Discussion North Melbourne's home jumper going forward

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The experience at West Coast circa 2000 suggests that can be a bad idea. A very bad idea.
This. If the members get involved, then where does it stop? I can tell you, it stops at Wembley Primary School picking your away strip. You DO NOT want that.
 
You're saying that WCE members voted to ditch the wings in favour of the tri-panel?
Not members of the club, but fans and the general public to an extent. When they moved forward to rebrand in 2000, the club went to Wembley Primary School to gauge popularity in a range of jumpers (be that both a set of home and away jumpers I'm not 100% sure. They definitely selected the ochre out of a range of new away jumpers though).

Moral of the story is although it's a nice gesture by clubs to involve members etc, When it's genuinely left to a public decision you're more likely to get a really generic or poor design, and generally speaking, there's a fix in anyway so the club gets what it wants in those types of "members votes". (See Hawks clash poll for example).

The only genuinely open poll where fans have instated a good looking jumper is Adelaide's yellow clash, and even that gets a shit load of hate on social media, despite the majority on here loving it.
 

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Was wondering why North chose to base Boomers record breaker one off on the blue strip, especially as St Kilda wears a predominantly dark kit. It made it hard to distinguish the two at times, you would think St Kilda would have worn it's away set, unless they were asked not to.
 
The only genuinely open poll where fans have instated a good looking jumper is Adelaide's yellow clash, and even that gets a shit load of hate on social media, despite the majority on here loving it.


I think you're forgetting a recent example a bit closer to home.;)
 
I was at the game, sitting in the St Kilda cheer squad. I can tell you I had a pretty hard time telling the two sides apart at times, especially when they were at the other end of the ground.
I was at the game, suffering from a fair nosebleed (ears were bleeding because of the w***er sitting behind me, too) and had no issues figuring out whether it was a North or Saints player with ball in hand.

The white kit would have been a better way to go, however.
 
Not members of the club, but fans and the general public to an extent. When they moved forward to rebrand in 2000, the club went to Wembley Primary School to gauge popularity in a range of jumpers (be that both a set of home and away jumpers I'm not 100% sure. They definitely selected the ochre out of a range of new away jumpers though).

Moral of the story is although it's a nice gesture by clubs to involve members etc, When it's genuinely left to a public decision you're more likely to get a really generic or poor design, and generally speaking, there's a fix in anyway so the club gets what it wants in those types of "members votes". (See Hawks clash poll for example).

The only genuinely open poll where fans have instated a good looking jumper is Adelaide's yellow clash, and even that gets a shit load of hate on social media, despite the majority on here loving it.

It appears you do not understand the difference between a members only poll and a public poll, which is exactly the problem.
 
It appears you do not understand the difference between a members only poll and a public poll, which is exactly the problem.
I can't imagine members of a club are any better with design taste than general fans of a club. But by all means school me on your POV.
 
I can't imagine members of a club are any better with design taste than general fans of a club. But by all means school me on your POV.
wrong

facebook posting non-membership owning urchins love teal. they love the sbs jumper. bring it back, they say. make the teal jumper our home jumper, they say.
 

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I can't imagine members of a club are any better with design taste than general fans of a club. But by all means school me on your POV.
But you're not just getting general fans of the club, you're also getting supporters of other clubs and the like voting.

I reckon if we're really considering changing the home jumper, bring it to a members vote, usually I'm more than happy for the board to do their thing, but the jumper is the most important thing to a football club, so let the people that identify with it decide on which one we go with.
 
I can't imagine members of a club are any better with design taste than general fans of a club.

It might stretch your brain to "imagine" this but it has nothing to do with "design taste", it is a question of the history of the club and its on-field presentation going forward.

Which of the following groups of people do you honestly think cares the most and is capable of avoiding a bad decison?

1. A bunch of random football fans that visit a club website (open poll)
2. A handful of board members (club decision)
3. Staff at the manufacturers (e.g. BLK)
4. Members (people associated with the club over multiple generations who pay their hard earned to go each week for years on end)

Think about it!
 
It might stretch your brain to "imagine" this but it has nothing to do with "design taste", it is a question of the history of the club and its on-field presentation going forward.

Which of the following groups of people do you honestly think cares the most and is capable of avoiding a bad decison?

1. A bunch of random football fans that visit a club website (open poll)
2. A handful of board members (club decision)
3. Staff at the manufacturers (e.g. BLK)
4. Members (people associated with the club over multiple generations who pay their hard earned to go each week for years on end)

Think about it!
What's with the straight up insult?

I can see your side and I agree with it to an extent. I'm not saying Members are unqualified or shouldn't have a say, but if a club wants input from it's members on something like the clubs jumper, then why show that level of exclusion to non-members who may also follow the club? To me that would send out an "Oh you don't pay us so your opinion isn't valid" kinda vibe. I can't help but see that angle of it and maybe I'm wrong for viewing it that way.

I'm not a full fledged rusted on member of my club, nor am I eligible to be until I'm given a seat, so maybe I'm not seeing this the same way a full member would, and maybe this inability to visualize what you're saying is screwing my opinion.
 
As a full member of Richmond I don't think I get any greater say, or should because I am one of 70k who pay a few hundred.
It's really so I can go into home games and hell, I haven't even used it in years as I'm MCC, I just keep paying it because it's accumulated years and you have to start over so I don't want to lose it.

Tldr, pay membership for a card I don't use because I feel good giving the club money but don't think that entitles me to anything more than your GA game goer
 
As a full member of Richmond I don't think I get any greater say, or should because I am one of 70k who pay a few hundred.
It's really so I can go into home games and hell, I haven't even used it in years as I'm MCC, I just keep paying it because it's accumulated years and you have to start over so I don't want to lose it.

Tldr, pay membership for a card I don't use because I feel good giving the club money but don't think that entitles me to anything more than your GA game goer
Perhaps you should consider demanding more from your club in order to hold it (the board) accountable. No wonder the board has directly allowed the list management to build for a couple of finals appearances rather than a premiership.
 
What's with the straight up insult?

I can see your side and I agree with it to an extent. I'm not saying Members are unqualified or shouldn't have a say, but if a club wants input from it's members on something like the clubs jumper, then why show that level of exclusion to non-members who may also follow the club? To me that would send out an "Oh you don't pay us so your opinion isn't valid" kinda vibe. I can't help but see that angle of it and maybe I'm wrong for viewing it that way.

I'm not a full fledged rusted on member of my club, nor am I eligible to be until I'm given a seat, so maybe I'm not seeing this the same way a full member would, and maybe this inability to visualize what you're saying is screwing my opinion.
Rule of thumb - people with financial commitment to something tend to care about that thing more. I get that some people can't financially commit and are equally aware of intricate things like club history and the importance of particular paraphernalia such as club jumpers but these people are few and far between when it comes to that group of people who identify as supporters but don't pay up.
 
North should use the Pies as their model. Tonight they wore white (their secondary colour) shorts and looked like a light team because of their wide stripes.

If North widen their royal stripes it'll darken their overall strip and make royal shorts the natural match. They can 1) become dark without going to the inverse jumper, so stop being a light team at home, 2) push the away teams into a light strip, 3) get the shorts they want.

So easy. Come on Roos, fat stripes in 2017!
 
North should use the Pies as their model. Tonight they wore white (their secondary colour) shorts and looked like a light team because of their wide stripes.

If North widen their royal stripes it'll darken their overall strip and make royal shorts the natural match. They can 1) become dark without going to the inverse jumper, so stop being a light team at home, 2) push the away teams into a light strip, 3) get the shorts they want.

So easy. Come on Roos, fat stripes in 2017!
The AFL won't see it that way.

It'll still be a white/light jumper with blue stripes and North will still get told to wear white shorts.

Is Carlton going to wear their clash vs North in fat stripes?
 
North should use the Pies as their model. Tonight they wore white (their secondary colour) shorts and looked like a light team because of their wide stripes.
No they didn't they looked like a horrible mismatch who don't even know how to do the sleeves on their longsleeve jumpers right.

They should have been in their white jumper.
 
The AFL won't see it that way.

It'll still be a white/light jumper with blue stripes and North will still get told to wear white shorts.

Is Carlton going to wear their clash vs North in fat stripes?
If North go with wider stripes they'll end up much closer to the Doggies ' pallette. Blues SHOULD wear clash against North in this scenario, but since we don't against Dogs I guess it'd be home with white shorts. ..
 

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