What the heck? Nova Peris to the AFL

[Ned_Flanders]

Why should she or anyone else not get an allowance or the balance of an allowance just because they own a property that they could use? It is a bit unfair to those who own houses don't you think? If she did not own said house, she would be netting the very generous allowance anyway. If she wanted to, she could have put someone in her house to rent and earned the allowance and rented another property. She could have then negative geared the interest on the mortgage reduced her TI and taken the allowance. In the end the taxpayers may actually end up in a better position! As I said, I don't see a problem with it.

The police in the NT get paid a living allowance despite many owning their own houses.

Because the allowance is designed to subsidise the costs of members staying in Canberra during sitting times when they live elsewhere

If you live in Canberra permanently that is your primary residence so you don't get this additional cost, and therefore are not entitled to the rebate

This has been a rort for years, and many ministers have been embarrassed over its abuse

 

[romeohwho]

I am criticising her utter disdain for the indigenous and non indigenous NT residents who she had the honour to represent by permanently living outside of the NT during her time as a senator. Not for taking advantage of a loophole.

I don't think this claim can be correct because she attends a lot of events, is seen at many causes needing support in the territory. So she has to be in the NT a fair bit of the time for that to be the case. She,like all other fed pollies, had to go to Canberra, a lot. But of course, a federal senator can reside in both places.
ps she gets completely mobbed by the locals, by the indigenous at these events by the way, so she must have some popularity on the ground with her constituents, even if not with some BF posters!

 

[romeohwho]

this is actually something that is monitored and controlled because of rorting in the past

do you see no issue with someone claiming a away from home allowance when their only residence is in canberra?

Its completely legal and lots of our pollies do it. You can chase them all up and tell them you don't like it, but they are allowed to do it.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Its completely legal and lots of our pollies do it. You can chase them all up and tell them you don't like it, but they are allowed to do it.

Actually its prohibited when you only live in Canberra, which is why multiple polis have been humiliated into paying it back when it becomes public

I must say its sad when people defend unethical behaviour because "everyone else does it"

They don't, and all examples should be stamped out - regardless of party, seniority, gender, or race

 

[romeohwho]

Actually its prohibited when you only live in Canberra, which is why multiple polis have been humiliated into paying it back when it becomes public

I must say its sad when people defend unethical behaviour because "everyone else does it"

They don't, and all examples should be stamped out - regardless of party, seniority, gender, or race

Yep, and they don't live 'only in Canberra'. So it is legal.
Am not defending it, I don't like it but you can't simply single Peris out for this. Plenty of them do it.
You and I'd probably do it to in their position, so don't worry too much about the 'moral' high ground.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Yep, and they don't live 'only in Canberra'. So it is legal.
Am not defending it, I don't like it but you can't simply single Peris out for this. Plenty of them do it.
You and I'd probably do it to in their position, so don't worry too much about the 'moral' high ground.

That's the issue here though, she was only living in Canberra

No one is singling her out either, as said three times now, ministers have had to resign over rotting this allowance

 

[romeohwho]

That's the issue here though, she was only living in Canberra

No one is singling her out either, as said three times now, ministers have had to resign over rotting this allowance

How do you know where she lives-I just told you, she is seen all the time in the territory.She obviously lives there quite a lot of the time.
Who has resigned?

 

[Ned_Flanders]

How do you know where she lives-I just told you, she is seen all the time in the territory.She obviously lives there quite a lot of the time.
Who has resigned?

Forget who it was, think it was one of the libs when Howard axed seven.

 

[romeohwho]

Forget who it was, think it was one of the libs when Howard axed seven.

So 20 years ago some minsters resigned who were apparently breaking the law?
The ministers today are not breaking any laws. Until, if or when it becomes illegal you just have to cop it.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

So 20 years ago some minsters resigned who were apparently breaking the law?
The ministers today are not breaking any laws. Until, if or when it becomes illegal you just have to cop it.

Its what I remember while sitting in my physios reception. As I mentioned earlier, most of the time they just demand reimbursement

 

[Kabana]

It's a big word I know. You just can't handle the truth.

Wheres the evidence of misogyny? We've been discussed Nova's performance not her gender.

This is the same approach Gillard took, accused Abbott of misogyny but can't point to any evidence of it. All in an effort to deflect attention away from her performance, which was good enough to get her sacked by her own party in favor of a guy that was previously sacked by his own party.

Or is the ALP misogynist too?

 

[Ok Boomer]

Whoever said shes getting a gig because it kills two birds with one stone (Indigenous, female) is totally correct.

There would be 100's of more qualified indigenous men, but of course the AFL have to appease the PC/feminist groups. Quotas or selection based on gender are the worst.

 

[DERO]

Because the allowance is designed to subsidise the costs of members staying in Canberra during sitting times when they live elsewhere

If you live in Canberra permanently that is your primary residence so you don't get this additional cost, and therefore are not entitled to the rebate

This has been a rort for years, and many ministers have been embarrassed over its abuse

Hypothetical situation:

Just say Wayne Swan lived in an apartment that would generate $450 in rent and Joe Hockey gets $2k a week in allowance to rent a property, in the interests of fairness, would you agree Wayne Sean deserves to receive an allowance?

 

[The_Axeman]

That's the problem with right wing numpties - no imagination. Stick to gnawing on your zillions of conspiracies about the evil world government and all that hatred.

Just waiting for a bit more misogyny. I'm sure you've got an endless supply.

It's a big word I know. You just can't handle the truth.

Name calling, deflection, accusations, no arguments with any substance. You couldn't be more of a stereotypical lefty if you tried.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Hypothetical situation:

Just say Wayne Swan lived in an apartment that would generate $450 in rent and Joe Hockey gets $2k a week in allowance to rent a property, in the interests of fairness, would you agree Wayne Sean deserves to receive an allowance?

only if Wayne Swan has a house in another town/city so he's having to duplicate resources. The point of the allowance is to subsidize an additional cost the poli is wearing as a result of their work in Canberra, not as a cash bonus

We had poli's claiming this who only had a residence in canberra, who were living rent free in canberra, and even some who subleased their property (which totally covered the cost of the original rent)

too often poli's have claimed them when the reason for the allowance is removed.

 

[Collingwoodity]

I see the socialists have picked up their batons and hammered a number of complex unfounded accusations at anyone (even fellow socialists) that don't agree with their line of thinking.

Muddling up the issues by denying facts and leveling accusations of "misogynist" or "racist" at all and sundry justifies their own belief that they are better than everyone else.

Seems about right. Or left.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

Police investigating man allegedly behind racist posts

Investigations are underway into a Central Coast chiropractor, allegedly responsible for posting racist comments on the Facebook page of outgoing Labor Senator Nova Peris.

As my colleague Mary-Louise Vince reports, NSW Police have today confirmed they're investigating what's been widely described as vile comments, allegedly made by Woy Woy-based chiropractor Chris Nelson against the outgoing Senator.

There's been a public outcry against the racist tirade, after the Senator shared it across her social media platforms on Saturday.

An online petition was set-up in response, calling on police to investigate and has so far has attracted more than 6000 signatures.

The NSW Chiropractic Council says it's also aware of the comments and is looking into the matter.

The ABC has approached Mr Nelson, who denies he's responsible. He says his Facebook account was hacked and declined to comment further.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-30/federal-election-live-may-30/7457584

lol "hacked"

 

[Collingwoodity]

Police investigating man allegedly behind racist posts
lol "hacked"

Abhorrent, nonetheless, this has absolutely nothing to do with her (lack of) competency for any AFL position.

 

[indy nile]

It's interesting that this thread has completely failed to discuss what Peris' role at the AFL entails, and precisely why she is suitable/unsuitable for the role.
Instead it's just been a tedious circular political shitfight

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Police investigating man allegedly behind racist posts



lol "hacked"

I love it how they always fall on that one

its easy enough to confirm just by viewing past email/net/downloading history

Good authorities are finally beginning to take this shit more seriously

 

[deltablues]

Just waiting for a bit more misogyny. I'm sure you've got an endless supply.

Yep, and they don't live 'only in Canberra'. So it is legal.
Am not defending it, I don't like it but you can't simply single Peris out for this. Plenty of them do it.
You and I'd probably do it to in their position, so don't worry too much about the 'moral' high ground.

But you are defending it. The "moral high ground" happens to be the law/regulations, introduced so as to avoid fraud/double-dipping.

If you (I speak generally - not you personally) break the law because you think it the "moral high ground" then 1. there will be no rule of law if this mindset is widely adopted; and 2. until that point is reached, you may in due course be in store for an unpleasant surprise.

 

[Satan]

Her first port of call if she joins the Afl is Essendon
http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news...abuse-at-dreamtime-match-20160530-gp7hdl.html

 

[BORK]

Her first port of call if she joins the Afl is Essendon
http://m.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news...abuse-at-dreamtime-match-20160530-gp7hdl.html

Am assuming b#### is black and c#### is campaigners? Why the hell are they abusing the players on the team they support let alone racially abusing them let alone racially abusing them during the indigenous round?

Regarding Peris I am still confused as to how someone who was educated enough to become a Chiropractor is dumb enough to abuse a public figure online let alone have that abuse be of a racial nature. People make you shake your head in disbelief.

 

[Satan]

What? You mean the person asking questions at the 1 hr 12mins mark here doesn't understand just what it is she is talking about?

She has some mates

 

[Westicle]

It's interesting that this thread has completely failed to discuss what Peris' role at the AFL entails, and precisely why she is suitable/unsuitable for the role.
Instead it's just been a tedious circular political shitfight

Unless the role entails getting in a time machine, going back 20 years and running pretty fast we can be pretty confident she is unqualified. Her career since then hasn't had many proud moments.