Official Cameron White Thread

[F/D]

Re: Cameron White --> Potential Australian Top 6 batsman?

Yet without him Australia A would have lost every game last summer

Thats a good thing though

 

[Smokey_22]

Re: Cameron White --> Potential Australian Top 6 batsman?

Yet without him Australia A would have lost every game last summer

More than half of those 14,000 posts of yours have rolleyes's in them. Your eyes must be sore?!

 

[Bentleigh]

Re: Cameron White --> Potential Australian Top 6 batsman?

Hahahahaha White is so overated its not unny. I am really surprised that he even makes Australia A

Want to whack up his Australia A stats for me?

 

[Bentleigh]

Dispelling th young Australian spinner Myth & Prodigious Talent that is Cameron White

Cameron White - 102 @ 34.59 
Beu Casson - 65 @ 34.33 
Dan Cullen - 66  @ 34.89

Cameron White - 22 years 149 days
Beu Casson - 23 years 38 days
Dan Cullen - 21 years 279 days

I have often stood in corner of young Cameron when people give him schit for not being a decent leg spinner. 100 wickets afor a 22 year old is a mighty fine effort - period.

Add to this he is tainted with the "cannot spin the ball" brush but more importantly is a batting allrounder added with the above figures and he starts to stack up pretty well.

Whilst I accpet both Cullen and Casson are fine future spinning prospects and are more inclinced at this stage to fight for the future spinner spot in the national teams White in terms of all rounder is a mighty fine prosect.

Respect.

 

[F/D]

Re: Dispelling th young Australian spinner Myth & Prodigious Talent that is Cameron White

Cameron White - 102 @ 34.59 
Beu Casson - 65 @ 34.33 
Dan Cullen - 66   5/38      34.89

Cameron White - 22 years 149 days
Beu Casson - 23 years 38 days
Dan Cullen - 21 years 279 days

I have often stood in corner of young Cameron when people give him schit for not being a decent leg spinner. 100 wickets afor a 22 year old is a mighty fine effort - period.

Add to this he is tainted with the "cannot spin the ball" brush but more importantly is a batting allrounder added with the above figures and he starts to stack up pretty well.

Whilst I accpet both Cullen and Casson are fine future spinning prospects and are more inclinced at this stage to fight for the future spinner spot in the national teams White in terms of all rounder is a mighty fine prosect.

Respect.

Casson and Cullen are better spin bowlers and one of these will get the frontline spinner role. White will never be considered for it.

Will never be one of the best in the world IMO.


Edit: His batting isnt good enough yet too.

 

[YOTC]

Re: Dispelling th young Australian spinner Myth & Prodigious Talent that is Cameron White

Now show the amount of games he has played compared to Casson.

The fact is Casson is only getting better and better, whilst White is hovering around his same usual self.

102 wickets in 44 games is not that great.

 

[Bentleigh]

Re: Dispelling th young Australian spinner Myth & Prodigious Talent that is Cameron White

Now show the amount of games he has played compared to Casson.

The fact is Casson is only getting better and better, whilst White is hovering around his same usual self.

102 wickets in 44 games is not that great.

Like I said you in the other (* http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4483949&postcount=83) thread, the amount of games is an intersting stat. Casson gets 1 more wicket a game than White. Casson is a pure spinner, White is a batting allrounder.

Casson: 65 / 19   = 3.4
White:  102 / 44  = 2.3

Average is the key stat.

Im sure Casson is getting better, I hope he is but you reckon White isn't? White has 100+ wickets in a craft, leg spin which is very hard to master. White will only get better also.

Cullen, only 21 is averaging a tad under 4. Another reason why, at this stage I see his taking over from Warne.

*Please refer to here for my same comments on what you continue to spout.

 

[YOTC]

Re: Dispelling th young Australian spinner Myth & Prodigious Talent that is Cameron White

Like I said you in the other (* http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4483949&postcount=83) thread, the amount of games is an intersting stat. Casson gets 1 more wicket a game than White. Casson is a pure spinner, White is a batting allrounder.

Casson: 65 / 19   = 3.4
White:  102 / 44  = 2.3

Average is the key stat.

Im sure Casson is getting better, I hope he is but you reckon White isn't? White has 100+ wickets in a craft, leg spin which is very hard to master. White will only get better also.

Cullen, only 21 is averaging a tad under 4. Another reason why, at this stage I see his taking over from Warne.

*Please refer to here for my same comments on what you continue to spout.

Whites bowling average this season - 31.62
last season - 39.73
2 season ago - 37.80
3 seasons ago - 25.03
4 seasons ago - 57.85
Debut Season - 34.00

Looks like the young boy has already peaked

Yes i had said his batting had improved though.

And have you seen how much more Cullen bowls than Casson? 500 balls in 2 less matches, if only Casson was so lucky.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Re: Dispelling th young Australian spinner Myth & Prodigious Talent that is Cameron White

Forget White. Australia does have talent in it's spin stocks, both off spin and leg spin. Fear not, a very good young legspinner is on his way, he'll be ready around the time Warnie retires.

 

[Antonius]

Re: Dispelling th young Australian spinner Myth & Prodigious Talent that is Cameron White

Sure, White's stats don't look that bad now, but he is getting worse with his spinners.. He doesn't bowl himself very much an ddoesnt need to.

If White is going to make it, it will be as a batsman. Forget about him as a specialist spinner though, he is a specialist batsman now.

It's the myth that he is a bowler that makes people bag his bowling so much.

 

[Rough_Edges]

Re: Dispelling th young Australian spinner Myth & Prodigious Talent that is Cameron White

Dan Cullen will be the first to play in tests.

 

[SorryIHammerChicken]

Re: Cameron White --> Potential Australian Top 6 batsman?

Hahahahaha White is so overated its not unny. I am really surprised that he even makes Australia A

Perhaps a little but there's no doubt the kid has potential. Same with the hype Moises gets. They may be overrated but they will still be great players.

BTW, 85 with the bat today for White.

 

[eddiesmith]

Re: Cameron White --> Potential Australian Top 6 batsman?

Perhaps a little but there's no doubt the kid has potential. Same with the hype Moises gets. They may be overrated but they will still be great players.

BTW, 85 with the bat today for White.

And 4/23, all top order batsman

 

[jefffff34]

Re: Cameron White --> Potential Australian Top 6 batsman?

Cam White at Aus A level.
8 50 over matches, 296 runs @ 59.20, 3 50s, 1 100, HS: 106* (vs Pak A)
4 wkts @ 44, BB: 2/28

1 20/20 match, 58 runs, 1 50, HS: 58*
1 wkt @ 23, BB: 1/23

 

[SouthSwans]

Re: Cameron White --> Potential Australian Top 6 batsman?

wouldnt put him in the aussie side for his batting

wouldnt put him in the victorian side for his bowling

if you need a batsman, look for a proper pure batsman, IE. D Hussey, M Cosgrove, C Rogers, M North etc etc etc

 

[Crooked Rain]

Re: Cameron White --> Potential Australian Top 6 batsman?

White's bowling is on a par with Muller.

But Muller has a first class average of 23

Does White?

 

[GrayNicolls]

Re: Cameron White --> Potential Australian Top 6 batsman?

he will bat at 5/6/7 for australia within about 3 years

FFS people, the guy can bat and will be in the aussie leadership group one day

and he's a more than handy bowler - suited to one day cricket

 

[SorryIHammerChicken]

Re: Cameron White --> Potential Australian Top 6 batsman?

If you call that solid then you are delusional ...those figures for domestic cricket are very very ordinary

What is going on in Tassie cricket? You don't seem to follow them, just bag Victoria

How's that star Adam Polkinghorne?

 

[Thunderstruck]

Re: Cameron White --> Potential Australian Top 6 batsman?

White is not that flash, he has improved tho will give him that. Great leadership skills tho, thats why he is liked a lot I think.

For now can only see him as a one day player, not a test allrounder. We can do better than that.

 

[Bentleigh]

Re: Cameron White --> Potential Australian Top 6 batsman?

2005-06 ING Cup: 6 games played

Batting: 51.50 @ 85.83
Bowling: 8 @ 25

 

[kosi_23]

Re: Cameron White --> Potential Australian Top 6 batsman?

I really rate him, i think hes gonna be a real prospect for Australia in the coming years.

Hes had a good season so far,

What are his Pura Cup stats for this season? and career?

 

[Bentleigh]

Re: Cameron White --> Potential Australian Top 6 batsman?

wouldnt put him in the aussie side for his batting

wouldnt put him in the victorian side for his bowling

White would make neither the Test or ODI test 11 at the current.

I doubt if White will ever be the Australia #1 spinner (wouldn't it be great if he did become that good?) but I hope he makes that future allround postion his own being a very handy 2nd spinner.

IMO White does have the potential to be a top 6 future test batsman.

if you need a batsman, look for a proper pure batsman, IE. D Hussey, M Cosgrove,

D Hussey is a very good ODI player. Pity he is already 28.

I agree Cosgrove is a smashing prosect. I hope he gets fit and piles on the runs - he will join White in the future Australia 11 (both forms).

C Rogers, M North etc etc etc

2005-06 Pura Cup
CJL Rogers - 36
MJ North - 21

2005-06 ING Cup
CJL Rogers - 36
MJ North - 27

26/28 years of age - I reckon they have missed the boat, White is a much better prospect.

Rogers/North are at best domestic player, both really dropped off the last 24 months. The likes of Voges & Marsh have gone past them.

 

[Bentleigh]

Re: Cameron White --> Potential Australian Top 6 batsman?

But Muller has a first class average of 23

Does White?

The "Muller averaged 23" argument is moronic. Because he had a good average it means others with higher averages won't be better?

White is not that flash, he has improved tho will give him that. Great leadership skills tho, thats why he is liked a lot I think.

For now can only see him as a one day player, not a test allrounder. We can do better than that.

Yes, he is that flash.

He is 22 years of age - of course he will inprove, every aspect of his game. His leadership & will to win are class.

He is a decent, inproving bowler and whilst his stats don't yet show it those that watch him understand his batting abilty.

For now I agree he is better suited to the ODI Australian side. Again - he is 22. When he is 25/28 years of age will he be worth a spot in the test side? I hope so. IMO the abilty is there.

I really rate him, i think hes gonna be a real prospect for Australia in the coming years.

Hes had a good season so far,

What are his Pura Cup stats for this season?

2005-06 Pura Cup: 5 matches
batting: 33.12 @ 55.43
bowling: 12 @ 27.16

and career?

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/australia/content/player/8291.html

 

[kosi_23]

Re: Cameron White --> Potential Australian Top 6 batsman?

Cheers Mate

 

[Bentleigh]

Re: Dispelling th young Australian spinner Myth & Prodigious Talent that is Cameron White

Cameron White - 102 @ 34.59 
Beu Casson - 65 @ 34.33 
Dan Cullen - 66  @ 34.89

Update:

Cameron White - 106 @ 33.98
Dan Cullen - 66 @ 34.89
Beau Casson - 67 @ 36.08