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The Passenger said:
At 20 he has still got a lot of time on his side. Has a pretty stressful action, but I don't think it's well beyond what some other guys have. He rotates hard through the crease but you need that if you want to bowl quick.

They are probably bringing him back a bit too early, or not assessing him properly through the period leading into his games. Doesn't seem right to me that he can get through numerous (i think it was 50-plus) net sessions with minimal problems and then straight away within his first couple of games finds himself injured. Yes, the intensity in a game will go up, but those final net sessions should be pretty intense.

Frustrating, but not much can be done but just keep the rehad up, keep working, and a bit of hope.
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Having suffered from similar back injuries, I would have to assume Cummins is being managed terribly. He's being rushed back for sure.
 

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Drugs Are Bad Mackay? said:
Jason Gillespie went through a similar problem early in his career and went through a bunch of modifications. He hated them and thought they made him bowl shit. Said to his coaches something like, "Mate, I don't want to be safe. I want to play test cricket for Australia." In the end he pretty much didn't change his action any great degree but did an enormous amount of work on his fitness, core strength, flexibility, managed workloads etc.
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Jimmy Anderson supposedly similar. He goes ok now.
 
Not a star yet. Has to prove himself in the Shield before selection.

People are getting ahead of themselves. He is 20 years old and has hardly played for 2 years!
 
1990crow said:
Having suffered from similar back injuries, I would have to assume Cummins is being managed terribly. He's being rushed back for sure.
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Cummins could always bowl quick - but anyone who bowls 150 kph+ is always going to breakdown at some point.

Many years ago CA introduced bowling restrictions fro young players to limit the amount of bowling they did due to the risks of young bodies and predominantly backs breaking down through rsi or other problems. I recall promoting a youngster to the topm flight of our senior competition and bowling him for 11 overs straight. Nowadays it's disallowed.

Cummins was limited to six over spells up until he hit first class cricket and with all the NSW quicks injured or on Aussie duty he bowled something like 42 in the first innings of the shield final - cue first breakdown.

As part of his rehab - I am told they suggested he get into the gym and build up - if you look at Cummins he's all fast twitch fibres - pretty lean and the pace is generated from his not so biomechanically sound action - hindsight and logic might suggest that telling him to hit the gym was a mistake - he goes to SA gets MOM in his sole test breaks down and has fundamentally never been right since.

There have been a number of poor manangement decisions the whole way along which when compounded get us to where he is now and that's a massive ? whether he ever remotely gets close to playing test cricket again.
 
1990crow said:
Wrong. Anyone who can bowl 150k with the skill he has is already a star.
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agree

and gaining experience, by playing, is the only way he will achieve his potential
 

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