Outlook Rocky: he likes an expensive Tawny

[a mayes ing]

Look at the way we played this year to last year. I don't think leppa would've had any more success with the list Voss had

Not a fan of Leppa but still, the amount of injuries last year when compared to this year would have played a part as well.

 

[countryVicLion]

Few problems with that. Cameron is unhappy. Not specifically with the Crows, but with life in Adelaide. We tell him we want to rip off his club, leave him unhappy for a year, tell him he's not worth a reasonable pick, and hope he'll still want to join us next year...

Doesn’t add up to pick 19 this years draft was off rookie list pick 7 in 2013, we are throwing too much at Crows to get him. He is more like 28, he would be like 19th on Adelaide’s player list does that add up to value?
I want him but he isn’t close to a Stringer who will be around a similar draft pick the way you are thinking.
Yes he is unhappy and has a brother coming through but what I am saying is don’t just give in to demands we have to wait back a bit until after Lever Trade goes through and see what it all looks like. I would want a pick 30-40 back for Cameron from the potential 19.


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[Dalions]

Rockcliff is at the pub again today. He said definitely going. No surprises there.

In other good news Claye Beams is getting married today.


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So did you ask if the offer was enough to net us pick 2?

 

[lions2010]

Doesn’t add up to pick 19 this years draft was off rookie list pick 7 in 2013, we are throwing too much at Crows to get him. He is more like 28, he would be like 19th on Adelaide’s player list does that add up to value?
I want him but he isn’t close to a Stringer who will be around a similar draft pick the way you are thinking.
Yes he is unhappy and has a brother coming through but what I am saying is don’t just give in to demands we have to wait back a bit until after Lever Trade goes through and see what it all looks like. I would want a pick 30-40 back for Cameron from the potential 19.


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Lions will trade 18 to GWS for 23 and 25, and use 23 for Cameron and 25 for Ballendon. Easy done. Adelaide may play hard ball but that will be the result. Lions still will have 1, 12 and 19.

 

[Scubaveg]

So did you ask if the offer was enough to net us pick 2?

Na. Was there spending any time with my old man.


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[POBT]

Lions will trade 18 to GWS for 23 and 25, and use 23 for Cameron and 25 for Ballendon. Easy done. Adelaide may play hard ball but that will be the result. Lions still will have 1, 12 and 19.

Is that actual knowledge? You sound very confident.

 

[M Malice]

Lions will trade 18 to GWS for 23 and 25, and use 23 for Cameron and 25 for Ballendon. Easy done. Adelaide may play hard ball but that will be the result. Lions still will have 1, 12 and 19.

A spanner in the works- Ballenden is bid on before pick 19.

 

[bhys16]

A spanner in the works- Ballenden is bid on before pick 19.

exactly, all of these scenarios still need to make it through trade week and then live bidding on draft night.. no chance we use our current exact picks.

 

[M Malice]

exactly, all of these scenarios still need to make it through trade week and then live bidding on draft night.. no chance we use our current exact picks.

I don't think there is any live bidding this year, IIRC it comes in next year, briztoon or dlanod would know for sure.

 

[bhys16]

I don't think there is any live bidding this year, IIRC it comes in next year, briztoon or dlanod would know for sure.

on f/s and academy it is always live bidding in a way..

 

[countryVicLion]

I don't think there is any live bidding this year, IIRC it comes in next year, briztoon or dlanod would know for sure.

It is next year


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[briztoon]

Apologies for the intrusion if it is unwelcome.
I think it is both reasons - you are getting an A-grade list together, I just think that when in peaks in 3-4 years, Tom may no longer be best 22 and would miss out on that opportunity for success.
He may have the chance to have an immediate impact with a mature squad and he might be able to achieve some team success that he hasn’t already.
All big ‘ifs’, but worth a shot?

Also, Adelaide is cheap compared to the East Coast and more money plus lower expenses could help a young family?

Good luck with your compo pick - I hope you get a cracker to continue your list development

Our kids probably don't peak for another 7 or 8 years.

They'll only just be entering thier prime in 3 or 4 years.

 

[briztoon]

I don't think there is any live bidding this year, IIRC it comes in next year, briztoon or dlanod would know for sure.

Wondering if you guys are confusing Live Trading, with Live Bidding on academy and f/s prospects.

 

[dlanod]

I can't remember when Voss and Leppa were coaching

I drink to forget too.

 

[Dalions]

I can't remember when Voss and Leppa were coaching

Its probably best you don't!

 

[jackess]

 

[ZoBlitz]

I don't know, I still remember 2009.

 

[Dodongo]

Dodongo thinks you are all dreaming if you think Bellanden won't get bid on before pick 18/19. Dodongo thinks it's obvious that Richmond will bid on him like they have everyone else of our academy talls.

 

[M Malice]

Dodongo thinks you are all dreaming if you think Bellanden won't get bid on before pick 18/19. Dodongo thinks it's obvious that Richmond will bid on him like they have everyone else of our academy talls.

I've been saying this for months Dodongo, you have just confirmed it officially. Take it to the bank.

 

[Dalions]

Dodongo thinks you are all dreaming if you think Bellanden won't get bid on before pick 18/19. Dodongo thinks it's obvious that Richmond will bid on him like they have everyone else of our academy talls.

Nothing surer!

 

[briztoon]

Ballenden did interview with Richmond at the combine. Reportedly lasted less than 3 minutes.

That included the walk in and back out.

 

[Nunez]

Ballenden did interview with Richmond at the combine. Reportedly lasted less than 3 minutes.

That included the walk in and back out.

"Hi Conor, would you like to live in Melbourne?"

"To be honest, not really. Maroon, Blue and gold runs through my blood"

"Oh...nevermind"

 

[jackess]

Ballenden did interview with Richmond at the combine. Reportedly lasted less than 3 minutes.

That included the walk in and back out.

He probably shouldn’t have walked in wearing full Lions gear.

 

[braddsey]

I don’t like the fact that Rockliff has moved on from both sides.

What pisses me off about Rockliff the most was that he was remunerated way above what he should have been given we had to expend our salary cap, yet when he is offered a salary commensurate with where he is at currently, balanced against being heavily remunerated in the past, he is still greedy enough that he can’t repay what the club previously invested in him.

No loyalty whatsoever from Rockliff and I regret the club not having got rid of him earlier given it was all about money for the greedy Rockliff.

It's not Rocky's fault he was paid so highly previously - that's entirely the clubs fault. Rocky was the benefactor andyou can't begrudge him that. It's not like we lost any players or there were players we couldn't bring in because of his salary, and arguably he's been more entitled to the higher pay packet than many others when you consider we have to pay 95% of the cap.
To call him greedy for leaving now because another club values him more highly than we do is immature. That's a reality in the business world.

Personally I think he's well within his rights to move. No doubt he and the club have been through hell and back over the past year's. I hope he moves onto Port (though I wish it was almost any other club, well except collingwood or ease don't!) and maintains fitness and refinds his AA form. He's given enough to the lions and owes us nothing.

 

[bungalow_bill]

He probably shouldn’t have walked in wearing full Lions gear.

And a "Richmond suck" badge