Opinion Question for Victorians - Does it bother you not having a Vic team in the GF?

[LightTower4]

For those Victorians old enough to remember - how did you feel when the Eagles joined the VFL in the late 80s?

And in 1992 and 94 when they won flags?

I'm not sure so many neutrals would have been barracking for them back then. Maybe that's where this myth has come from.

Was ok when they joined the comp. Was always going to be inevitable heading into the 90's.
OK as well when the Eagles won their first flag and have embraced our national comp.

 

[skipper kelly]

There was an inquiry after 2006. Or was it an enquiry.

 

[TheGoatBaron]

There was an inquiry after 2006. Or was it an enquiry.

That was the funniest thing I’ve seen lol

 

[oak79]

I'm surprised this trope still exists. It's like the #VICBIAS meme has spilled over into interstaters assuming that Vics will only barrack for each other.

Tends to be pushed by the media - trying get everyone in a state to back whoever is in.

Most real fans are about their own club, and don't suddenly switch to their rivals

 

[speedpeck23]

AFL is a Club Competition.

 

[South of the Yarra]

Love it in fact. Means Collingwood is the reigning Victorian Premier and has bragging rights over every other Victorian team still. Would support most interstate teams in a GF against other Vic teams.

 

[Pies No 1]

No, I have no ill or angry feelings towards it.

However, I will say that the vibe and feeling of the GF interests me much less. There is no build up in Melbourne, nobody wearing colors or talking about it. Literally have not seen one person or shop decorated in either team's colors.

The other thing is having no team to hate on. In my mind Brisbane and Sydney are neutral, and I have no good or ill feelings to either of them, so it makes the game mean nothing to me personally. If it was Hawthorn/Geelong I would be invested to enjoy Hawthorn losing. With Sydney and Brisbane I don't care who wins or loses.

I mentioned in the match preview thread these same thoughts, and I got a lot of childish replies telling me to never watch AFL again, and then banned from the thread for apparently trolling. Hopefully the same thing doesn't happen in this thread. A person should be able to state if they think a match up is boring or interesting and these my honest feelings.

Won't be watching the game because neither team interests me. Not a boycott, a whinge or anything like that. I simply have no feelings towards either team. It's the equivalent of me watching a cricket match between Bangladesh and Zimbabwe, no emotion or feeling either way. And I think this is something people don't understand about VICBIAS.. it's not that we are supporting another VIC team, but enjoying watching them lose. Most of the people watching last years Grand Final that were not Collingwood supporters weren't supporting Brisbane, but they were hoping Collingwood would lose no matter who they played.

 

[Leeda]

Nope

The sooner we get rid of this misconception that Victorians barrack for their rival Victorian teams the better.

Nearly every Victorian non Geelong supporter for instance was supporting Lions last weekend as an example

Ah well, some of us might suspect as a Hawk supporter we might bat against Geelong...but I would guess that in terms of
Vic bias, there is that tiny bit of smattering of Vic against the world...we won't admit to it though

 

[Cmarsh]

Seems pretty silly having a public holiday for the grand final when it doesn't involve any Vic sides.

 

[Leeda]

Seems pretty silly having a public holiday for the grand final when it doesn't involve any Vic sides.

They...ie probably thought nothing of it...machinations of it all gathering stuff....muster dudes

 

[Freshwater]

I will definitely be watching it, but I find the Swans insufferable, they make the finals every season, have many benefits of being a team the AFL needs to always succeed yet they often complain that they are hard done by? Amazing levels of cognitive dissonance that North Melbourne supporters must shake their heads at. So go Brisbane but even they’ve had an amazing run, and no need to complain, this is their 6th Grand Final this century!

 

[ibd77]

Seems pretty silly having a public holiday for the grand final when it doesn't involve any Vic sides.

Wish we had a public holiday dedicated for gather round. More people attend that than a stupid horse race at Morphetville every year for Adelaide Cup Day.

 

[Franc de Borges]

Seems pretty silly having a public holiday for the grand final when it doesn't involve any Vic sides.

Great logic. On Saturday night the state government says, “cancel your plans everyone, Geelong lost”

 

[Iago]

Wish we had a public holiday dedicated for gather round. More people attend that than a stupid horse race at Morphetville every year for Adelaide Cup Day.

How do I agree more with this.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Not sure the premise of the OP as we've got one Vic team (South Melbourne) and one team (Brisbane Bears) dressed up as a Vic team (Fitzroy).

It's not like this year GF only involves West Coast, Adelaide, Fremantle, Port Adelaide, Gold Coast, GWS or Tasmania.

 

[Hot Dogma]

Yes they all say that they don't want a rival Victorian team to win..... but perhaps the question is phrased wrongly. Victorians believe they are the centre of the universe when it comes to Australian Rules Football. When that notion is challenged, like it was back the early 2000s, Royal Commissions are set up, Collusion between the League, the Victorian Government, the MCC and the media are tweaked to pull in one direction. Ridiculous backdoor deals are made. Like the Gladitorial Games in Rome/modern day WWE, the AFL, backed by the Victorian Government to keep the Victorian masses subdued, so they can suffer through things like being locked up in their own houses for 12 months or more......

Here's something that may help you:

Paranoia

Paranoia is the irrational and persistent feeling that people are ‘out to get you’ or that you are the subject of persistent, intrusive attention by others.

www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au

I'm sure the SA Government has a similar website but undoubtedly the Victorian one is better.

 

[kickazz]

However, I will say that the vibe and feeling of the GF interests me much less. There is no build up in Melbourne, nobody wearing colors or talking about it. Literally have not seen one person or shop decorated in either team's colors.

Yeah there is a bit of that I guess. I know a few Swans and Lions supporters so I still see a bit of excitement, but it's not like when say the Pies are in it and all the way to Eltham is black and white everywhere.

I do think there is quite some excitement from the real hardcore footy fans though, which is nice

 

[parano1a]

No, if Collingwood is not in it, I would prefer no other Victorian team is.

 

[iameviljez]

For those Victorians old enough to remember - how did you feel when the Eagles joined the VFL in the late 80s?

And in 1992 and 94 when they won flags?

I'm not sure so many neutrals would have been barracking for them back then. Maybe that's where this myth has come from.

Yeah, but don't forget that in 1992 and 1994, Geelong hadn't won so much it had gotten boring and everyone else wanted them to go and just be proper shit for a few years.

Instead, they were the handbagger Sleepy Hollow team with a 30-year premiership drought who had come within a kick in 1989.

 

[FS25]

If you're a Victorian around 40 or younger, when growing up as young and impressionable footy lover you had Freo, WCE, Sydney, etc taking up equal importance in the league you followed. E.g. my footy sticker book devoted equal pages and importance to all teams. If anything, comparing, say, WCE and Richmond.. it was WCE that seemed the more "important"/"famous"/"iconic" team in that footy sticker book, as they had not too long ago won a couple of flags whereas Richmond seemed to just be making up the numbers.

So I'd suggest that the majority of VIC footy followers today don't have the same distinction in their head between VIC and interstate teams that interstate punters think we do

But by all means if interstate punters like to believe the us vs them thing is still some extra significant element of the comp, cos it feels good, go nuts.. whatever floats your boat

Edit: To add to this, there might be an element where I sometimes have added interest in a GF if one of the traditional clubs has made it. But I think definitely some of that has to do with the historical significance element. E.g. if, say, Glenelg had actually been in the most famous league in the land (and the one I've always followed) for 100+ years rather than, say, Carlton, then, equally, I'd potentially be even more interested if Glenelg was in it as there'd be the element of "I wonder how this next GF could impact on the long and storied history of Glenelg and its place in our famous comp". So, say, if Carlton had made it into tomorrow's GF, there'd potentially (although not necessarily) be an extra element of interest, but not just because Carlton is located in the same state I am, but because it's Carlton. 1864 FFS. (Just like if it was Glenelg it would be a "1920 FFS", or Norwood a "1878 FFS", West Perth a "1899 FFS", and so on for the other traditionals). (I wonder if any supporters outside VIC enjoy that element too when there's a "traditional" VIC club in it or is it sacrilegious to even think that let alone admit to it? )

TLDR Go Dees.

 

[Dan26]

Not in the slightest. In fact I prefer it.

 

[Collingwoodcrew]

Empty stadiums bother me more.


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[raskolnikov]

Empty stadiums bother me more.


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Good thing it's a sellout then.

 

[010203]

The first thread I saw once West Coast booked their place in the 2018 grand final was from either an Essendon or Richmond fan basically begging the Eagles to beat Collingwood and take the premiership cup across the Nullarbor.

 

[BF Tiger]

F**kin’ media.