List Mgmt. OFFICIAL: Zac Smith traded for picks 49 and 53

[GHS33]

So now our first pick in the draft is p67? Yikes.

 

[WaxiesDargle]

Bargain.
I don't mind it (going further down the order this year by trading 49 & 53, rather than 2016 3rd off Brisbane).
There might only be around 60 (or even less) live picks this draft so seeing as how speculative picks are from the 3rd onwards, there is probably not much difference having 49, 53 60 and 84..... or picks 60,61,62,63....
Wells will obviously have a list of players around that mark and will take whoever is left. Hopefully at least a couple of them can make the grade.
I'm glad we were able to hang onto that 2016 3rd round which we can use in a stronger draft.

 

[cats_09]

What happened to using the proceeds from the Walker/Jansen trades?

Going further down the order with so many list vacancies is a strange move.

Bundling all our late picks for one higher up the draft

 

[CatRiot]

Now, we just need 3rd round picks or better each for Walker and Jansen. Two picks not one!

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

What happened to using the proceeds from the Walker/Jansen trades?

Going further down the order with so many list vacancies is a strange move.

How many times do we have to tell you that you can't trade other future picks if you trade your 1st round future pick for the next season before you believe it

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-06/future-trading-given-goahead-but-with-restrictions

If a club trades a future first-round selection, it may not trade any other future selection from that same draft.

 

[cats2rise]

One pick will upgrade Luxford I'd assume?

 

[fpm84]

How many times do we have to tell you that you can't trade other future picks if you trade your 1st round future pick for the next season before you believe it

There's nothing in the rules to suggest that you can't ontrade another club's future pick.

 

[Boxhead_31]

How many times do we have to tell you that you can't trade other future picks if you trade your 1st round future pick for the next season before you believe it

But if you bring in future picks from other clubs you can trade those picks

 

[CatsDoItBetter]

That's a pretty good trade to late picks for a young very promising ruck.
Although I don't like the walker and Jansen deal. Keeping that pick gives us another decent pick in a better draft. Obviously we won't have a round 1 pick next year but we will have round 2 and two round 3 picks.

 

[Seeds]

Bargain.
I don't mind it (going further down the order this year by trading 49 & 53, rather than 2016 3rd off Brisbane).
There might only be around 60 (or even less) live picks this draft so seeing as how speculative picks are from the 3rd onwards, there is probably not much difference having 49, 53 60 and 84..... or picks 60,61,62,63....
Wells will obviously have a list of players around that mark and will take whoever is left. Hopefully at least a couple of them can make the grade.
I'm glad we were able to hang onto that 2016 3rd round which we can use in a stronger draft.

Um our third rounder next year would be around pick 50. So you would rather give up two pick 50s this year then 1 pick 50 next?

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

Now, we just need 3rd round picks or better each for Walker and Jansen. Two picks not one!

The Walker/Jensen deal is done. We got a future 3rd round pick for 2016, which we can't trade or use until the 2016 trade period.

 

[cats2rise]

Wen may get a compo pick for SJ too? Although that certainly would not be a high pick.

 

[catempire]

How many times do we have to tell you that you can't trade other future picks if you trade your 1st round future pick for the next season before you believe it

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-06/future-trading-given-goahead-but-with-restrictions

This is ambiguous. I would be astounded if the rule was you can't on-trade a pick received from another club. The rule exists to stop clubs trading their own picks.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

There's nothing in the rules to suggest that you can't ontrade another club's future pick.

Once we accept the pick it becomes OUR PICK, so we can't trade it.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

This is ambiguous. I would be astounded if the rule was you can't on-trade a pick received from another club. The rule exists to stop clubs trading their own picks.

OK, believe what you want. Peace out.

 

[vinum coupe]

ATTENTION WELLS:

In case you haven't noticed, we will need as many as 6 live picks in the draft. Consequently, trading our first 2 picks in this year's draft for Smith is sheer lunacy when we can trade our 2016 third round.

In fact, we should be inquiring about Gold Coast's (or should have for Brisbane's) later picks which neither GC or Brisbane will even use!

You are a master at picking diamonds in the draft. You get trades done with little fuss. But you are a poor, poor negotiator when it comes to extracting full value. I'm not saying become Essendon, but perhaps it would have been worth inquiring about Gold Coast's/Brisbane's garbage that they wont use, as it would be treasure for us. Instead, it looks like we are giving our treasure to GC, to which GC won't even use and throw out as garbage themselves.

Having 6 picks beyond 60 VS 6 picks from 40 is quite different. Most if not all clubs would end up with the latter if they were in our situation. We are a good club, but lets be a good club that also makes smarter trades with better negotiation.

And I think you're completely wrong.

We have far more chance of finding 1 good player with 6 picks in the 60's than 1 pick at 40.
The fact is, we just got in 4 players with talent.

 

[MoggsCreek]

I'm thinking this trade period by Geelong will be looked at even more favourably in a few years. We'll be looking through the 2015 list of players drafted on wikipedia thinking 'Gee, apart from pick 9 we only had to give up all these nobodies'.

 

[Boxhead_31]

The Walker/Jensen deal is done. We got a future 3rd round pick for 2016, which we can't trade or use until the 2016 trade period.

The aFL rule is about trading your own future draft picks if you trade a future 1st rounder, if you bring in a pick that originated with another club a club is free to on trade that pick, just not their own future picks

 

[thegerman]

Yeah, nice

Check out GeelongCats's Tweet:

 

[strauchnyy]

Has the Jansen/Walker paperwork gone through?

Has it been confirmed we are receiving a 2016 3rd?

If not - I think it's imperative that we seek a couple later picks in this year's draft from Brisbane. They will have many picks they don't intend to use.

 

[catman54]

Lets give the club credit, doesn't matter what the cost has been. They went after four players and landed all four, I'm looking forward to 2016 now!

 

[GHS33]

Wen may get a compo pick for SJ too? Although that certainly would not be a high pick.

We dont get compo for SJ.

 

[fpm84]

The flow on effect for this deal is huge.

Stanley can play his preferred role of second ruckman who can float forward. I expect him to average at least a goal a game next season.

Blicavs can now be a full time midfielder, with Smith and Stanley handling duties in the ruck.

Fantastic.

 

[GHS33]

The flow on effect for this deal is huge.

Stanley can play his preferred role of second ruckman who can float forward. I expect him to average at least a goal a game next season.

Blicavs can now be a full time midfielder, with Smith and Stanley handling duties in the ruck.

Fantastic.

Provided we have a fit list.

 

[cats2rise]

The flow on effect for this deal is huge.

Stanley can play his preferred role of second ruckman who can float forward. I expect him to average at least a goal a game next season.

Blicavs can now be a full time midfielder, with Smith and Stanley handling duties in the ruck.

Fantastic.

Assuming they are all fit.

I expect Blicavs to be our number 1 ruckman by Round 12, interchanging with Vardy... until he is injured and Taylor pinch hits in the ruck.

Lucky we got Hendo.