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adogsfan5 said:
Doncasters starting midfield gone- Spencer (Montmorency), Mahon and Henden (QLD) gone?
Jamar going again?
They’ll have to get recruiting to stay up.
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Didn’t I tell you that a month ago old mate. 😜

The old sporting saying things are never as you think they are or ever as bad as you think they are.

Also lost Campbell Tweedie made Premier Div side of the year - would be 19 years old.

Let’s see where it ends up in a few months time but could be facing a tough season. There will be big numbers coming in - quality?
 
Bobby Beecroft said:
Interesting that 3 high profile EFL players have left for the same NFL club in 2 years.
Must be that beautiful ground attracting them - what else could it possibly be?
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Bunk Moreland said:
Leigh Odermatt from South Belgrave to Chirnside Park.

Zac Hanlon from East Burwood to Vermont.
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Huge loss, another wants to play at a higher level. I will take the positive that it's been many years since other clubs headhunted EB Players. Good Luck to Zac, he is a great tap ruckman and a great pick up for Vermont.
 
eflreceiver said:
Huge loss, another wants to play at a higher level. I will take the positive that it's been many years since other clubs headhunted EB Players. Good Luck to Zac, he is a great tap ruckman and a great pick up for Vermont.
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To those players who go with "I want to play at a higher level", I'd say one thing... I hope you've been in touch with Frankston and Sandringham, those two VFL clubs hold very wide-open trial processes that almost anybody is able to rock up to. That's where you go to play at a higher level. Other standalone VFL clubs offer similar pathways, if you get in touch with them and tell them you've had a very good year at local footy (get your coach to reference it) and want to test yourself at the next level, there's a very good chance you'll get invited down for some sessions. Especially as a ruckman, height is always in demand.

Some other players / coaches / etc around your club have probably been involved at VFL level too, and would be able to assist with contacts.

If they're holding some sort of esteem / prestige in going to play a level higher in local footy, well good luck to you boys... understand though, it's still park footy and nobody is coming to knock down your door to play in the AFL. You'll be in exactly the same position in 12 months.

That's if it really is "higher level", a line that is much easier to go with than "I'm getting paid heaps more so I'm going". Which is also a fair reason to leave, but not so easy to be honest about.
 
Bunk Moreland said:
To those players who go with "I want to play at a higher level", I'd say one thing... I hope you've been in touch with Frankston and Sandringham, those two VFL clubs hold very wide-open trial processes that almost anybody is able to rock up to. That's where you go to play at a higher level. Other standalone VFL clubs offer similar pathways, if you get in touch with them and tell them you've had a very good year at local footy (get your coach to reference it) and want to test yourself at the next level, there's a very good chance you'll get invited down for some sessions. Especially as a ruckman, height is always in demand.

Some other players / coaches / etc around your club have probably been involved at VFL level too, and would be able to assist with contacts.

If they're holding some sort of esteem / prestige in going to play a level higher in local footy, well good luck to you boys... understand though, it's still park footy and nobody is coming to knock down your door to play in the AFL. You'll be in exactly the same position in 12 months.

That's if it really is "higher level", a line that is much easier to go with than "I'm getting paid heaps more so I'm going". Which is also a fair reason to leave, but not so easy to be honest about.
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So so true 😊
 
Bunk Moreland said:
To those players who go with "I want to play at a higher level", I'd say one thing... I hope you've been in touch with Frankston and Sandringham, those two VFL clubs hold very wide-open trial processes that almost anybody is able to rock up to. That's where you go to play at a higher level. Other standalone VFL clubs offer similar pathways, if you get in touch with them and tell them you've had a very good year at local footy (get your coach to reference it) and want to test yourself at the next level, there's a very good chance you'll get invited down for some sessions. Especially as a ruckman, height is always in demand.

Some other players / coaches / etc around your club have probably been involved at VFL level too, and would be able to assist with contacts.

If they're holding some sort of esteem / prestige in going to play a level higher in local footy, well good luck to you boys... understand though, it's still park footy and nobody is coming to knock down your door to play in the AFL. You'll be in exactly the same position in 12 months.

That's if it really is "higher level", a line that is much easier to go with than "I'm getting paid heaps more so I'm going". Which is also a fair reason to leave, but not so easy to be honest about.
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Totally agree and in saying that you are hamstrung if they want out. He signed with EB and then signed with Vermont. You can't hold him to the contract as it's proven time and time again that they are not worth the paper they are printed on. If he's getting paid more good luck to him. I have only ever had two players tell me they are leaving for the money, one was Gileno and the other was young Dipper. I do wish him the best of luck despite all the BS
 
eflreceiver said:
Totally agree and in saying that you are hamstrung if they want out. He signed with EB and then signed with Vermont. You can't hold him to the contract as it's proven time and time again that they are not worth the paper they are printed on. If he's getting paid more good luck to him. I have only ever had two players tell me they are leaving for the money, one was Gileno and the other was young Dipper. I do wish him the best of luck despite all the BS
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It happens. If they wanna go they go. All clubs lose players every year. I would just hope some players don’t actually get sold on “playing at a higher level” in bloody local footy. If you are genuinely driven to play at a higher level then you can certainly get a look-in at a VFL club, at least over pre season.
 

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Skipper sounds like a ripper... wonder if Oakleigh Districts have done their due diligence on all these new recruits



How nine seconds of madness almost killed the Glen Waverley Football Club​

A bet between two teammates set off a chain of events which divided a community, ruined friendships and made headlines around the world. This is the inside story.

Scott Gullan

It was the nine seconds of madness which almost killed a football club.

A bet between Glen Waverley Football Club teammates set off a chain of events which divided a community, ruined friendships and made headlines around the world.

The post season Sunday afternoon celebrations for the Division 3 Eastern Football Netball League team were held at the popular Mountain View Hotel, a sponsor of the club.

There was a dress-up theme and most of the senior playing group and coaching staff were in attendance. As is the way with these events there are always competitions of various nature and as the day went on things started to get out of control.

This escalation included dancing on tables, glasses being smashed while vomit littered the toilets which was enough for hotel management to make a call the following day to Glen Waverley Hawks president Matt Hollard.

He was told either he deals with the issue or they’d call the police. At this stage Hollard wasn’t aware of an even more disturbing incident which would shock and disgust the community.

One particular bet which had been made between two teammates resulted in the loser being forced to perform a sex act on the other. A third player took a video of it and then decided to forward it onto a mate.

It was then uploaded to a Mad Monday page on Facebook which shares the wild and wacky celebrations of football and netball clubs around the country, even offering merchandise.

The Glen Waverley video was only up briefly before the website quickly took it down but that was enough time for it to be copied numerous times.

Soon it began doing the rounds in WhatsApp groups but it wasn’t until a week later that Hollard started hearing rumours of its existence. Within 24 hours it had gone viral, even internationally, and his small suburban football club was under siege.

“We were left in a position of what do we do?” Hollard recalls. “We have to defend the football club here, potentially the players as well, so we put out a media statement.”

The statement said the club was “extremely saddened and disappointed” in the behaviour, describing it as a serious breach of “our culture and values”.

Counselling for those involved and anyone else would be offered but what Hollard wasn’t expecting was the backlash from the players involved and their family and friends.

An emergency meeting which brought together the club’s committee, sponsors, board members from the ENFL and the players involved, including captain Mitch Potts, was called.

The best case scenario was an apology, a commitment to training, counselling and a change in the culture to ensure something like this would never happen again.

Instead Potts led a walk-out of the senior players, accusing the club of not looking after his mental health.

Sponsors, including the Mountain View Hotel, had already started pulling the pin, parents were withdrawing their kids out of the junior programs and when the local council sent a ‘Show Cause’ notice, the president was genuinely concerned about the Hawks’ future.

“It just started unravelling over and over again,” Hollard said. “Players were putting stuff up on social media, letters were coming into the club which contained virtually death threats to the committee.

“We were at the point where we had to go through the process of, ‘Are we going to have a club next year?’.”

With each day another email from a financial backer would land in the club’s inbox, all followed a similar tone.

For example: “In light of recent events that have been in the media and the negative impact it has had, Simple Benchtops is withdrawing its sponsorship of the Glen Waverley Hawks Football Netball club. Please remove all advertising material from display immediately.”

But it was the letter from the City of Monash which rocked the committee. It highlighted clauses in the club’s contract involving inappropriate behaviour and how at any time the council can withdraw the use of a facility.

“Council seeks to understand what action the club will take to ensure that club behaviours align with Council policy to ensure eligibility for future use of Council facilities,” the letter said.

The Hawks home was at Central Reserve, on the corner of Springvale Rd and Waverley Rd in Glen Waverley, which was regarded as a “premier ground” in the competition which meant it was eligible to host junior and senior finals.

These games were the lifeblood of the club with the sales of food and alcohol the key to keeping it viable.

“For a club that is in a very changing demographic with an Indian-Asian population, if we didn’t have those finals the club wouldn’t survive,” Hollard said.

“We don’t have enough numbers for the club to survive by itself. Those finals games basically put a bit of kitty in our bank at the end of each year to move forward.”

Despite sending a reply asking for a meeting with the council to explain how the club was going to deal with the issue, they received another letter which was essentially its death sentence.

They were getting kicked off Central Reserve, shunted down to an inferior ground, Wellington Reserve in Mulgrave, and were also having their liquor licence suspended.

So three months after a bet gone wrong by two of its players, the Glen Waverley Hawks, who were scheduled to celebrate its 50th anniversary in 2023, was on the verge of collapse.

Fortunately in recent days there has been a change of heart from the council after a passionate plea to the mayor and other councillors saw the threat of being kicked off their ground rescinded.

And finally Hollard and his team have been able to look forward. A new coaching panel has been signed with the Hawks looking to have an U/19s team for the first time in almost a decade as well as U/17s who won the flag this year.

They will play in Division 4 after being relegated following just three wins this season and estimate they have lost around 30 players following the video scandal.

Ironically Potts, the Hawks senior coach and his assistant from 2022 plus several key Glen Waverley players have all signed with Oakleigh who will play in Division 3 of the EFNL next year.

For Hollard he is just relieved the club can finally see the light and turn its attention to trying to win its first senior premiership.

“We have been on the back foot for so long, putting out fires and having no control of the situation,” he said.

“That video nearly killed us but we can now say we’re about to launch into a new era with a new culture.”
 
Bunk Moreland said:
You just feel sorry for the committee… volunteers who put in endless time only to have players blow the club up… and then those players walk out to another club. Just incredible selfishness. What happened to putting the club’s interests above any individuals?
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In the article is seemed the Captain put the players "welfare" before the club. But was part of the whole fall down. Interesting legacy to leave the club in
 
The whole group sound like ****wits tbh. Take the video away... for Mad Monday, who goes to a sponsor's pub and trashes the joint? Have your fun boys but you've gotta respect the venue and those that work there. Otherwise have it at the clubrooms or somewhere private and smash the joint to bits.

I wonder how many clubs managed to have a Mad Monday and not wreck a place... tipping plenty.
 
Looks like GW have had their Good Sports Accreditation pulled and replaced by AFL policies and guidelines. A major plank of the Good Sports Accreditation is the club educating their players about the responsible consumption of alcohol. Will they have to begin the process again as it's my understanding that most councils require the Good Sports Accreditation if you want them to assist your club.
 

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