
FishingRick04
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Not the only time I was scoffed at but yeah. Thanks for bringing back the memoriesI’m always reminded of the time he scoffed at Rick in that committee meeting(?) at 11-4 in 2018.
How’d that end up, ya clown.
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Not the only time I was scoffed at but yeah. Thanks for bringing back the memoriesI’m always reminded of the time he scoffed at Rick in that committee meeting(?) at 11-4 in 2018.
How’d that end up, ya clown.
We have very little debt now (apparently) and yet they still won't do it.2021 extension mate. Signed for 2 years prior to the start of the 2021 season. The Board only wanted to do 1 year, Richo pushed for 2, seemingly as a sign of the HC and CEO being in lockstep given Richo was a new CEO.
My own theory is that the Board have gotten themselves in a quagmire with Hinkley's contract and so are content with remaining competitive without being a realistic flag chance, whilst strengthening their financial situation (reduction of debt, increasing assets etc).
I personally wonder whether Ken would have been sacked whilst contracted had the Club been stronger financially (for instance with very little to no debt on the books). Impossible to know either way though.
Richo is a capable operator on the business side of things - but he's another one who has a significant say in the football operations of the Club whilst having zero actual football experience.
The Board extended him on the sole reason of the footy committee's recommendation which was based on their 13 win streak. Nothing else. Not even the director of coaching Rob Mason was consulted by the committee with regards to the extension either which just seems totally bizarre on the face of it. In fact, prior to the extension there was a Board meeting where the directors were prepared to sack him soon after that untenable Showdown loss in round 3.
I don't think he has nearly as much support as he's had in previous years. But I'll extend that by saying if there's no succession plan announced by round 1, all bets are off and this shitshow could well and truly continue for years to come.
An external review is meaningless if the powers involved aren't willing to implement the changes advised from said review.
I am not an advocate for an external review, but rather I'm an advocate for the Club bringing in half a dozen of its well known former players spanning across the 80s, 90s and 00s who have had the ultimate success as players (and as part of the Club) and then gone on to forge successful post playing careers. These people 1) know what it takes to be successful in a variety of circumstances both as individuals and as a team, and 2) they understand what it means to represent the Port Adelaide Football Club.
There's a clear disconnect between the current regime and the legends of years past, and I don't believe that to be simply a case of generational change.
We are all just pathetic. From Koch and richo to ken to us fans.
We are all a collective of "White Noise Bastards" - WNB's according to the Club.Us fans are bastards of the highest order.
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Dude. It's a football team.We WNB's are the Ukrainians fighting for our lives, trying to keep our heads above water, and the club a winner, opposed to the Club administration, which represents the Putinesque infidels, hell bent on making using their unlimited power to keep us all subservient to their will
If the club agrees to an external review, would mean they are starting to take winning a premiership seriously, regardless of who conducts it.
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We are all a collective of "White Noise Bastards" - WNB's according to the Club.
We WNB's are the Ukrainians fighting for our lives, trying to keep our heads above water, and the club a winner, opposed to the Club administration, which represents the Putinesque infidels, hell bent on making using their unlimited power to keep us all subservient to their will (even if they have demonstrably shown time and again that they are unwilling, or unable, to run things professionally or successfully).
They are the "We Know Greatness Best" tribe - WKGB's so shut up and do as they say, ya nuffies!
I understand your position, I just don't think an external review is necessary.
This is not a case whereby the team is an absolute basket case performing at 2011 levels of ineptitude. In the last 5 years they've made top 4 four times and made three preliminary finals. I'm not trying to say that everything is hunky dory because it isn't, but the platform they can work from is already one where a lot of the fundamental needs are in place.
And imo the problems that exist are there for anyone to see. I can't imagine the directors of the Club need an external review to see that in multiple big games in the regular season and then in finals, the team as a collective shits the bed. And I don't think it takes an external review to realise that Ken is a major part of fostering the "close enough is good enough" culture that ensues these results in big games.
Doesn’t a review include coaches, fitness & skills ? Cause that’s where we’re lacking.
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The assistant coaching roles and their relative input is all dependant on the senior coach. I personally don't see any major issues with the high performance team with respect to getting the players to an acceptable level of fitness. Skills are a major issue but again that lies with the senior coach who holds a view where he accepts more skill errors at the expense of playing a faster brand of footy.
Getting rid of Hinkley won't necessarily mean that they'll be guaranteed to fix the issues that need fixing. But what it will mean is that the issues will now have an opportunity to get fixed - because we all know nothing is going to change under Ken.
The high performance team need to be shot out of cannon if they’re responsible for the undersized players we have, it’s like they’ve been told to stay lean. Meanwhile other teams steam roll us with their big bodies come finals.
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I understand your position, I just don't think an external review is necessary.
This is not a case whereby the team is an absolute basket case performing at 2011 levels of ineptitude. In the last 5 years they've made top 4 four times and made three preliminary finals. I'm not trying to say that everything is hunky dory because it isn't, but the platform they can work from is already one where a lot of the fundamental needs are in place.
That's not a product of the high performance team but rather a product of the body archetypes they've drafted imo.
And I don't buy into the notion that it is solely body size that is responsible for the players getting physically overwhelmed in finals. The same players have won plenty of games in the home and away season against top competition. Players like Ollie Wines for instance don't produce a BOG performance going up against Libba and Bont at Etihad stadium and then look beyond pedestrian against them a few weeks later in the finals. It's more mental than physical at that point.
Players like Rozee and Butters are never going to be hulks of men, and quite frankly I can't think of any player off the top of my head whose body was meant to fill out only for the player to stay lean like a beanpole.
Finals are a different ball game, more intense, way more physical. Na, we’re probably the wimpiest top 4 team. That blended with clueless coach, sees us straight sets exit from finals. They need to bulk up, that’s if Hinkley allows it. It’s like he’s moulding the players in the image of his race dogs, ru, run, run.
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This is exactly why an external review would help. We do have a lot of things going for us and yet we've gotten smashed in 5 of our last 6 finals by an average of 9 goals. We've got fans who are fed up and we're about to go into another ugly year where the club and fans are adversarial.
We have enormous issues that the current staff don't know how to address. They badly need a fresh set of eyes to look at what they're doing, but they certainly aren't interested in hiring someone from the outside.
You're right that an external review isn't necessary, but it's not necessary because everyone who has been at the club for more than 3 years needs to be moved on. Given they aren't capable of figuring that out on their own, an external review would be perfect.
But as we've said, they'd never commission one and they'd never listen to it's recommendations if they did.
That's not a product of the high performance team but rather a product of the body archetypes they've drafted imo.
And I don't buy into the notion that it is solely body size that is responsible for the players getting physically overwhelmed in finals. The same players have won plenty of games in the home and away season against top competition. Players like Ollie Wines for instance don't produce a BOG performance going up against Libba and Bont at Etihad stadium and then look beyond pedestrian against them a few weeks later in the finals. It's more mental than physical at that point.
Players like Rozee and Butters are never going to be hulks of men, and quite frankly I can't think of any player off the top of my head whose body was meant to fill out only for the player to stay lean like a beanpole.
I assume the apostrophe there is replacing the word "was", rather than "is"?Dude. It's a football team.
JHF was noticeably more muscular in his first year at North than he has been at Port.
Rozee has also lost weight in the past 2 seasons.
Having people in charge who are aware of the issues but are unwilling to act is the best case you could make for an external review. They sure as shit aren't going to self-actualise and do something about it themselves.If I thought for a minute that the people in charge weren't aware of the issues, then I'd be fully supportive of an external review.
I asked his favourite jeweller and he's definitely added more carats over the last few years.JHF is arguably the club's strongest pound for pound player - and if you look at his physique when he first arrived at the club (October 2022) till now, he's definitely put a bit of size on.
Rozee has always been lean, but I wouldn't go as far to say he's lost weight over the last 2 years. I look at photos of him from 2022 and he looks thinner then than he does now imo.