Recommitted Patrick Cripps [Re-Signed to 2027]

Remove this Banner Ad

La Dispute said:
Can’t see it happening personally.

He isn’t from Perth, and WA isn’t the kind of place you want to spend your 20’s and 30’s. He’s also not lacking for adulation or status in Melbourne.

Perhaps he will head back to Northampton at some stage, but it won’t happen until his career is over IMO.
Click to expand...

Why? To say this as someone who presumably isn’t from here is rather presumptuous, and, if you are, then I wonder why you would say this.

I myself have been to Melbourne multiple times and hardly see the appeal of it. All I see is a massive city with far too many people, a place where you can hardly breath and don’t have any space. Arguably, I’d say that, given the fact he’s from Northampton, he would prefer the relative smaller scale of Perth to Melbourne.

Perth has pretty much everything Melbourne has, just without the absurd amount of people. He’d also be just as idolised here as he is in Melbourne (as if that would be a concern for him, unless you’re saying he’s vain).

And a tiny fact you seem to be forgetting is that his family is over here. That by itself already gives WA leverage over anything Melbourne offers.

Now I’m not saying that’ll he’ll come home or whatever, but this comment is more than a little unfair.
 
CM9000 said:
Why? To say this as someone who presumably isn’t from here is rather presumptuous, and, if you are, then I wonder why you would say this.

I myself have been to Melbourne multiple times and hardly see the appeal of it. All I see is a massive city with far too many people, a place where you can hardly breath and don’t have any space. Arguably, I’d say that, given the fact he’s from Northampton, he would prefer the relative smaller scale of Perth to Melbourne.

Perth has pretty much everything Melbourne has, just without the absurd amount of people. He’d also be just as idolised here as he is in Melbourne (as if that would be a concern for him, unless you’re saying he’s vain).

And a tiny fact you seem to be forgetting is that his family is over here. That by itself already gives WA leverage over anything Melbourne offers.

Now I’m not saying that’ll he’ll come home or whatever, but this comment is more than a little unfair.
Click to expand...

We're not talking about Tokyo or Beijing - we're talking about a carefully mapped out city which is reasonably large and spread out with more than a number of micro-cities, both in regional areas an in the inner suburbs, surrounding it.

There's also nothing suggesting he likes living in larger spaces, and being a boarder he's more used to living out of home than in Northampton anyway.

Not sure the family card is as big a pull as you are suggesting. He can always return once his career is over, and it's not as though he's used to being around them having left home at an early age. His best mates live in Melbourne, and as far as anyone is aware he considers Melbourne his home.

Crippa is also an extraverted guy, with more than a huge network of friends and connections he has built up over a number of years after becoming the club's marquee star from an early age. Just doesn't scream 'will return to WA' to me.

Perth is a nice place for a holiday, but not where you want to be at your professional peak. Unless there is a major disparity between where Carlton, Fremantle and West Coast finish I'd be very surprised if he left.
 

Log in to remove this ad.

CM9000 said:
Why? To say this as someone who presumably isn’t from here is rather presumptuous, and, if you are, then I wonder why you would say this.

I myself have been to Melbourne multiple times and hardly see the appeal of it. All I see is a massive city with far too many people, a place where you can hardly breath and don’t have any space. Arguably, I’d say that, given the fact he’s from Northampton, he would prefer the relative smaller scale of Perth to Melbourne.

Perth has pretty much everything Melbourne has, just without the absurd amount of people. He’d also be just as idolised here as he is in Melbourne (as if that would be a concern for him, unless you’re saying he’s vain).

And a tiny fact you seem to be forgetting is that his family is over here. That by itself already gives WA leverage over anything Melbourne offers.

Now I’m not saying that’ll he’ll come home or whatever, but this comment is more than a little unfair.
Click to expand...

As someone who has spent a lot of time in Perth - originally from there as a kid - and Melbourne, there is a key difference. Perth is a beautiful place and you are right it has most of the things Melbourne has. But Perth does not change at any speed, so if you are a younger person you can go to all of the the places in Perth and they are great, but once you have done them that is it. Melbourne changes constantly.

I am not bagging Perth, would happily retire there but that is the main difference - speed and frequency of change.
 
CM9000 said:
Why? To say this as someone who presumably isn’t from here is rather presumptuous, and, if you are, then I wonder why you would say this.

I myself have been to Melbourne multiple times and hardly see the appeal of it. All I see is a massive city with far too many people, a place where you can hardly breath and don’t have any space. Arguably, I’d say that, given the fact he’s from Northampton, he would prefer the relative smaller scale of Perth to Melbourne.

Perth has pretty much everything Melbourne has, just without the absurd amount of people. He’d also be just as idolised here as he is in Melbourne (as if that would be a concern for him, unless you’re saying he’s vain).

And a tiny fact you seem to be forgetting is that his family is over here. That by itself already gives WA leverage over anything Melbourne offers.

Now I’m not saying that’ll he’ll come home or whatever, but this comment is more than a little unfair.
Click to expand...

As someone from Geraldton who still has family over there I can safely say I'll never return to live in the west. Still visit every year though.

And Perth is a shithole. To compare Melbourne with Perth is laughable. Full of god-botherers and rednecks.
 
La Dispute said:
We're not talking about Tokyo or Beijing - we're talking about a carefully mapped out city which is reasonably large and spread out with more than a number of micro-cities, both in regional areas an in the inner suburbs, surrounding it.

There's also nothing suggesting he likes living in larger spaces, and being a boarder he's more used to living out of home than in Northampton anyway.

Not sure the family card is as big a pull as you are suggesting. He can always return once his career is over, and it's not as though he's used to being around them having left home at an early age. His best mates live in Melbourne, and as far as anyone is aware he considers Melbourne his home.

Crippa is also an extraverted guy, with more than a huge network of friends and connections he has built up over a number of years after becoming the club's marquee star from an early age. Just doesn't scream 'will return to WA' to me.

Perth is a nice place for a holiday, but not where you want to be at your professional peak. Unless there is a major disparity between where Carlton, Fremantle and West Coast finish I'd be very surprised if he left.
Click to expand...

The disparity I experienced between Melbourne and Perth was quite massive, at least in my opinion. And yes, it may not be as big as New York or Tokyo, but those two cities are besides the point - we’re talking about a place where he would permanently live, not a holiday desination he might go to once in his life.

And he still did live in Northampton for more years of his life than he has in Melbourne, and living there for 7 years doesn’t just erase that. I don’t know how his life in terms of personal relations since living in Melbourne has changed, and whether he now considers Vic home, but I’m simply noting that, usually, people from the country don’t like large cities, and Melbourne is certainly bigger than Perth.

This is all ignoring the fact that his girlfriend has severe OCD, and as someone who is familiar with that condition (a sibling has it), it might prove to be a factor in a hypothetical decision he might make to go home.

In regards to his “professional peak”, it wouldn’t really matter where he played - he’d still be getting payed massively everywhere, and it is arguable that Carlton will be ahead of either Fremantle or West Coast at the beginning of 2022.

The 747 said:
As someone who has spent a lot of time in Perth - originally from there as a kid - and Melbourne, there is a key difference. Perth is a beautiful place and you are right it has most of the things Melbourne has. But Perth does not change at any speed, so if you are a younger person you can go to all of the the places in Perth and they are great, but once you have done them that is it. Melbourne changes constantly.

I am not bagging Perth, would happily retire there but that is the main difference - speed and frequency of change.
Click to expand...

That, at least, in my opinion, wouldn’t be the deciding factor. I think you might be overstating that a bit. Although, I can’t really say that for certain, since I have no clue as to the character of Cripps.

Brutalitops said:
As someone from Geraldton who still has family over there I can safely say I'll never return to live in the west. Still visit every year though.

And Perth is a shithole. To compare Melbourne with Perth is laughable. Full of god-botherers and rednecks.
Click to expand...

That is more a reflection of the people you associate with than Perth as a whole.
 
Kreuuuzeurns said:
Pretty sure contracts have been negotiated with % increases/decreases based on what’s happening with the cap over the next few years.

But in any case, why would we move Cripps out the door on the cheap in that situation? We’d be moving others out to meet his demands. I understand you want a guy like Cripps for peanuts but that is fantasy stuff.

If he goes it won’t be for money and we will be well compensated.
Click to expand...

Firstly in the event Cripps requested a trade I suggest there would be a very good reason why. A personal reason as he seems very loyal and committed to the club and has delivered in spades on and off the field. So neither party would be moving on anyone.

Agreed Carlton would be well compensated. Its the how that we dont agree.

I also fear Cripps and his body are a massive risk and given the Eagles list profile I would much rather hit the draft with our three picks in the first two rounds next year. The 1st round we must use in 2021.
 
Obeanie1 said:
Firstly in the event Cripps requested a trade I suggest there would be a very good reason why. A personal reason as he seems very loyal and committed to the club and has delivered in spades on and off the field. So neither party would be moving on anyone.

Agreed Carlton would be well compensated. Its the how that we dont agree.

I also fear Cripps and his body are a massive risk and given the Eagles list profile I would much rather hit the draft with our three picks in the first two rounds next year. The 1st round we must use in 2021.
Click to expand...

That’s fair enough. I understand the reasons Cripps may leave and they’re very real but it doesn’t mean we’d be giving him away on the cheap, especially for other players. We certainly have money and years sacrificed for any potential increases he may need, though he’s probably already on almost what he could expect. It would be negligent if it was any other way.
 
CM9000 said:
That is more a reflection of the people you associate with than Perth as a whole.
Click to expand...

Mate, they sell cowboy boots and hats unironically in the CBD. Place couldn't be more Texas if it tried.

And youve practically written a novella on why Northampton is such a special place for Cripps without even knowing him. Im from Gero. Care to address my points?

Maybe after he moved to Melbourne he realised just how ****ing weird it is to put carrots on hamburgers and cant live in a place where such atrocities exist.
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

CM9000 said:
Why? To say this as someone who presumably isn’t from here is rather presumptuous, and, if you are, then I wonder why you would say this.

I myself have been to Melbourne multiple times and hardly see the appeal of it. All I see is a massive city with far too many people, a place where you can hardly breath and don’t have any space. Arguably, I’d say that, given the fact he’s from Northampton, he would prefer the relative smaller scale of Perth to Melbourne.

Perth has pretty much everything Melbourne has, just without the absurd amount of people. He’d also be just as idolised here as he is in Melbourne (as if that would be a concern for him, unless you’re saying he’s vain).

And a tiny fact you seem to be forgetting is that his family is over here. That by itself already gives WA leverage over anything Melbourne offers.

Now I’m not saying that’ll he’ll come home or whatever, but this comment is more than a little unfair.
Click to expand...
Lol can hardly breath.
 
CM9000 said:
The disparity I experienced between Melbourne and Perth was quite massive, at least in my opinion. And yes, it may not be as big as New York or Tokyo, but those two cities are besides the point - we’re talking about a place where he would permanently live, not a holiday desination he might go to once in his life.

And he still did live in Northampton for more years of his life than he has in Melbourne, and living there for 7 years doesn’t just erase that. I don’t know how his life in terms of personal relations since living in Melbourne has changed, and whether he now considers Vic home, but I’m simply noting that, usually, people from the country don’t like large cities, and Melbourne is certainly bigger than Perth.

This is all ignoring the fact that his girlfriend has severe OCD, and as someone who is familiar with that condition (a sibling has it), it might prove to be a factor in a hypothetical decision he might make to go home.

In regards to his “professional peak”, it wouldn’t really matter where he played - he’d still be getting payed massively everywhere, and it is arguable that Carlton will be ahead of either Fremantle or West Coast at the beginning of 2022.
Click to expand...

We can talk in an endless loop of what Crippa likes or doesn't like, but he hasn't lived in Northhampton since his mid teens and only briefly lived in Perth to attend school. It's not at though he's rusted on.

Plenty of changes occur in a span of a decade, and given we're throwing out anecdotes I myself moved from country Victoria to the city and wouldn't dream of going back. Not everyone wants the slower pace of life, and once you're used to and enjoy a set of circumstances there's not any great push to change. As the face of the CFC, and our best player since his 2nd year I couldn't see Cripps want to downsize his life for the last few years of his career.

Cripps' partners OCD would actually be more of a cause to stay given how reluctant sufferers are to make wholesale changes. I'd actually hazard a guess this would be a major reason why Cripps would want to stay in Melbourne, and not muddy Monique's recovery by uprooting their current life and lifestyle.

I just don't think WA has the appeal to players that you think it does. Plenty of decent and semi-decent players from WA have decided to actually move to Melbourne after being drafted elsewhere (T. Mitchell, O'Meara, Martin, M. McGovern, [Aish originally]). Some will inevitably return, but in comparison to players who remain in larger cities across the east coast - including current Melbourne-based players - the difference is negligible.

It's also irrelevant how the teams sit at the beginning of 2022. Cripps will be making a decision on which team he sees as the most likely or equal most likely to win a premiership through the duration of his career. But my point with his preference is the same as above - most players want to play in bigger cities while they are at the peak of their powers. We've both acknowledged he will be paid well (albeit not as well at West Coast), so there's going to need to be some serious distinction in finishing position next year to sway Cripps to move.
 
Last edited:
La Dispute said:
I just don't think WA has the appeal to players that you think it does. Plenty of decent and semi-decent players from WA have decided to actually move to Melbourne after being drafted elsewhere (T. Mitchell, O'Meara, Martin, M. McGovern, [Aish originally]). Some will inevitably return, but in comparison to players who remain in larger cities across the east coast - including current Melbourne-based players - the difference is negligible.
Click to expand...

Objection!
 
The 747 said:
Objection!
Click to expand...

That's why I added that qualifier.

McGovern was a gun at Adelaide, but it hasn't clicked at all at Carlton for him, partly due to his own objectionable training standards and our inability to find a role for him.

He might still come good as a dynamic third tall, but I'm not holding my breath after two shocking seasons.
 
Brutalitops said:
Mate, they sell cowboy boots and hats unironically in the CBD. Place couldn't be more Texas if it tried.

And youve practically written a novella on why Northampton is such a special place for Cripps without even knowing him. Im from Gero. Care to address my points?

Maybe after he moved to Melbourne he realised just how ******* weird it is to put carrots on hamburgers and cant live in a place where such atrocities exist.
Click to expand...

Cool, I’ve never actually seen that stuff before. If you assume that it isn’t in Melbourne in even greater numbers, I don’t know what to say.

La Dispute said:
We can talk in an endless loop of what Crippa likes or doesn't like, but he hasn't lived in Northhampton since his mid teens and only briefly lived in Perth to attend school. It's not at though he's rusted on.

Plenty of changes occur in a span of a decade, and given we're throwing out anecdotes I myself moved from country Victoria to the city and wouldn't dream of going back. Not everyone wants the slower pace of life, and once you're used to and enjoy a set of circumstances there's not any great push to change. As the face of the CFC, and our best player since his 2nd year I couldn't see Cripps want to downsize his life for the last few years of his career.

Cripps' partners OCD would actually be more of a cause to stay given how reluctant sufferers are to make wholesale changes. I'd actually hazard a guess this would be a major reason why Cripps would want to stay in Melbourne, and not muddy Monique's recovery by uprooting their current life and lifestyle.

I just don't think WA has the appeal to players that you think it does. Plenty of decent and semi-decent players from WA have decided to actually move to Melbourne after being drafted elsewhere (T. Mitchell, O'Meara, Martin, M. McGovern, [Aish originally]). Some will inevitably return, but in comparison to players who remain in larger cities across the east coast - including current Melbourne-based players - the difference is negligible.

It's also irrelevant how the teams sit at the beginning of 2022. Cripps will be making a decision on which team he sees as the most likely or equal most likely to win a premiership through the duration of his career. But my point with his preference is the same as above - most players want to play in bigger cities while they are at the peak of their powers. We've both acknowledged he will be paid well (albeit not as well at West Coast), so there's going to need to be some serious distinction in finishing position next year to sway Cripps to move.
Click to expand...

I can only say what Cripps might do based on what I know of him. Given I’m not a Carlton fan, you’ve probably observed him in greater detail than I ever have, but you’re still making some pretty big assumptions on someone you don’t even know. Nevertheless, it doesn’t ultimately matter.

I think you need to actually visit Perth, if you haven’t already. It’s pretty presumptuous to say that the difference is negligible, since it actually isn’t, and you’re frankly ignoring all the players that have returned to Perth (look at Fremantle).

And with OCD, Cripps girlfriend would probably do better in the place she is actually from, with her family, rather than a city where there’s only her partner.

And it wouldn’t really make that much difference as a footy player whether he is in Perth or not. He’d get the same experience both places, since we’re both footy mad states.

Look, this is all besides the point. Just actually consider your words before you blankly say that Perth isn’t a good place for young people. As if night clubs and utilities in the CBD is all that’s taken into consideration.
 
CM9000 said:
I can only say what Cripps might do based on what I know of him. Given I’m not a Carlton fan, you’ve probably observed him in greater detail than I ever have, but you’re still making some pretty big assumptions on someone you don’t even know. Nevertheless, it doesn’t ultimately matter.

I think you need to actually visit Perth, if you haven’t already. It’s pretty presumptuous to say that the difference is negligible, since it actually isn’t, and you’re frankly ignoring all the players that have returned to Perth (look at Fremantle).

And with OCD, Cripps girlfriend would probably do better in the place she is actually from, with her family, rather than a city where there’s only her partner.

And it wouldn’t really make that much difference as a footy player whether he is in Perth or not. He’d get the same experience both places, since we’re both footy mad states.

Look, this is all besides the point. Just actually consider your words before you blankly say that Perth isn’t a good place for young people. As if night clubs and utilities in the CBD is all that’s taken into consideration.
Click to expand...

It's not presumptuous to list a number of players drafted out of WA to other interstate clubs who then request a trade to Melbourne. That is a now well-established fact. Maybe ask Mitchell or O'Meara why they didn't want to head back home at the end of the contracts? You also seem pretty comfortable delving into reasons Cripps might opt to leave and psychoanalysing his partner's condition, so I'm hoping you're aware you're throwing out a huge set of assumptions yourself?

We're at the crux of it now though. You have a small town inferiority complex, and because I've maintained that most footballers have a preference for playing in larger cities, and because larger cities provide far more things that are amenable to them: status, connections, the high life and later on post-career opportunities, that is somehow a slight on Perth.

So no, Cripps wouldn't get the same experience in WA, and that is exactly the point. He's not going to leave a club unless he feels he is going to have a better experience in Perth, and that is all going to be rooted in how likely he is to win a premiership at his new club. Everything else is completely immaterial.
 
Last edited:
owen87 said:
Plenty of players have asked to be traded for reasons other than success.
Click to expand...

We're not talking about other players, we're talking about Patrick Cripps.
 
La Dispute said:
It's not presumptuous to list a number of players drafted out of WA to other interstate clubs and then request a trade to Melbourne. That is a now well-established fact. Maybe ask Mitchell or O'Meara why they didn't want to head back home at the end of the contracts? You also seem pretty comfortable delving into reasons Cripps might opt to leave and psychoanalysing his partner's condition, so I'm hoping you're aware you're throwing out a set of assumptions yourself?

We're all the crux of it now though. You have a small town inferiority complex, and because I've maintained that most footballers have a preference for playing in larger cities, and because larger cities provide far more things that are amenable to them: status, connections, the high life and later on post-career opportunities, that is somehow a slight on Perth.

So no, Cripps wouldn't get the same experience in WA, and that is exactly the point. He's not going to leave a club unless he feels he is going to have a better experience in Perth, and that is all going to be rooted in how likely he is to win a premiership at his new club. Everything else is completely immaterial.
Click to expand...

Mitchell was from Victoria anyway, so that’s not really an actual example. Contrary to your point, here’s the list of players I can think of who returned to Perth:
* Tim Kelly
* Nathan Wilson
* Zac Langdon
* Jamie Cripps
* Brandon Matera
* Rory Lobb
* Jesse Hogan
* Elliot Yeo
* Lewis Jetta
* Reece Conca
* Blake Acres
* Travis Colyer

That’s all from the the past 5 seasons alone, and twice as many examples as you listed. So that “established fact” is rare, with only O’Meara really wanting to go to Hawthorn for reasons other than money.

In regards to his girlfriend, I’m only speaking from my own experience, as I mentioned before, I know someone with the condition.

Maybe you should visit Perth at some point, because, as it stands, you’re completely judging a place you’ve never been to yourself. And he would get the same experience here, because he’s an AFL footballer. He’d have the exact same experience over here, just with, probably, more people swarming him, as we’re a two team town.

And, tbh, do you think Cripps would only consider those factors in where he decides to live?
 
La Dispute said:
We're not talking about other players, we're talking about Patrick Cripps.
Click to expand...

And unless you're related to the man himself, I'd suggest you really don't know for sure what he's thinking.

The well documented challenges his partner has might mean they see Perth as a good long-term destination to start a family for example.

I'd think he's more likely to stay than leave, but there's plenty of reasons he'd consider a move West.
 

Remove this Banner Ad

Recommitted Patrick Cripps [Re-Signed to 2027]

Similar threads

Lore
Recommitted Nic Martin [re-signed to 2027]
Replies
8
Views
1K
EagleMan87
EagleMan87
Obeanie1
Recommitted Jake Waterman Re-signed to 2029
11 12 13 14 15
Replies
371
Views
15K
stallon
stallon
MisterMarcus
Recommitted Patrick Dangerfield - new 2yr deal
2
Replies
38
Views
4K
Demon in Hell
Demon in Hell
lionshine
Recommitted Conor Stone [re-signed for 2 years]
Replies
22
Views
2K
GoEaglesGoSGIO
GoEaglesGoSGIO
The Nostradamus
Recommitted Hayden McLean [signs til 2027]
Replies
15
Views
1K
SSwans2011
SSwans2011
Cursedsword02
Will Phillips - re-signed to 2025
5 6 7 8 9
Replies
214
Views
21K
Vindicater
Vindicater
Blackhawk42
Recommitted Harry Morrison - signs on to 2026
Replies
17
Views
1K
HeHateMe
HeHateMe

Remove this Banner Ad

Back
Top