Discussion North Melbourne's home jumper going forward

[Heardy_101]

If North go with wider stripes they'll end up much closer to the Doggies ' pallette. Blues SHOULD wear clash against North in this scenario, but since we don't against Dogs I guess it'd be home with white shorts. ..

It'll end up like Ports Prison Bars vs Carlton's clash. A clusterf**k.

Even if North do widen their stripes, the home jumper will still be classed as a white/light jumper

 

[Gibbsy]

The AFL won't see it that way.

It'll still be a white/light jumper with blue stripes and North will still get told to wear white shorts.

Is Carlton going to wear their clash vs North in fat stripes?

If the AFL see it that way it's probably because of the back rather than the front. What about if North use fat stripes all the way around, a la Hawks late 2000s, and then put a blue number panel on the back? Still a compromise but better than going all blue? I haven't mocked it up so no idea how it'd look

 

[Heardy_101]

If the AFL see it that way it's probably because of the back rather than the front. What about if North use fat stripes all the way around, a la Hawks late 2000s, and then put a blue number panel on the back? Still a compromise but better than going all blue? I haven't mocked it up so no idea how it'd look

Can't see it looking that good but happy to be proven wrong.

Either way North should just suck it up. White shorts does not mean you're the away team and hasn't for some time. The whole white shorts for the away side is archaic and if North want to preserve that instead of moving with the times then they can leave the AFL and join a State league that still has that rule in effect. Geelong don't complain!

 

[Timewaster]

Either way North should just suck it up.

I thought this board was keen on the "home team chooses" principle. Why can't North wear what they want? Geelong is irrelevant

 

[Timewaster]

If the AFL see it that way it's probably because of the back rather than the front. What about if North use fat stripes all the way around, a la Hawks late 2000s, and then put a blue number panel on the back? Still a compromise but better than going all blue? I haven't mocked it up so no idea how it'd look

Side stripes plus fixing the top of the back would also help.
maybe they could follow the Rabbitoh's side panel idea and have blue side stripes for home, white for away.

 

[Heardy_101]

I thought this board was keen on the "home team chooses" principle. Why can't North wear what they want? Geelong is irrelevant

Geelong are also being "forced" into white shorts in home games, so no they're not irrelevant

 

[Heardy_101]

I thought this board was keen on the "home team chooses" principle. Why can't North wear what they want? Geelong is irrelevant

Guernsey and shorts are separate from each other.

 

[Timewaster]

Guernsey and shorts are separate from each other.

Hopefully, or we're in 80s SANFL jumpsuits.

In any case, home strip is home strip, be it guernsey, shorts or socks. Visitors should adjust.

 

[Timewaster]

Geelong are also being "forced" into white shorts in home games, so no they're not irrelevant

Geelong are happy to make the change, there's no force, so not an issue. North have the right to choose whatever they like.

 

[Heardy_101]

Geelong are happy to make the change, there's no force, so not an issue. North have the right to choose whatever they like.

Well then North should be happy to make the change as well. You can't argue that Geelong aren't being "forced" into white shorts at home and North are, or Geelong are happy to make the change and North aren't.

 

[aCunningPlan]

This is why Essendon should be in red shorts away and Richmond in yellow...will allow north to wear their blue shorts more often.

 

[Timewaster]

Well then North should be happy to make the change as well. You can't argue that Geelong aren't being "forced" into white shorts at home and North are, or Geelong are happy to make the change and North aren't.

That's a really weird argument. Geelong saying yes doesn't mean anything beyond Geelong saying yes. Do you think North should agree to everything Geelong does? I can't imagine them enjoying their home games at Kardinia Park.

Home team gets to choose. I'd think a Port fan would understand that more than anyone.

 

[aCunningPlan]

That's a really weird argument. Geelong saying yes doesn't mean anything beyond Geelong saying yes. Do you think North should agree to everything Geelong does? I can't imagine them enjoying their home games at Kardinia Park.

Home team gets to choose. I'd think a Port fan would understand that more than anyone.

Yeah, North choose the jumper. No one gets a choice on the shorts, that's the leagues call. it all comes down to how soft the afl is with certain so called rivalries.

Geelong don't say yes, they just accept what they are told and believe their jumper is sacrosanct and would prefer to fight for their jumper than their shorts. North simply believe their shorts are more important and are more than happy to compromise their jumper to get what they want, which is well within their rights...if they believe their jumper is a play thing.

 

[Heardy_101]

Yeah, North choose the jumper. No one gets a choice on the shorts, that's the leagues call. it all comes down to how soft the afl is with certain so called rivalries.

Geelong don't say yes, they just accept what they are told and believe their jumper is sacrosanct and would prefer to fight for their jumper than their shorts. North simply believe their shorts are more important and are more than happy to compromise their jumper to get what they want, which is well within their rights...if they believe their jumper is a play thing.

This.

 

[Heardy_101]

That's a really weird argument. Geelong saying yes doesn't mean anything beyond Geelong saying yes. Do you think North should agree to everything Geelong does? I can't imagine them enjoying their home games at Kardinia Park.

Home team gets to choose. I'd think a Port fan would understand that more than anyone.

You've completely taken what I've said out of context. Completely.

 

[Timewaster]

You've completely taken what I've said out of context. Completely.

I quoted your whole comment and omitted nothing. Not sure what other context exists.

 

[Heardy_101]

I quoted your whole comment and omitted nothing. Not sure what other context exists.

Because I never said North had to play home games down at Geelong, did I?

Nope!

What I am saying is that both teams have white/light jumpers and usually wear what the AFL classes as "dark" shorts. the AFL has changed the rules so they have to wear white shorts with those jumpers, which looks better aesthetically and it takes away scenarios where we have a light jumpered team with dark shorts vs a dark team with white shorts.

One team (North) ur having tantrums about the modern game and think shorts are more sacrosanct than their premiership jumper while the other (Geelong) are happy to accommodate the new rules.

Maybe it's because Geelong have actually won recent Premierships wearing all white while North haven't.
Either way North need to suck it up.

 

[Timewaster]

takes away scenarios where we have a light jumpered team with dark shorts vs a dark team with white shorts.

Much clearer, thanks.

I see why they've got the rule, but in cases like North's home and Collingwood's clash, if there's enough of the dark colour I think they look great with dark shorts. I understand North's position, we'll see what happens. Adding more blue would be a good move for them in any case.

 

[Red Crow]

You can't necessarily say that Geelong are "happy" to wear white shorts in home games. They could be just begrudgingly accepting it, maybe kicking up a fuss behind the scenes. We don't know.

If the AFL see it that way it's probably because of the back rather than the front. What about if North use fat stripes all the way around, a la Hawks late 2000s, and then put a blue number panel on the back? Still a compromise but better than going all blue? I haven't mocked it up so no idea how it'd look

Absolutely right, its the back that will determine whether its light or dark. Fatter blue stripes would definitely be a step in the right direction, but it won't make the jumper predominately blue. The though of a blue number panel certainly crossed my mind, but I think if you're going to do that, its already becoming a pretty drastic change to the traditional jumper, so you might as well just change to the inverse for a cleaner look.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Yeah I think the width of the stripes is important. I've advocated it aesthetically but here it comes into a good practical idea. I think you could probably make the jumper blue with two big white strips on each chest going down, continuing this on the back, and then with a white number panel. This ABC graphic I found looks majority blue:

And if we're talking a white jumper with blue number panel, let's just use this photo to chuck it together. Get back the Nike and Smokefree, but more importantly get that classic 90s style shield Freo are championing going:

 

[Hank93]

This is what north should be aiming for

 

[MKMatty]

This is what north should be aiming for

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Yep. If they want the premiership jumper they need to widen the blue stripes. On a side note (and for my own curiosity), how would North's white jumper look with blue side panels?

 

[Cody_]

 

[Dylan8]

I was scrolling through Fruit Train's awesome AFL 99 thread again and came across his North idea which is actually quite good

 

[MWPP]

I was scrolling through Fruit Train's awesome AFL 99 thread again and came across his North idea which is actually quite good

Love it aesthetically but I do wonder if the dark at the front /light at the back combo of the away Guernsey would cause clashes with the likes of Geelong, from the front/side views