North Melbourne Priority Pick 2021

[bzparkes]

In what league?

VFA.

 

[Sphynx]

It was worth it for the complete melt Chris Scott

Chris Scott

Age

48

Ht

182cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

had on live TV.

 

[berniemccarthy]

Scotty was the most direct he's ever been on an AFL issue with the North compensation. Threw proper grenades.

Old uncle Ross was doing his best, might have hit up the red fairly heavily before strutting into the fox studio.

C Scott. The ultimate hypocrite.

 

[Tas]

Gold Coast is a completely different proposition to North tho not to mention a extremely challenging location to try and sustain a AFL club.

That isn't what the AFL said as the basis for expanding into the GC.

Brisbane bitched about the same bullshit and once they got a decent coach all of a sudden they were attracting players and not losing nearly as many and they have been a top 4 team for some time.

You have over 100 years of history compared to them, Friday night football was featured involving North in the 90's.

Over 150 years. That doesn't help us in this 5 or so year window of the current side when the AFL gatekeeps what kind of talent we can get in, how much we can spend to develop them, etc.

The Grand Final breakfast is a North Melbourne tradition, you should be a powerhouse in the AFL or at least a top 4 club.

This is an off-field thing, we developed Friday Night football as well when it was unprofitable not to play on the weekend, it didn't help us retain that timeslot and doesn't help us getting young talent.

The comparison is polar opposite.

It isn't.

I have consistently said we don't need assistance and I would prefer it didn't exist. But why should we have to compete against side that get this massive leg up?

People don't even have enough functional neurons to remember Melbourne got an early priority pick for being shit and that wasn't that long ago. People have the memories of a goldfish and the IQ of one as well.

I'd love for us to have a level playing field, but it doesn't exist.

 

[BloodySwan]

The constant merrygoround of coaches in charge of North is what has hurt them the most

 

[Roby]

Sorry was too busy popping the champagne bottles.
He was asked for his thoughts on the North Melbourne request for priority assistance. His reply was along the lines of he won't discuss specific issues of other clubs, however he felt some assistance was justified and that if Hawthorn finished bottom 2 in 4 consecutive years they would certainly be asking for priority assistance.

You just got caught in a lie.

Gowers SEN

Mon, Sep 25, 2023 3:22 AM; Duration: 0:37

otter.ai

He said he would make a representation. He didn't say what that would be.

 

[PhatBoy]

C Scott. The ultimate hypocrite.

Based on?

 

[GoRoos2023]

VFA.

Will our 3 1st round picks help us win it?

 

[Sentinel]

It was worth it for the complete melt Chris Scott had on live TV.

Speaking the truth about North's sad begging does not equate to a melt.

 

[PhatBoy]

Speaking the truth about North's sad begging does not equate to a melt.

‘Melt’ or ‘salty’ are just another way of saying ‘this person didn’t agree with something.’ Its hilarious

 

[tugga]

Brad Scott jettisoned all the older players then the incompetence of not doing due diligence on Rhys Shaw, then hiring a footy manager as coach, hiring the champion data dude as a list manager and giving mega deals to players like polec.
i really feel for fitzroy supporters. They were left high and dry and got shafted by the afl when basketcases like north are allowed to exist.

 

[bigm386]

It doesn't change what has happened. Other clubs were given massive legs up. This is a drop in the ocean compared to that.

Essendon have only had the Leroy Jetta pick i believe.

Carlton (Heavily), Hawthorn, Western Bulldogs, St.kilda, Gold Coast (Enormously), GWS, Richmond, West Coast, Melbourne, Collingwood off the top of my head have all benefited from priority picks as well.

When its North its a problem though isnt it.

All clubs agreed to end the priority system. Including North.

Talking about the old system is laughable may as well bring up how you went in the zoning system.

Reality is North have been far more successful over the last 10 years in terms of finals than a number of clubs. Including Carlton.

North get a handout because you are essentially an AFL charity case. It's that simple.

Westcoast Eagles wouldn't get special consideration. They have members that turn up.

So you can spin it any way you like. The AFL used it's secret herbs and spices to gift you more charity. You are basically the Goldcoast Suns, but at least they can say they are a new club.

The fact the AFL continues to support the rabble that is North Melbourne is simply another reason why the AFL is a bush league run by potatoes.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Wait, are you saying North don't need the assistance because you have a good coach?

We don't have a good coach. We have the best coach of the last 15 years. But he hasn't had much to work with courtesy of decisions from previous management and coaches. Interestingly, the AFL agrees.

 

[Tas]

and what does that have to do with North? absolutely zero

They received assistance on the basis of poor onfield performance and low ladder position over 3 years, it is the same basis for why we get anything. It is WHY we receive assistance, it is very relevant.

Nobody did it out of the goodness of their heart.

North's obsession with what GC have got is bizarre, North having an NGA in Tassie is the outlier

You understand equalisation policy impacts ALL clubs, right? They just didn't want it to be something that could be manipulated, like the old system was where clubs were rewarded for throwing games.

 

[BloodySwan]

Anyone else remember when North pushed out their 4x top goalscorer for a couple picks in the 20s?

 

[Mute Point]

You just got caught in a lie.

Gowers SEN

Mon, Sep 25, 2023 3:22 AM; Duration: 0:37

otter.ai

He said he would make a representation. He didn't say what that would be.

You seriously don't think he is saying they'd ask for one??

 

[boncer34]

C Scott. The ultimate hypocrite.

Blokes won more flags in his time in the league than your club has. Reckon he might know what he's on about.

 

[Roby]

The barracking for it has been pathetic, particularly noting the decisions that have been made at the club.

I always feel that the wisest and sagest voices get drowned out by the loudest morons. There's always the Lord of the Flies Piggues getting killed at cost of common sense.

Unfortunately for North, there are few North supporters like yourself that see what's best for your club.

 

[Outtatym]

Anyone else remember when North pushed out their 4x top goalscorer for a couple picks in the 20s?

If you were going to pick bad list decision examples (there's plenty )this isn't it.
Considering his replacement has made the AA squad and kicked over 150 goals since he left while he languishes in the vfl on decent coin.

 

[hotchilli]

You are stacked. You'll have the third most top 20 pick players in the league on your list.

So if it isn't access to talent that's the problem, clearly either your development completely blows, or your list management team is an utter shambles.

It basically proves that drafts picks aren't the issue with North.

I'd love if we were actually stacked. If we actually were then we wouldn't be in this situation where we are now with a miserable 12 wins in 4 years.

Our development clearly hasn't been good enough but you just have to look at our draft history to see how many mistakes have been made specifically with second round selections that has done the most damage to our list profile. It's left us in the current predicament where our real top end talent are 24 and younger.

 

[Outtatym]

The barracking for it has been pathetic, particularly noting the decisions that have been made at the club.

Amen.

 

[BloodySwan]

If you were going to pick bad list decision examples (there's plenty )this isn't it.
Considering his replacement has made the AA squad and kicked over 150 goals since he left while he languishes in the vfl on decent coin.

Brown went on to win a premiership

Meanwhile North are begging for players. Wouldn't you be in a better spot with Larkey and Brown as your forward pair?

Brown has been injured lately, yet struggles to get into a top 4 side. Would walk into your best 22. Perfect example of poor list management

Push out one of your better players for little in return. I don't see why you need to pick between Larkey and Brown

 

[bzparkes]

I'd love if we were actually stacked. If we actually were then we wouldn't be in this situation where we are now with a miserable 12 wins in 4 years.

Our development clearly hasn't been good enough but you just have to look at our draft history to see how many mistakes have been made specifically with second round selections that has done the most damage to our list profile. It's left us in the current predicament where our real top end talent are 24 and younger.

Plenty of teams make draft mistakes.

Not everyone goes begging tot he AFL 3 years in a row for draft assistance.

How is having your top end talent 24 and under an issue? That's exactly what you want when rebuilding, or would you prefer if your best players were 28+, like WCE were this year?

Clubs shouldn't get compensated because they make dumb mistakes with draft picks, they should get help actually getting a competent administration before anything else.

 

[bzparkes]

‘Melt’ or ‘salty’ are just another way of saying ‘this person didn’t agree with something.’ Its hilarious

And the laughing emoji but when you post that, you've literally got nothing to say to counter an argument.

 

[Tas]

The constant merrygoround of coaches in charge of North is what has hurt them the most

It certainly didn't help. It was fine to let Scott go and go a different path, we just hit an iceberg along the way. Covid hit, Shaw had a mental breakdown, we had too many inexperienced people in key roles. I don't think it would have been as bad had it not been for covid.

Noble set us back a long way, I think our board felt it had to go with the expert opinion after the Shaw thing, it was a shocking call, if not for getting Clarkson in the damage he would have inflicted would have been significantly worse.

I think it was just a perfect storm of the this and covid, we were forced to cut list back, severely reduce development coaches with football department spending forced to be cut by a third from memory. It was impossible to keep enough players to remain competitive and rebuild. I think clubs that had better quality senior players were better able to weather the storm. We played guys well past their prime just to hold on to some decent players for a bit longer.

I think Sheezel is the first recruit we had that hasn't had a significant injury setback in his first year or multiple over consecutive years. These just hold up development. Shit happens and I don't expect any assistance with it. I'd rather see all compromises to the draft end, even father son. If a kid really wants to play for a club his dad did and vice versa then do a trade.