Paul Roos - not the messiah

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When will the Dees actually try to win a game of football instead of the primary objective being to just maintain possession to minimize any damage from the opposition? The couple of time the Dees actually played on quickly early they looked threatening, after Jones' goal in the first minute they only managed TWO for the rest of the game...TWO.

The dees had an older team out on the park yesterday, with a 3 pronged forward line of Dawes, Frawley and 'Pedo' up against a no-name and undersized backline with a midfield of Jones, Cross, Vince, Tyson etc. why wouldn't they actually try to win against a younger team??
 
People are pathetic when it comes to Melbourne.

Yesterday's game was enthralling in my opinion.

I couldn't care so much about the score as much as the margin, the game was fought on a tactical level, not on the scoreboard.

If people think footy is just about entertainment then I don't know what to say to you.

Melbourne have worked wonders this season under a true master of his craft in Paul Roos and I don't think they should throw that away because some neutrals aren't "entertained".
 
doppleganger said:
When will the Dees actually try to win a game of football instead of the primary objective being to just maintain possession to minimize any damage from the opposition? The couple of time the Dees actually played on quickly early they looked threatening, after Jones' goal in the first minute they only managed TWO for the rest of the game...TWO.

The dees had an older team out on the park yesterday, with a 3 pronged forward line of Dawes, Frawley and 'Pedo' up against a no-name and undersized backline with a midfield of Jones, Cross, Vince, Tyson etc. why wouldn't they actually try to win against a younger team??
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I think you're underestimating just how psychically damaged the Dees are. Repeated 100 point thrashings are so demoralising, and something they can ill afford considering where they're at. I think Roos is doing everything exactly right. Stem the bleeding, THEN go forward.
 

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Timmy from Thomastown said:
As for the free kick count you can only pay them as you see them. I havent heard many complaints about the umpiring from the Vince non goal.
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Don't have much interest in going over it but since you asked, there was the non fifty to Dawes, the HTB on Salem, Dawes being held on the ground for twenty plus seconds and kept from contesting the ball with no free..there were numerous instances throughout the day that I'd have to go back and watch again to recall which I'm not about to do in a hurry. Kidding yourself if you think that the umpiring wasn't very one sided all day. And the Vince goal was at best, 50/50. If the counter argument hinges on Jetta slightly looking like he's going to take a shot from that far out, I would say that argument is flimsy. He was never going to. It was over officiating imo.

Not taking away from the Pies though who well and truly deserved to win. The umpiring just really didn't help in allowing us to gain any momentum.
 
Yesterday's game kept me watching longer than it would have if the dees were 5 or 6 goals down at quarter time or even half time.

They had stuff all chance of a win in an open contest. Keeping it close in the hope they could steal a win in the last quarter was the right move.
 
SBD Gonzalez said:
I think you're underestimating just how psychically damaged the Dees are. Repeated 100 point thrashings are so demoralising, and something they can ill afford considering where they're at. I think Roos is doing everything exactly right. Stem the bleeding, THEN go forward.
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Physically damaged?? What is wrong with them physically?
A few players may have confidence issues from getting a few beltings...but more than enough new senior blood at the club who hasn't gone through it, so not sure why the excuses.
It wasn't as if they were up against a hardened team of senior players, they were playing a younger team....and actively decided to not play to win.
 
Sprout said:
Don't have much interest in going over it but since you asked, there was the non fifty to Dawes, the HTB on Salem, Dawes being held on the ground for twenty plus seconds and kept from contesting the ball with no free..there were numerous instances throughout the day that I'd have to go back and watch again to recall which I'm not about to do in a hurry. Kidding yourself if you think that the umpiring wasn't very one sided all day. And the Vince goal was at best, 50/50. If the counter argument hinges on Jetta slightly looking like he's going to take a shot from that far out, I would say that argument is flimsy. He was never going to. It was over officiating imo.

Not taking away from the Pies though who well and truly deserved to win. The umpiring just really didn't help in allowing us to gain any momentum.
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-HTB against Blair in the last
-No 50 against Watts in the first minute in the middle of the ground
-No HTB against Matt Jones 10m out early in the first

I could keep going as well. Kidding yourself if you think Melbourne were hard done by.
 
Hap Hapablap said:
theyre playing ugly now because its the only way theyre going to keep being competitive.

once they gain confidence and a new coach things would change.

lets be real here though, as much as the basket case theyve been over the past few years their continuous shallackings were becoming cringeworthy and sad.
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You're right about the confidence thing. Its just a strange way of moving forward, and after reading Roos' defense of the strategy adopted yesterday it made me think the Swans never changed their ways under him. So the question is - is Paul Roos a one trick pony?
 
doppleganger said:
Physically damaged?? What is wrong with them physically?
A few players may have confidence issues from getting a few beltings...but more than enough new senior blood at the club who hasn't gone through it, so not sure why the excuses.
It wasn't as if they were up against a hardened team of senior players, they were playing a younger team....and actively decided to not play to win.
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Psychically, not physically.
 
Listen all those defending Paul Roos's games style and saying he doesn't have the cattle are talking rubbish even if he had a great list he would still try and stop the other team from winning first and then in the last try and scrape a win. That is what he and Ross the boss base their entire life in coaching football. Its a crime that Paul Roos won a bloody premisership because we wouldn't even be discussing him otherwise. He only knows one way that is to defend. Stay close and win if possible (not mandatory) otherwise lose honourably (or so it seems). You are going to lose most games of football kicking 3 goals in the game. I am unsure if anyone in the history of the game is won one out of interest.
 

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In saying what i did above i think Paul Roos is the right man for Melbourne. He will keep things simple just defend guys we will think about attacking some stage later. They won't get blown away but as a neutral there are some who will like his style and other who won't
 
SBD Gonzalez said:
Yes, absolutely.

And his one trick is:

Defense. Wins. Premierships.

In 40 years of watching footy, I've seen little to prove him wrong.
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You weren't watching in 2009 or 2010? You've still got to be able to kick more goals than the opposition. That's AFL 101
 
Sttew said:
You weren't watching in 2009 or 2010? You've still got to be able to kick more goals than the opposition. That's AFL 101
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hahaha
 
SBD Gonzalez said:
I think you're underestimating just how psychically damaged the Dees are. Repeated 100 point thrashings are so demoralising, and something they can ill afford considering where they're at. I think Roos is doing everything exactly right. Stem the bleeding, THEN go forward.
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Roos doesn't believe in going forward. Apparently only defense wins premierships, so three goals a game is the aim.
 
What did people expect Melbourne to do yesterday? They haven't got the fire power of Collingwood so no point making it into a shootout they would have been smashed. You've got to play to your strengths. Melbourne had to counter attack. Good coaching by Roos they just didn't get the breaks when they needed them.
 
Timmy from Thomastown said:
I watched the Melbourne Storm once too. Cant make any observations about the game plan because I dont know any better.
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In the absence of a detailed breakdown of the viewing habits of millions of people (by all means dig it up and present it; I'm happy to be convinced but really couldn't be arsed looking into it myself), I'll take my raw figures over your example of one.
 
SuperSub17 said:
-HTB against Blair in the last
-No 50 against Watts in the first minute in the middle of the ground
-No HTB against Matt Jones 10m out early in the first

I could keep going as well. Kidding yourself if you think Melbourne were hard done by.
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Pretty juvenile response. But if tit for tat is your game, I'm sure that has served you well up until this point.

I'll leave it to neutrals to decide on the merits of those examples versus the trend of free kicks given in the game.
 

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