PC Pc Gaming/building thread

[Ry009]

The worthiness is obviously subjective, but the 5700x3d is purely to alleviate any/most bottlenecks. Even my 5900x is a bottleneck at times. Then the graphics card will be just what you want to spend vs performance. We're going to need to wait for benchmarks which are still coming but the 5080 would give you more performance, but just wait to keep an eye on the 5070ti. It uses the same memory and has the same amount of memory as the 5080 and isn't too far shy in terms of shaders and RT cores and obviously will be better on the wallet. I'd wager it will come in very closely with the 4080 as the specs are similar. If you're planning on keeping it for a while then both the 5080 and 5070ti will have very similar longevity.

Thanks mate.

After reading your recent posts about 80/90 costs. I reckon 5070ti will be the go, and a good in-between upgrade. Plus there's a few other hobby purchases I wanna make.

Bloody hard balancing between voice in your head that says "pump $ into your mortgage". But we're here for a good time, not a long one. Wife and I don't and won't have kids, don't go out and get on this piss either. Got enjoy life and hard work in the end eh?

 

[dwwaino]

Thanks mate.

After reading your recent posts about 80/90 costs. I reckon 5070ti will be the go, and a good in-between upgrade. Plus there's a few other hobby purchases I wanna make.

Bloody hard balancing between voice in your head that says "pump $ into your mortgage". But we're here for a good time, not a long one. Wife and I don't and won't have kids, don't go out and get on this piss either. Got enjoy life and hard work in the end eh?

The wife doesn't usually have a say on what I spend on my hobbies like what she spends on her stuff is none of my business. However for this particular purchase I just run it by her and she scoffed but also gave the green light. We have no issues with the mortgage and I'm not putting more into it until rates come down (a rate cut next month would be hugely welcome), no kids either, we don't go out places and spend money (take away every friday doesn't count), no other outstanding debts besides the partial finance I have on the car (car loans I would assume are pretty normal), the emergency bathroom renovation last year is done and paid for, savings in the bank. You're right though. My head says it's irresponsible but it's also my hobby. She said I work hard and after a shit couple years I could do with splurging on something I enjoy doing.

I worked it out I average 28 hours a week on the computer. That's 2-4 hours most weeknights and weekend sessions. I'm roughly 2 years between graphics cards. Calculator says thats 2912 hours, and if I were round up new graphics card price to $5500 for worst case scenario or allow for not using it as much that's $1.88 an hour. I think that's a fair price for my hobby.

 

[Xtreme]

I worked it out I average 28 hours a week on the computer. That's 2-4 hours most weeknights and weekend sessions. I'm roughly 2 years between graphics cards. Calculator says thats 2912 hours, and if I were round up new graphics card price to $5500 for worst case scenario or allow for not using it as much that's $1.88 an hour. I think that's a fair price for my hobby.

That's a long time rahrahrahrahrah (same criticism I cop lol)

I'd go for it if I had a computer (still yet to pull the trigger on my dream pc... not that I've used my 2012 era pc much over the last few years sticking with my gaming laptops etc).

I've turned my nose at prices for certain things (price of ssds when I wanted to update them, the laptops I had my eye on, the xbox expansion card etc), yet I still purchased them. They fulfil both a need and a want.

 

[dwwaino]

That's a long time rahrahrahrahrah (same criticism I cop lol)

I'd go for it if I had a computer (still yet to pull the trigger on my dream pc... not that I've used my 2012 era pc much over the last few years sticking with my gaming laptops etc).

I've turned my nose at prices for certain things (price of ssds when I wanted to update them, the laptops I had my eye on, the xbox expansion card etc), yet I still purchased them. They fulfil both a need and a want.

I don't game in the morning though so you got me there .

Honestly I don't care how much or little someone else games. It's none of my business how they spend their time and I don't judge.

Regarding price it's a bit of need vs want I think. If I need something then I probably don't have a choice in it, don't care for it as much and just want to get it for the best price. If I want something it's probably not something I need but I want to be satisfied with the purchase. If it costs more I save more. If I can't afford it then I'm responsible enough to draw the line. I really wanted a new car in 2023 but didn't have enough deposit for what I wanted to keep the repayments at an amount I wanted to pay. I refused to bite off more than I was prepared to pay in finance so I kept saving for another 6 or so months to cover most of a brand new Kia Sportage that I bought last year.

I'm starting to see the "the price of a 5090 can buy a used car" line a lot. Absolutely no offence to these people but if that's your car budget then high end PC gaming isn't your thing. My first car was a VN Commodore, black rims, undercoat and needed work and cost $2500 in about 2001. Using the inflation calculator on the RBA site which only goes to 2023 (so will probably be a little higher now) comes out at $4503. So they're saying instead of buying a luxury item like a graphics card I'm better off buying another shitbox.

 

[Xtreme]

I'm starting to see the "the price of a 5090 can buy a used car" line a lot. Absolutely no offence to these people but if that's your car budget then high end PC gaming isn't your thing. My first car was a VN Commodore, black rims, undercoat and needed work and cost $2500 in about 2001. Using the inflation calculator on the RBA site which only goes to 2023 (so will probably be a little higher now) comes out at $4503. So they're saying instead of buying a luxury item like a graphics card I'm better off buying another shitbox.

I actually do that a lot to myself lol. When I purchased a few ssd's in one hit (upgrading ssd's in multiple laptops - 2 birds 1 stone effectively lol). I was pondering the other things I could be buying with the same amount of money.

I recently added up the amount of money I had spent on the 4K movies I've purchased since 2020......... could have gone interstate a few times with the same amount of money, oh well!!

 

[Ry009]

The wife doesn't usually have a say on what I spend on my hobbies like what she spends on her stuff is none of my business. However for this particular purchase I just run it by her and she scoffed but also gave the green light. We have no issues with the mortgage and I'm not putting more into it until rates come down (a rate cut next month would be hugely welcome), no kids either, we don't go out places and spend money (take away every friday doesn't count), no other outstanding debts besides the partial finance I have on the car (car loans I would assume are pretty normal), the emergency bathroom renovation last year is done and paid for, savings in the bank. You're right though. My head says it's irresponsible but it's also my hobby. She said I work hard and after a shit couple years I could do with splurging on something I enjoy doing.

I worked it out I average 28 hours a week on the computer. That's 2-4 hours most weeknights and weekend sessions. I'm roughly 2 years between graphics cards. Calculator says thats 2912 hours, and if I were round up new graphics card price to $5500 for worst case scenario or allow for not using it as much that's $1.88 an hour. I think that's a fair price for my hobby.

I hear ya mate. We're practically the same across the board as well lol. Probably haven't been travelling as bad you - but when times are rough, retail therapy is warranted.

I'm starting to see the "the price of a 5090 can buy a used car" line a lot. Absolutely no offence to these people but if that's your car budget then high end PC gaming isn't your thing. My first car was a VN Commodore, black rims, undercoat and needed work and cost $2500 in about 2001. Using the inflation calculator on the RBA site which only goes to 2023 (so will probably be a little higher now) comes out at $4503. So they're saying instead of buying a luxury item like a graphics card I'm better off buying another shitbox.

Yeah makes no sense. More future $ and time dealing with maintenance.

Speaking of cars though, my 07 Lancer started going to shit about 6 months ago. Silver lining of Mrs not working because of her condition meant that could just use her car. Wasn't keen on buying a shitbox for convenience. Put the 600 bucks towards gaming shit . If I had have bothered with another car in the 5 figures would have been big dent in savings, and probably not getting stuff I'm getting now. TLDR, those people can FRO.

 

[dwwaino]

Speaking of cars though, my 07 Lancer started going to shit about 6 months ago. Silver lining of Mrs not working because of her condition meant that could just use her car. Wasn't keen on buying a shitbox for convenience. Put the 600 bucks towards gaming shit . If I had have bothered with another car in the 5 figures would have been big dent in savings, and probably not getting stuff I'm getting now. TLDR, those people can FRO.

I upgraded from an '09 FG Ford G6. Bought it for $16000 when it was only a few years old and just held onto it forever. By the end I was running it into the ground. Heaps of stuff was starting to go wrong with it. That's when I noticed that half decent second hand cars aren't as cheap as they used to be and decided I was just better off saving more of buying some brand new. That's why I know these comments that for the price of a 5090 you could buy a second hand car are rubbish lol.

 

[dwwaino]

biaseddustyfan

Here you go, 5080 Gaming Trio $2199

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Expected more of a markup.

Now for reviews and the 5070ti comparison.

 

[gaskin]

It always amazes me there is a markup for white components.

 

[dwwaino]

I can't remember which brand but at CES there was one AIB who said white variants won't have a markup but they also won't be available from launch.

edit: must have been Gigabyte as the Aorus Master Ice is the same price as the non-Ice.

 

[biaseddustyfan]

biaseddustyfan

Here you go, 5080 Gaming Trio $2199

I kept reading $2500 recently so I guess this is okay if true

 

[dwwaino]

I kept reading $2500 recently so I guess this is okay if true

There still might be movement on those prices as the Suprim and Vanguard make no sense but we've got a fair idea now anyway.

 

[gaskin]

If anyone wants a Z890 MOBO.

 

[Jimmy Yamazaki]

Apparent pricing of the 5090's:

• MSI GeForce RTX 5090 VENTUS 3X OC 32GB: $4039
• MSI GeForce RTX 5090 GAMING TRIO OC 32GB: $4399
• MSI GeForce RTX 5090 SUPRIM SOC 32GB: $4599
• Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5090 GAMING OC 32GB: $4699
• Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5090 AORUS MASTER 32GB: $4899
• Gigabyte GeForce RTX 5090 AORUS MASTER ICE: $4899

 

[dav3]

biaseddustyfan

Here you go, 5080 Gaming Trio $2199

There's a few prices appearing in Google searches

MSI GeForce RTX 5080 INSPIRE 3X OC 16GB Video Card – $2149
MSI GeForce RTX 5080 VANGUARD SOC 16GB Video Card – $2999
MSI GeForce RTX 5080 GAMING TRIO OC 16GB Video Card – $2209 (White, $10 less for black)
MSI GeForce RTX 5080 VENTUS 3X OC 16GB Video Card – $2099
MSI GeForce RTX 5080 SUPRIM SOC 16GB Video Card – $2399

 

[dwwaino]

There's a few prices appearing in Google searches

MSI GeForce RTX 5080 INSPIRE 3X OC 16GB Video Card – $2149
MSI GeForce RTX 5080 VANGUARD SOC 16GB Video Card – $2999
MSI GeForce RTX 5080 GAMING TRIO OC 16GB Video Card – $2209 (White, $10 less for black)
MSI GeForce RTX 5080 VENTUS 3X OC 16GB Video Card – $2099
MSI GeForce RTX 5080 SUPRIM SOC 16GB Video Card – $2399

Someone has been updating that Reddit thread with these. I've been running Google searches as well as site: on each store to see if anything is indexed and it's only now that Mwave are showing prices in the search results but not on their store. So the fact that some are still showing $99,999 place holders must mean they've only just started added actual pricing. The only ones I'm not trusting yet are the Vanguard and Suprim prices. Suprim is a flagship and the Vanguard is meant to be taking the old spot of the Gaming Trio.

 

[dwwaino]

Today/tonight is the day/night.

 

[biaseddustyfan]

Today/tonight is the day/night.

thanks for reminding...probably would've remembered eventually but I was legit thinking it's only Wednesday because of the public holiday on Monday

still no prices up...? are they really not going to go up until theyre released?

 

[dav3]

thanks for reminding...probably would've remembered eventually but I was legit thinking it's only Wednesday because of the public holiday on Monday

still no prices up...? are they really not going to go up until theyre released?

Most people are going to buy the things no matter what, so why would they?

5080 FE numbers are up, not overly impressive compared to 4080 but still OK.

 

[biaseddustyfan]

Most people are going to buy the things no matter what, so why would they?

5080 FE numbers are up, not overly impressive compared to 4080 but still OK.

yeah I guess being helpful to customers wanting to decide on a model before the scramble is too much to ask

 

[dwwaino]

thanks for reminding...probably would've remembered eventually but I was legit thinking it's only Wednesday because of the public holiday on Monday

still no prices up...? are they really not going to go up until theyre released?

That's looking the way. It's the same in every market. I emailed Scorptec the other day just to confirm they were doing a queue so I'm not wasting my time when I jump on and their only ~2 5090s sell out in seconds. I got a pretty lengthy reply that wasn't a copy and paste that was trying to tell me everything without actually saying anything. Sounds like retailers are under some pretty tight agreement that they can't say anything at all. Couldn't even get a release time, but just to keep an eye out for when they release in the US. That's generally accepted to be 9am ET US which works out to 1am AEDT. I'm going to bed straight after dinner tonight and will set an alarm for just before midnight to be ready. I'm not expecting to get one but at least just to go early in the queue. Reading around it sounds like there is a substantial shipment coming mid Feb.

 

[dwwaino]

Most people are going to buy the things no matter what, so why would they?

5080 FE numbers are up, not overly impressive compared to 4080 but still OK.

4000 was a bigger than usual jump over the previous generation and this one is a little smaller. The 5080 should still be pretty impressive to anyone coming from anything from a 4070 or 3090 and below.