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It's not hard at all. 29yo Garner (5) and 27yo Riddell (2) have 7 AA selections between them.

Marinoff (5) and Hatchard (4), who are both 25yo, have 9 AA selections between them.
They were the only two that came to mind, but I don’t think they are any better than Garner and Riddell but they have played on better, stronger teams. Also, both Marinoff and Hatchard have played together since the very first AFLW season while Riddell didn't play the first two and missed a majority of a third with an ACL (IIRC) injury and Garner came across from Collingwood and so they have really only had four seasons working together in the middle.

Marinoff and Hatchard may have better resumes but they have been playing together longer, and I don’t think they have produced a season quite like what Garner and Riddell are producing this season, barring something catastrophic both are locks for AA this year, I’m not 100% convinced the Crows stars are locks at the moment.
 
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Did anybody see what Beth Lynch did a couple weekends ago? Suspended for driving her knee into a player who was comprehensively outplaying her.

Too worried about other people, not focussing on the football. When in a football environment, aggressive focus on the football is the most important thing.

They were the only two that came to mind, but I don’t think they are any better than Garner and Riddell but they have played on better, stronger teams. Also, both Marinoff and Hatchard have played together since the very first AFLW season while Riddell didn't play the first two and missed a majority of a third with an ACL (IIRC) injury and Garner came across from Collingwood and so they have really only had four seasons working together in the middle.

Marinoff and Hatchard may have better resumes but they have been playing together longer, but I don’t think they have produced a season quite like what Garner and Riddell are producing this season, barring something catastrophic both are locks for AA this year, I’m not 100% convinced the Crows stars are locks at the moment.
If against Melbourne this weekend, Garner and Riddell greatly exceed the 60 disposals, 4 goals and 19 tackles that Hatchard and Marinoff produced (say 70 disposals, 5 goals and 25 tackles), I'll happily say they are now the best midfield duo in the competition.

If they fall well short (say 40 disposals, 1 goal and 10 tackles), I'll remember to make lame excuses by talking about Riddell missing 5 games in 2019 with an ankle injury, or how Hatchard and Marinoff started playing together before AFLW existed.
 
Some crazy output this season aside from the Brisbane blip.

Horror couple of weeks coming up though, teams that routinely burst our bubble.

We've created one hell of a platform this year, fingers crossed we can push to the last week this time round.

(obviously an actual flag would be nice too)
 
Did anybody see what Beth Lynch did a couple weekends ago? Suspended for driving her knee into a player who was comprehensively outplaying her.

Too worried about other people, not focussing on the football. When in a football environment, aggressive focus on the football is the most important thing.


If against Melbourne this weekend, Garner and Riddell greatly exceed the 60 disposals, 4 goals and 19 tackles that Hatchard and Marinoff produced (say 70 disposals, 5 goals and 25 tackles), I'll happily say they are now the best midfield duo in the competition.

If they fall well short (say 40 disposals, 1 goal and 10 tackles), I'll remember to make lame excuses by talking about Riddell missing 5 games in 2019 with an ankle injury, or how Hatchard and Marinoff started playing together before AFLW existed.
I noticed you were a little selective in the stats you chose, you didn't include clearances (I would have thought an important stat for midfielders) because Marinoff and Hatchard combined for only 6 which is less than what both Garner and Riddell average per game and you didn't include turnovers and clangers either because both Marinoff (7 turnovers and 6 clangers) and Hatchard (6 and 7) were a little wasteful with their possessions. So maybe Garner and Riddell combining for less than average clearances and 30 or more turnovers and clangers could be another set of stats to keep an eye on. :D

While we are trying to work out who is the better judge on players and their performances, let's bring in the coaches. Here are the coaches votes for Round 7.

Coaches' votes, R7: Roo extends lead, young Saint's perfect 10

North Melbourne v Yartapuulti​

9 Jasmine Garner (NMFC)
9 Ashleigh Riddell (NMFC)
5 Alice O'Loughlin (NMFC)
5 Jenna Bruton (NMFC)
1 Mia King (NMFC)
1 Erika O'Shea (NMFC)

LEADERBOARD​

60 Jasmine Garner NMFC
49 Laura Gardiner SYD
47 Ally Anderson BL
47 Ebony Marinoff ADEL
45 Bonnie Toogood ESS
44 Ashleigh Riddell NMFC
42 Monique Conti RICH
40 Madison Prespakis ESS
39 Kate Hore MELB
39 Charlie Rowbottom GCFC
38 Tyla Hanks MELB
35 Brittany Bonnici COLL
35 Anne Hatchard ADEL
35 Alyce Parker GWS
34 Claudia Whitfort GCFC
30 Emily Bates HAW
30 Brianna Davey COLL
29 Nina Morrison GEEL
29 Georgie Prespakis GEEL
27 Jaimee Lambert STK
27 Amy McDonald GEEL
27 Ally Morphett SYD

Garner is now more than a game clear in front and Riddell is now in the top six.
 
Usually once the game is over you can go through gaps in the fences on any side - today wasn’t great, I actually got out faster by going across the oval in the kick to kick than I would have waiting for the crowd to be let out past the race.

The difficulty getting out had a silver lining from my point of view. Clarko walked through the crowd and said thanks mate as he manoeuvred past and gave me a pat on the back in appreciation of me getting out of the way. :)
 
Saw a liitle bit of Gold Coast's last game v Brisbane, Viv Saad was marking anything that came her way, played well, good on her.
I think GC moved her back to defense and she excelled as a fullback/centre half back. I think she has worked on her kicking as well as she has a better disposal efficiency than Ebony Marinoff. :D
 

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Bullshit. He shits on Garner any chance he gets.

2 time winner of the coaches award and currently leading it this year.

How many times have Hatchard or Marinoff won it? Big fat ******* 0.

There are some facts for you.

I disagree with the Bullshit bit, especially after meeting H2H for the first time yesterday. Not in anyway a criticism of you H2H.

However I have to agree with DarwinRoo and his assessment of Teen Wolf and his/her comments about Jassy. This is not the first time Teen Wolf has downplayed her work.

My personal opinion is that she is the best player in the competition right now and FWIW, it is not unusual to hear the commentators say the same.
 
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I gave it a few goes and each time I had North beating Melbourne in the Grand Final. :thumbsu:

I also had Essendon finishing in the top 4 each time, it pays to have an easy draw.
 
I noticed you were a little selective in the stats you chose
I didn't select the stats. The people I responded to selected them. The original question talked about disposals and goals.

Then another poster said Garner and Riddell "do the defensive acts better than most mids", even though the stats say they don't do that as well as Bruton and Mia King, let alone Marinoff and Hatchard.

That poster also mentioned clearances, which I didn't bother bringing up since the 6 that Marinoff and Hatchard last got against Melbourne is the same number that Garner and Riddell last got against Melbourne.

While we are trying to work out who is the better judge on players and their performances, let's bring in the coaches.
If you're saying "whichever pair gets more votes is better", then we need only wait a few weeks for when all the top teams have played each other.

For Garner and Riddell to end up with more votes this season, it's likely they're both going to have to be instrumental in wins over at least one of Melbourne or Adelaide.
 
It feels good to never have to wonder about 2020 anymore. We are currently back at the exact same position as we were when that season was about to get cancelled.

6-1, best % and second-best W-L record in the competition. The one loss was by 2 points, a really dodgy performance against the 4th-best team. Yet to play either of the two top threats.

Jasmine Garner has been the best player in AFLW's short history
I agree. **** that aggressive Teen Wolf guy who always shits on her.
 
Bresnehan is on track to be ready for the finals. The question is who do you drop. Has to be Craven or Tripodi, surely? The starting back line is currently Shannon, Ferguson, Kearney, Wright, O'Shea. No names stand out there for dropping.
Bresnehan would come in for craven off hbf who has been playing as an extra defender off the bench
 
Bresnehan is on track to be ready for the finals. The question is who do you drop. Has to be Craven or Tripodi, surely? The starting back line is currently Shannon, Ferguson, Kearney, Wright, O'Shea. No names stand out there for dropping.
Great to see Erika get a coaches vote and make the AFLW team of the week given the strong season she is putting together, and none of them are moving out - but as they and Flash were all in the team until her injury, you’d assume they’ll just revert to the structure and rotations they were using then. Craven was very good on the weekend and Tripodi was again handy (I thought she was running out of steam a bit, but she bounced back), so either would be unlucky.

I love Gav but would like to see Martin stay in for a couple of games at least.
 
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Great to see Erika get a coaches vote and make the AFLW team of the week given the strong season she is putting together, and none of them are moving out - but as they and Flash were all in the team until her injury, you’d assume they’ll just revert to the structure and rotations they were using then. Craven was very good on the weekend and Tripodi was again handy (I thought she was running out of steam a bit, but she bounced back), so either would be unlucky.

I love Gav but would like to see Martin stay in for a couple of games at least.
I was quite impressed by Martin on the weekend even though her stats didn't add up to much.

She was able to get to the right spots and didn't look out of place at all. Considering it was her first ever game of football there was quite a bit to like and it would be good to see her given another chance this week.
 
I was quite impressed by Martin on the weekend even though her stats didn't add up to much.

She was able to get to the right spots and didn't look out of place at all. Considering it was her first ever game of football there was quite a bit to like and it would be good to see her given another chance this week.

A big ask going up against the reigning premier and such an important game. It will be interesting to see how much faith Crock has in her. He certainly doesn't mind giving the big jobs to the Irish girls. Last week, sending Erica O'Shea to the most dangerous Port Adelaide forward for instance.
 
Great to see Erika get a coaches vote and make the AFLW team of the week given the strong season she is putting together, and none of them are moving out - but as they and Flash were all in the team until her injury, you’d assume they’ll just revert to the structure and rotations they were using then. Craven was very good on the weekend and Tripodi was again handy (I thought she was running out of steam a bit, but she bounced back), so either would be unlucky.

I love Gav but would like to see Martin stay in for a couple of games at least.
Gavalas was horribly out of form and a weak link in every passage of play that involved her. I think the game has gone past her unfortunately.
 
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