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Bianconeri said:
I think they both suit us equally and would have complemented each here in a fantasy world where Collingwood don’t have salary cap issues.
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I disagree on Treloar. Happy that’s he’s found a new home. I think his greatest asset was his burst capacity. Created opportunity other players don’t get. Offset some other faults like being poor defensively, being a poor 2-way runner, and disposal efficiency. That asset took a double ping against the Blues and he was never the same again. I imagine he’ll continue to get 20+ disposals but I doubt he ever pushes above 70%DE too often which limits his impact. Especially as his 2-way running and defensive capacity haven’t improved.
 
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Mollythedolly said:
I disagree on Treloar. Happy that’s he’s found a new home. I think his greatest asset was his burst capacity. Created opportunity other players don’t get. Offset some other faults like being poor defensively, being a poor 2-way runnier, and disposal efficiency. That asset took a double ping against the Blues and he was never the same again. I imagine he’ll continue to get 20+ disposals but I doubt he ever pushes above 70%DE too often which limits his impact. Especially as his 2-way running and defensive capacity haven’t improved.
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That double hamstring injury basically put any chance of improvement beyond him, will be very interesting to see how long he lasts.
 

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1. New Pie might be the steal of the Trade Period​

Patrick Lipinski cost Collingwood pick No.43 to pluck out of the Kennel last October, following an opportunity-starved 2021 that reaped only 11 games for the midfielder – only two after round 11, with the last as an unused sub in round 20. Right now that looks like a very shrewd piece of business by Graham Wright. The third-round pick isn’t nothing, but if the Magpies secure a permanent member of its midfield in exchange, it will be a steal. Lipinski was close to best on ground in Friday night's win over St Kilda, departing Marvel Stadium with 30 disposals, 13 contested possessions and seven inside 50s in a performance that will frustrate Western Bulldogs supporters who didn’t want to see him leave Whitten Oval. - Josh Gabelich
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Opportunity was all Patrick Lipinski needed

Collingwood were thrilled to get ex-Bulldog Patrick Lipinski in the trade period for pick 43, and he already looks a bargain based off what we saw in his Round 1 outing.

It’s understandable why Lipinski wasn’t in Luke Beveridge’s first-choice midfield with the stars he has at his disposal, but it was a travesty that the a player of his quality was relegated to VFL duties for much of the 2021 campaign.

At 23 years old and 190cm, Lipinski plugs a significant hole in Collingwood’s list, with his big body and class a huge addition to a Magpies midfield that can now match it physically with most.

His opening performance of 30 disposals and a goal is hopefully a sign of things to come, and with Craig McRae allowing his recruit to slide forward of the ball and create opportunities inside 50, we may see the version of the smooth-mover that the AFL world has been waiting to see.

He’s got his opportunity now, expect him to blossom in black and white.
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Bianconeri said:
He racked up 26 possession and when forward and scored 2 goals I think he’s definitely benefiting from it.
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I guess that’s 1 view.

Of course the contrary view if anyone was willing to offer it is likely that 26 disposals is below his career average, was at 69%DE, included 0 tackles, 4 clangers, gave him 1st ranking (league wide from all 9 matches) with 10 (yes 10) turnovers, and that his 3 clearances makes 2022 his lowest (season to date) clearance average since 2013.

Not to mention that to the eye he looked like he was running in a vat of porridge, offered no 2-way running, and was poor defensively.

But yeah, he was okay.
 
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Mollythedolly said:
I guess that’s 1 view.

Of course the contrary view if anyone was willing to offer it is that 26 disposals is below his career average, was at 69%DE, included 0 tackles, 4 clangers, gave him 1st ranking (league wide from all 9 matches) with 10 (yes 10) turnovers, and that his 3 clearances makes 2022 his lowest (season to date) clearance average since 2013.

Not to mention that to the eye he looked like he was running in a vat of porridge, offered no 2-way running, and was poor defensively.

But yeah, he was okay.
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It wasn't a great game, but on the disposal and clearance numbers, it's not particularly relevant given the depth of the Dogs midfield. He's much higher up the chain if he's still here than he is at the Dogs.
 
The Royal Sampler said:
This is the way modern coaching and scouting should go. Not focussing on what players can’t do, but what they can do and how that can fit in to the game style you are using. Lipinski will be a ripper for us, he might never be an elite, but he could easily be a 200 gamer and his work rate and ball use are exceptional.
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A ready to go 23 inside mid on the cheap is exactly what we needed. He's looking like an outstanding recruit. I think we might have gotten a bit lucky though as I think I read they thought they were getting a flanker but have been really surprised how good he is on the inside.
 
[PLAYERCARD]Patrick Lipinski[/PLAYERCARD] was huge in Collingwood’s win over St Kilda.
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Lifelong Western Bulldogs fan Patrick Lipinski still lives with ex-teammates Tim English and Aaron Naughton. But after playing nine of the first 11 games last year Lipinski appeared to have his papers marked, with his only appearance after that as a substitute when Naughton went down injured. Roarke Smith was then preferred and Collingwood swooped on Lipinski for draft pick 43. Boy, what a steal 12 months after getting burnt on the Adam Treloar trade. Lipinski, 23, is already one of McRae’s most important cogs as a hard-running inside midfielder and his numbers against the Saints mirrored last year’s unstoppable form in the VFL. The irony is the Dogs couldn’t find room on a wing for Lipinski whereas at the Magpies, McRae has allowed sweet users Steele Sidebottom and Josh Daicos to return to the wings. He’s a damaging player, Lipinski, and his vision opens areas most are blind to. That handball to Oliver Henry, who sold some candy to thread a Steve Johnson-style goal in the last quarter, was high class.
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Collingwood’s Patrick Lipinski appears to be one of those blokes others look at with envy.

If there was a Lipinski file, the words smart, excellent at sport, humble, popular and a good person would be within it.

Just for starters: [PLAYERCARD]Patrick Lipinski[/PLAYERCARD] (right) with Oliver Henry last week.


Such was the impression he made his first AFL captain, former Bulldogs’ star Bob Murphy, used to jokingly refer to Lipinski as “the eclipse” because he was so beautiful you couldn’t look at him directly.
The pair’s careers aligned just once when Lipinski made his AFL debut for the Bulldogs at Marvel Stadium in the final round of 2017 in what was the last of Murphy’s 312 AFL games. He was rapt to wear No. 27, the same number his manager Nick Gieschen’s father, Jeff, wore in his 24 games at the Bulldogs.

After tracking in the right direction early, Lipinski’s career slowed as he battled to cement a spot in the Bulldogs’ gilt-edged midfield. His time at Whitten Oval ended when he was traded to Collingwood after searching for more opportunities. Carlton and Sydney also showed interest.
It was during that period out of the team that the 23-year-old’s character came to the fore as he impressed other clubs and his teammates with the way he kept his standards high. Many at the Bulldogs were disappointed to lose him but respected his reasons for leaving.
Lipinski training this week.


The Bulldogs’ loss became Collingwood’s gain as Lipinski - who still lives with former teammates Aaron Naughton and Tim English - was close to best on ground on debut last Friday night against St Kilda. His 30 touches and a goal earned him nine coaches votes and instant respect from the Magpie army.

The high regard in which he is held internally was evident before his debut when new coach Craig McRae was asked about the midfielder.

“He hasn’t put a foot wrong and everybody in the environment is better for him being in the environment,” McRae said.


No one who knew the talented Lipinski as a teenager, when he barracked for the Bulldogs, is surprised at his ability to adapt without complaint, his character defining him more than his gifts.
Peter Currie coached him in the under-17s at Eltham before the Northern Knights recognised relatively late in the piece he should be playing with them as he piled on 51 goals in 12 games for the Panthers. When told no one has a bad word to say about Lipinski, Currie’s response is swift.
“They’re not lying, they’re not exaggerating. He is a great kid,” Currie said.

“He was just such a hard trainer. There is a reason why he got drafted and there is a reason why he improved so much.”


St Kilda’s Nick Coffield was at Eltham too and the pair used to push each other to greater heights as they strived to get better.
It hadn’t always been obvious that Lipinski was destined to play in the AFL as he began year 11 at Whitefriars in the seconds but, again, the school’s sports coordinator, Kristan Height, remembers Lipinski’s attitude as much as his ability winning him over.
“He had that mentality that he just needed to play well and do what he needed to do, and he would get his opportunity,” Height said. “He didn’t really have the attitude of feeling like he was hard done by. He just worked hard and got himself into the senior football side.”

Coincidentally, he faced the same hurdle at Whitefriars, a strong club in the Associated Catholic Colleges (ACC) competition that has produced much AFL talent, as he eventually hit at the Bulldogs.
“Because I had a very good midfield and a lot of depth in the midfield, I actually played him out of full-forward because he had the ability to read the ball off the foot quite early. He was able to run and jump at it and take some good marks and make a contest. He kicked a lot of goals,” Height recalled.
“It was more [a decision made] because he had that other string to his bow. He was probably a better midfielder, but I knew he could kick goals for us, so we isolated him at full-forward, and then we would throw him in the guts.”

Lipinski was captain of the school’s basketball team too, a handy enough player to be part of the Eltham basketball team that won the under-18 national championships in 2015 and travel to Texas as a teenager with a representative team. He shared that talent for the hoops with his older brother Julian, who works on Wall Street in New York after playing basketball at the College of Saint Rose in the United States.

His sister Stephanie works in London while his mother Marge is a doctor and dad Richard works with cars. His proud parents were on hand when Collingwood legend Peter Daicos presented their son with the No.1 jumper last Friday.
After the match McRae was full of praise for Lipinski, saying “he has become a pretty important cog in our game already”. A respected recruiter said Lipinski would play 200 games now he had his chance.
Those who have known him for a time are rapt for him, even if Currie can’t resist adding a cheeky qualifier to mitigate how pleased he is to see the opportunity Lipinski has created for himself.
“The only problem is he had to go to Collingwood to get it,” Currie said jokingly.
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Chief Ten Beers said:
Dogs f’ed up imo
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Getting in Treloar probably cost them Lipinski and 250,000 a year. So it might end up costing another player in the end as well. They're the club I'd be continuing to sniff around. Caps got to be tight as and they've got the player types we need in abundance - talented tall forwards and inside mids.
 
sr36 said:
Getting in Treloar probably cost them Lipinski and 250,000 a year. So it might end up costing another player in the end as well. They're the club I'd be continuing to sniff around. Caps got to be tight as and they've got the player types we need in abundance - talented tall forwards and inside mids.
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Another Roughead would be nice.
 
Love might turn into the loathing of Pat Lipinski within our club. Envy is probably the most common of the sins, after coveting thy neighbour's entertainment system.

Jealousy can be a divisive and corrosive force, so I hope the club is taking preventive measures. A weekly presentation of one of Pat's imperfections or misfortunes would be a good start.
 
The Royal Sampler said:
Lipinski will be a ripper for us, he might never be an elite, but he could easily be a 200 gamer and his work rate and ball use are exceptional.
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Jen2310 said:
”A respected recruiter said Lipinski would play 200 games now he had his chance.”
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Joke’s on them, I’m not actually a respected recruiter…
 

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