.5

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.5

1star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

4star

G

2.5

5star

D

7.2

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

2.4

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.4

5star

in one go.

 

[Elixuh]

Finally Matt Rosa is getting some clear air to do what he wants to do

Essendon’s three-year ‘Rosa plan’: A cop out or the right decision?

The Bombers are looking to prioritise the draft.

www.sen.com.au

Dodoro really went for that one last gold star in 2023 trading period playing russian roulette with Essendon list. Loaded them up with Goldstein, Duursma, Gresham, McKay. Whatever $$ is locked up against these 4, no idea. But Rosa can slowly unpick the list now and start shaping it in a way he's happy to build it.

Quiet is good for Bombers for a change, not to mention they got rid of Nick Hind and Jake Stringer in one go.

McKay was the second highest paid player in the league this year

 

[McIvor]

Ross drops the names of Tasmania's first AFL coach and football boss on Rumour File - 3AW Breakfast with Ross and Russel

Ross revealed all on the Rumour File!

omny.fm

 

[McIvor]

Hard to argue with that sentiment about later picks; a few that spring to mind include Lester, Oscar, Zorko at the Lions, but with this recent talk about the precious elite players not wanting to leave Melbourne (Scheezel, Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

, Archie Smith

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Archie Smith

Age

29

Ht

203cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.5

2star

K

2.6

1star

HB

6.9

4star

CL

2.1

4star

HO

14.4

5star

D

4.7

1star

K

1.7

1star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

2.0

4star

HO

11.3

5star

D

12.4

4star

K

3.4

2star

HB

9.0

5star

CL

3.0

5star

HO

17.8

5star

and a few others) and their entitlement, I get why comments like this are made.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

Hard to argue with that sentiment about later picks; a few that spring to mind include Lester, Oscar, Zorko at the Lions, but with this recent talk about the precious elite players not wanting to leave Melbourne (Scheezel, Bailey Smith, Archie Smith and a few others) and their entitlement, I get why comments like this are made.

Generalisations will always be just that, with cherry picked examples that support whichever line is taken.
I'm sure we could find numerous examples of high draft picks with laudable character and vice versa.

 

[bungalow_bill]

I'm sure we could find numerous examples of high draft picks with laudable character and vice versa.

Rayner McCluggage Ashcroft just from the Lions.