Oppo Camp Other Games Rolling Thread (2023)

[legendstatus]

Yeo and allan both off. Could prove costly now

All part of the - well that wasn’t too bad but still lost

As bad as we’ve been we aren’t the Dogs who some in the media think have the best list in the AFL

 

[No SPIN]

The inevitable consequence of this botched decision is that Goal Umpires will be even more cautious and defer to Video Review more often.
So I think we can expect many interruptions during finals games, given the stakes are so high.

 

[legendstatus]

You know dogs will get up

 

[Jasper84]

Yeah, let's change the rules to cover for incompetence.... Tail wagging the dog.
That is not the answer. The current rules are what makes our game so great, and different to all other sports.

The answer is to make the correct decisions and adopt the technology that other sports use to assist. Microchips in balls, Cricket's review system with snicko and ball tracking, Tennis's computer line decisions, Motor sports super slow motion video, etc. There is plenty. Just costs money.
We are a billion dollar sport, and don't use anything more that a Super-8 camera for videos, and a reel-to-reel tape recorder for noise capture.
Get better AFL!!
I don't want Collingwood to lose a another GF now that we have the technology..


(....goes away and curls up in the corner of the room trembling....Wayne Harmes, Rocca..)

A rule that says a ball grazing a post is a behind does nothing to make the game great. Though I agree with you in that it separates our sport from others in that it makes a billion dollar industry look amateurish, confusing to casual observers and sometimes devastating to a club's results. The rule change doesn't cover for incompetence, it removes ambiguity. There's no guarantee that throwing money at it going to fix the issue anyway as the updated cameras and snicko may still miss it

It's like the umpire bouncing the ball issue, where the purists both complained about the uniqueness of the game being ruined and also about bad bounces favouring the opposition. They changed the bounce rule and I would hazard a guess that not one person, turned away from the game as a result.

Only in this case, your recommendation would be that we put laser guided gyroscopes in the balls to compensate for the bad umpire bounce instead of just doing away with the antiquated mode of getting the ball in the air.

If you change the rule to allow the ball hitting the post but still going over the goal line to be a goal, the problem from last night is solved. No wasted money, no shade thrown at umpires. The game is improved and we all move on.

 

[Kes1984]

So if doggies somehow lose this, ess still have something to play for next week lol

bet they’ll not care about that as much as just beating us anyway.

 

[Kes1984]

Melbourne are not as good as their press would have you believe.

They’re giving Carlton a sniff at top 4

 

[Kes1984]

Are Hawthorn the best ever 16th placed side?

 

[stormskye]

Melbourne are not as good as their press would have you believe.

They’re giving Carlton a sniff at top 4

No top team is as good as many in here say. Our season is done but all These other top teams are flying apparently.

Add to that hawks best mid Newcombe was pulled right before the game.

 

[legendstatus]

Norf jumping for joy!

 

[stormskye]

I bet Harley Reid is enjoying this game

 

[Sweeetleftfoot]

A rule that says a ball grazing a post is a behind does nothing to make the game great. Though I agree with you in that it separates our sport from others in that it makes a billion dollar industry look amateurish, confusing to casual observers and sometimes devastating to a club's results. The rule change doesn't cover for incompetence, it removes ambiguity. There's no guarantee that throwing money at it going to fix the issue anyway as the updated cameras and snicko may still miss it

It's like the umpire bouncing the ball issue, where the purists both complained about the uniqueness of the game being ruined and also about bad bounces favouring the opposition. They changed the bounce rule and I would hazard a guess that not one person, turned away from the game as a result.

Only in this case, your recommendation would be that we put laser guided gyroscopes in the balls to compensate for the bad umpire bounce instead of just doing away with the antiquated mode of getting the ball in the air.

If you change the rule to allow the ball hitting the post but still going over the goal line to be a goal, the problem from last night is solved. No wasted money, no shade thrown at umpires. The game is improved and we all move on.

Or the umpire could just call for a review, given the stakes and the point of time it’s disgraceful it wasn’t reviewed. The whole reason the system is there and the one time it’s needed the most, they don’t use it.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Eagles reverse tanking. Don’t want the Harley Reid dilemma so dropping back to pick 2 instead

Haha, I thought similar. They're saying 'we'll show you Harley, we don't want you either'

 

[sr36]

No, they don’t. In cricket, the review system is the final decision. Sometimes the decisions are not what one side of the crowd thinks, but we all move on and accept the decision. The players do as well. But the decisions are correct, and supported by technology.
Have a look at the recent decisions in the Ashes test for the catches by Starc and by Stokes.
The penalties given in soccer after the refs missed them.
The offsides given after the Linesman missed it when a goal was scored.
Many, many instances. It has made the decisions easier to accept, not harder. And yes, they are “more” perfect. That’s what we should strive for.
Not autocracy by humans..

Let me know when we're at the point that we can review the gamut of AFL umpire decisions without interrupting the game and you'll get my vote. But I'm not a fan of the current silliness where we review whether a kick was touched off the boot when it's a direct goal but not when it results in a mark that leads to a goal.

 

[Kes1984]

Norf jumping for joy!

They look like they’ve won the tanking wars!!

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

I bet Harley Reid is enjoying this game

Poor kid will be too scared to like any posts about this match

 

[Sweeetleftfoot]

North to name 23 debutants next week

 

[stormskye]

Ain’t no way north will try and win next week. Why would you. One win to avoid a spoon or get the best player who could win flags for you.

 

[Sweeetleftfoot]

That’s absolute Greg Norman levels of bed shitting.

 

[sr36]

Ain’t no way north will try and win next week. Why would you. One win to avoid a spoon or get the best player who could win flags for you.

You could have said the same about WCE this week though.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Hudson's commentary is a bit over the top isn't it?

 

[YouBeauty]

Carlton 4th would be a dream result for us but don't think it will happen.

 

[thommo_legend]

Does Bont poll a vote?

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

You need a lot better resolution than that. Have a look how much it costs to run DRS in a cricket match.

But 1080/120 would still be tangibly better than what we have now

 

[eyeroller]

And people complained about our loss lol

There really is no excuse for the Doggies not to be better?

 

[stormskye]

You could have said the same about WCE this week though.

Perhaps, but with all media it def appears that Reid would be bruhn 2.0. Then again, eagles may have looked to just split pick 1.