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Jen2310 said:
Richmond has delisted forward duo Noah Cumberland and Matthew Coulthard.

The pair were informed of the club’s decision that they wouldn’t be offered contracts for the 2025 season on Wednesday.

Richmond also confirmed on Wednesday that they have recommitted to Category B rookie Mate Colina for the 2025 season. The ruckman will be re-listed following next month’s drafts.

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Tigers delist pair of forwards and recommit to Category B rookie

“We wish them well for their future endeavours.”
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The OOC players in the 18 clubs is down to around 25 players including ours
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Is the journo doing what we all do - just calling this Colina bloke Mate because he can't remember his name?
 

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Home game in Perth - crikey

A partnership with towns like Bendigo and Shepparton in regional
Victoria is the way to go long term… will gain more supporter base in Northern Victoria than in Perth

At least they try to have a crack at a second market… don’t want to be in the red every year

The saints just sitting on their underachieving butt in Morrabbin waiting for their yearly oversized AFL hand out
 
whiskeytown said:
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Home game in Perth - crikey

A partnership with towns like Bendigo and Shepparton in regional
Victoria is the way to go long term… will gain more supporter base in Northern Victoria than in Perth

At least they try to have a crack at a second market… don’t want to be in the red every year

The saints just sitting on their underachieving butt in Morrabbin waiting for their yearly oversized AFL hand out
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I don’t understand why playing games in Perth would be any better than continuing to play games in Tassie?

Because Devils will be a one team state, they’ll be normally scheduled to play 11 minimum H&A games in Tassie.

Other non-Vic teams play min 12 H&A games in their home state.

So the AFL will likely be looking for a Vic team to play a home game in Tassie - why wouldn’t it be North? And allow them to build on the work they’ve already invested?
 

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This is a bit disappointing. Fly told him they didnt have time to develop him.

Forward or back?
Liam McMahon has played at both ends of the ground and after his 2024 VFL season for Carlton, he can give an emphatic answer to the question of his best position.

On performance and preference, he’s a forward. He more enjoys slotting goals than stopping them.

The former Collingwood senior-lister booted 45 for the Blues this year, putting him in contention for a second chance at the AFL.

Making his season the more commendable, the 197cm right-footer missed two matches with suspension and played for a team that won only four games. When it came to doing forward-50 business for the Blues, McMahon was a sole trader.

“At the start of the year there was talk about me starting in defence,’’ the 22-year-old tells CODE Sports.

“Then we realised there was probably a need for some height and aerial ability forward of the footy, so I had a chat with Luke (Carlton coach Luke Power) and we narrowed it down and I went and played forward. I guess it all clicked.’’

Forward or back?
Liam McMahon has played at both ends of the ground and after his 2024 VFL season for Carlton, he can give an emphatic answer to the question of his best position.

On performance and preference, he’s a forward. He more enjoys slotting goals than stopping them.

The former Collingwood senior-lister booted 45 for the Blues this year, putting him in contention for a second chance at the AFL.

Making his season the more commendable, the 197cm right-footer missed two matches with suspension and played for a team that won only four games. When it came to doing forward-50 business for the Blues, McMahon was a sole trader.

“At the start of the year there was talk about me starting in defence,’’ the 22-year-old tells CODE Sports.

“Then we realised there was probably a need for some height and aerial ability forward of the footy, so I had a chat with Luke (Carlton coach Luke Power) and we narrowed it down and I went and played forward. I guess it all clicked.’’


Collingwood drafted McMahon – as a forward – from the Northern Knights in 2020. He was a little surprised, because the Pies spoke to him only once during the season.

With the Under 18 competition not going ahead because of Covid, they went on his performances in 2019, when they thought he came on strongly as a bottom-ager with his marking and athleticism.

“Coming out of Covid and not being able to play in my top-age year, I didn’t get that whole experience of having a draft year, doing all the representative games and stuff like that,’’ McMahon says.

“I had one conversation with them (Collingwood) and that was around April and I got drafted in December. They weren’t really on the radar.’’

He thought he was going to Port Adelaide. But the Pies plucked him at No. 31 with their fifth selection, seeing possibilities in his attacking prowess.

McMahon had only the half-season of the VFL in 2021 to play there. With Craig McRae taking over from Nathan Buckley, a change of coach brought a change of positions for the second-year tall.

“He (McRae) said, “We see you as a defender, so we’re going to switch you’,’’ McMahon says.
He played 19 VFL games in 2022, averaging 15.4 possessions, but was delisted at season’s end.

“It came as a little bit of a shock,’’ he says. “My first year was Covid-interrupted and I only played six games in the VFL. In my second year I was learning a brand new position and was going quite well and I had some good feedback from the coaches. I was getting some players’ player awards.

“So I thought I was progressing quite well. And then I walked into ‘Fly’s’ (McRae) office after they lost the prelim to Sydney and he said, ‘We’re closer to a flag than we thought, we don’t have the time to develop you at the moment, we’re going to go with some experienced players in this window and unfortunately we don’t have a list spot for you’.

“It wasn’t that I wasn’t good enough. They wanted some mature bodies to win a flag. They got it the next year but I feel I was spat out a little bit early.’’

McMahon says he cannot complain about his experience with the Magpies.

He did not play a senior game. But he did train with the likes of Scott Pendlebury, Darcy Moore and Brodie Grundy.

“I didn’t fulfil AFL level but I still l learned so much from legends of the game, so many names that are going to go down in history that I was able to rub shoulders with.

“I’ve got lifelong friends there in Reef McInnes, Findlay McRae, Beau McCreery. The boys I was drafted with are all pretty tight and we like to catch up every now and then. So absolutely, I’m very grateful for my time at Collingwood.’’

Let go at 20 and believing his best was to come, McMahon set out for the VFL and Carlton. He credits Power with giving him confidence and letting him use his strengths.

LIAM MCMAHON'S 2024 VFL SEASON​

GAMES 16
GOALS 45
BEHINDS 15
SCORE INVOLVEMENTS (average) 5.7
MARKS (average) 5
DISPOSALS (average) 10
FORWARD-50 MARKS (average) 2.8
GOALS ACCURACY (average) 70.3 per cent

“I think playing forward shows my athletic ability, my aerial capacity and my kicking,’’ he says. “They’re the three things I pride myself on. I can jump at the footy and then if it hits the ground I’m quite agile for someone my size, I can move, I can run, I’m fast … and most times when I get the footy, I’m scoring.’’

That said, he’s comfortable playing as a key defender: “A couple of times this year Luke looked to me to sit a kick behind the play and read it and intercept the footy for us.’’

The way McMahon sees it, he’s far more equipped now to play in the AFL than when he was drafted. With two years in the AFL at Collingwood and two in the VFL at Carlton, he feels he’s done an apprenticeship in senior football and “I’m qualified in what it takes to play at the level’’.

“I’m a 10-times better footballer now than when I was at the back-end of Collingwood. I’m way more mature, I’m ready, I’m wanting to attack another opportunity with both hands. Hopefully a club will take a punt on someone who’s determined and so hungry.’’

Carlton VFL senior assistant Tom Langford on Liam McMahon​

“He’s had four years to develop his craft. I often talk about a three to four-year cycle for player development and how crucial that timeframe is. Very rarely do we see players bypass that. Those that do are often the elite of the elite, go straight in and get to work at a high level.

“Liam at 6’6 … the talls naturally take a bit longer … he’s got a taste of it in an AFL program at Collingwood and he’s progressed to be a standout player and develop as a leader in our VFL progra
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76woodenspooners said:
I don’t understand why playing games in Perth would be any better than continuing to play games in Tassie?

Because Devils will be a one team state, they’ll be normally scheduled to play 11 minimum H&A games in Tassie.

Other non-Vic teams play min 12 H&A games in their home state.

So the AFL will likely be looking for a Vic team to play a home game in Tassie - why wouldn’t it be North? And allow them to build on the work they’ve already invested?
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they were selling games to Tassie, Tassie gov isn’t going to buy them with the devils entering the comp. It wasn’t about growing their brand so much as needing the cash injection, so now they’re looking to sell them elsewhere.
 
Jen2310 said:
This is a bit disappointing. Fly told him they didnt have time to develop him.


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Extremely disappointing if true. Instead we are burning mid season draft picks on guys like begg and josh eyre. Can't be picking up free agents forever either, actually need to develop some talls who play exclusively forward, not half assed swingmen and ruck/forwards
 
localfootylegend23 said:
Extremely disappointing if true. Instead we are burning mid season draft picks on guys like begg and josh eyre. Can't be picking up free agents forever either, actually need to develop some talls who play exclusively forward, not half assed swingmen and ruck/forwards
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We need AFL capable Talls. Not this bloke
 
stormskye said:
We need AFL capable Talls. Not this bloke
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The idea is you develop him into one? not making reckless list management decisions that will leave us up ships creek without a paddle later on when checkers/mcstay retire. Bloke kicked 50 odd goals in a side that won four games for the year @ 22 years old, definitely some potential there.
 
Jen2310 said:
This is a bit disappointing. Fly told him they didnt have time to develop him.


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Can't imagine a delisted player would ever be anything but 100% honest about the reasons behind it...
 
stormskye said:
We need AFL capable Talls. Not this bloke
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McMahon looked woeful in his first year but was a mistake cutting him after two but persevering with Begg instead… but Begg was Cat B rookie

The club will take 3x third round picks to the draft and probably draft another 3 kids that get delisted after two years 🤷‍♂️

Ultimately it’s the stupidity of the list system… bigger rookie lists would mean the pies probably would’ve hung on to McMahon or an Eyre etc a bit longer
 
whiskeytown said:
McMahon looked woeful in his first year but was a mistake cutting him after two but persevering with Begg instead… but Begg was Cat B rookie

The club will take 3x third round picks to the draft and probably draft another 3 kids that get delisted after two years 🤷‍♂️

Ultimately it’s the stupidity of the list system… bigger rookie lists would mean the pies probably would’ve hung on to McMahon or an Eyre etc a bit longer
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The AFL should increase the rookie list to 8 and enhance the VFL at the same time. Gives more kids with talent a chance to develop
 

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