Seriously, even Carlton is selling home games. When the club with the silver spoon up their arse is selling games then anyone pointing a finger at us is just playing with a few cards short of a deck.
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Seriously, even Carlton is selling home games. When the club with the silver spoon up their arse is selling games then anyone pointing a finger at us is just playing with a few cards short of a deck.
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I love the way everyone assumes that we'd lose in Perth and win in Melbourne.
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Yes, under the previous administration we did play one 'home' game at the Gabba year on year for a while.
Let's go through the list... St Kilda sell home games to Carrara, obviously, and the same goes for Richmond and Carlton- the Bulldogs in Darwin (and now this possible selling of games to Adelaide), Hawthorn in Tasmania, North in the ACT and at Carrara in the recent past, and Melbourne at the Gabba.
So that's every Victorian club except Geelong, Collingwood (partly, I think, because they've had the option of Victoria Park up until recently), and Essendon. But I'm not sure whether Essendon and Collingwood might have played home games interstate at some stage or not.
I say lets go back to the start no anzac day specials queens birthday or games in tassie etc. Lets have the top eight play each other twice then the bottom eight once and split the gate proceeds after costs. Lets see collingwood finally get the same or simular draw to everyone else.
Lets put it back on an even playing field and let all clubs survive and the best teams not the ones with the best draw make the finals. JUST A THOUGHT
Lets put it back on an even playing field and let all clubs survive and the best teams not the ones with the best draw make the finals. JUST A THOUGHT
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So when are the 3 bears due home ?
Seriously why not play all the Eagles and Crows' games at home ?
Its win/win right?
Every team will make more playing their away games to these 2 teams than they could at there home ground.
ANd the Eagles and CRows get to win most of their games. All of them if they are any good.I think its a great idea.
Just what the competition needs
FFS North!!!! Think up something better than selling premiership points for money.
Maybe you can throw some finals too. Think about how much they will be worth to a Collingwod or Essendon.
Yes because its not like the Eagles and Dockers don't travel the most? But hey you sit over there in Melbourne Victoria, and have only a couple of interstate trips a year... thats all fine and dandy.... oh and the ONE YOU SELL to Tasmania...
Yet its so bad if the eagles were to spend another game at home? Boo hoo?
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No, 30K is break even. 20K cost $100K, 15K costs $150K. Essentially Docklands is subsidising your low crowds because their revenue drop from 30K to 15K is $500,000, yet only hit you for less than a third of that.
And your simplified example seems to ignore members. Do Docklands get $33 per member ?
But probably the most glaring flaw in your argument is that you expect to have the same cost structure at a state of the art roofed stadium, as a wind blown 70's concrete bowl like Subi, AAMI or even Skilled.
The AFL's "situation", but we all know it wont be fixed to the extent you desire. Its economically impossible.
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The AFL is giving Canberra to West Sydney so there will be no access to that market. Likewise NSW. QLD will not pay any more money out once they have 2 clubs so again, no dice. There's only so much money in Darwin. Certainly not enough to buy 2 or 3 games each from Melbourne, North and the Bulldogs.
THATS BECAUSE YOU"RE BASED IN PERTH. Thats nobody's fault.
If you dont like the travel move your club to the east coast.
BTW Tasmania dont have a team, so theres no home ground advanage being bought.
As long as AFL executives are rewarded with bonuses for rigging draws to maximise attendances, there's no way they are going to agree to revert to any system that denies them said bonuses.
What sort of person salivates over the possible death of a football club?
Nobody's salivating.
But North are fast running out of options. And they've closed the door on their best option which was relocation to the Gold Coast.
When your only option remaining is to sell home ground advantage to opposition clubs you know you are close to deaths door.
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This whole selling games outside Victoria is such a self serving Victorian centric attitude. For some perspective, try picture in your mind what youd think if the NRL continued to do this with Sydney clubs.
If clubs arent viable in Melbourne (for whatever reason), they should only sell games elsewhere as part of a feasibility study to see if a relocation would be possible. They should be given a limited time to decide (say 3 years).
I have no problem with North becoming the third WA team if thats what eventually happens.
If clubs arent viable in Melbourne (for whatever reason), they should only sell games elsewhere as part of a feasibility study to see if a relocation would be possible. They should be given a limited time to decide (say 3 years).
I have no problem with North becoming the third WA team if thats what eventually happens.
Thats not going to happen. Only West Coast will win out of this. They have deep pockets and can afford to buy four premiership points, avoid travel, and give their fans 13 games in Perth.
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how are they "buying" four points???
they actually have to win the game first.
buy ur logic collingwood should win 18 games a year and have no problems in finals as all of these games r played in melbourne
they actually have to win the game first.
buy ur logic collingwood should win 18 games a year and have no problems in finals as all of these games r played in melbourne
how are they "buying" four points???
they actually have to win the game first.
buy ur logic collingwood should win 18 games a year and have no problems in finals as all of these games r played in melbourne
West Coast and Freo won all their home games last year, right?
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how are they "buying" four points???
they actually have to win the game first.
buy ur logic collingwood should win 18 games a year and have no problems in finals as all of these games r played in melbourne
Collingwood dont get 18 home games against interstate clubs.
What if the deal was raised to $1m by Westcoast, but if you ever met WC in a final it had to be played at Subi.
If you dont understand the concept of home ground advantage theres little point in trying to explain it to you
A lot more than they won on the road. When you cant win away the perfect solution is to buy an extra home game. And then when you inevitably improve you'll make top 8 and top 4 more easily.
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Is this your contribution seriously? Congratulations on a well thought out, quality post. It doesn't come accross as a troll at all.
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no i understand it perfectly. although it rekn its way overated in terms of winning. AFL is a professional sport. if you have a fear of travelling or r using the excuse that "oh we lost because we played away" it seems pretty weak.
and on the subject of playing finals. its happened b4 to interstate clubs that they have had to play at the G due to the AFL's contractual obligations even though they should be playing at home.
You're right of course...lets travel some more
I have no problems whatsoever travelling more while Collingwood stay in melbourne...it's a deal
Do you have stats to back that up? Like West Coasts home record vs away?
Or Norths win/loss record in Melbourne vs interstate, eespecially Perth?
No you dont.
Data clearly shows that teams playing at home against an interstate visitor wins a LOT more often than they lose. Especially in Perth.
You're right of course...lets travel some more
I have no problems whatsoever travelling more while Collingwood stay in melbourne...it's a deal
Thats where most of our opponents are.
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