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2nds Peel Thunder 2023 Season
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Would not be averse to Colyer coming into the AFL side. He's looking healthy, can still roost a long goal and leads up the ground pretty well. I'm confident Reidy would be capable of providing something should they go that way.
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Just the ability to skip with an arrow makes this SOOOO much better, thanks
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Got through the game, I'm late but my thoughts that i'll try to be realistic:
Kuek: Future hall of famer / GOAT (no but seriously, absolutely tore Perth apart even if his opponent probably wasnt flash).
Draper / Davies: I put these two together because they are almost polar opposites. Draper's athleticism is fantastic and he's great kick but he really really needs to impact contests more. I'm not sure he doesnt like contact but he certainly doesnt seek it out and if you watch him specifically, he always just floats around just off the contest and it cost Peel a few goals. Davies is the opposite, angry angry man who loves contact and impacting but man do I have concerns on his athleticism being a big issue on how far he can go at AFL.
Worner: He's currently kind of the upgraded version of Davies, great in a contest, smart player but his greatest drawback is still his disposal which I'm positive will have some on here screaming at him before very long once he plays AFL
Wagner: Is a state league player and I'm not really sure why we had him rated highly enough to draft and not just go through DFA on the rookie list or something
Hamling: Still comfortably the best actual defender Peel have which is going to make it interesting with list decisions end of year, I'm not convinced either Draper or Davies are going to be ready next year
Wilson: Offensive juggernaut at Peel but serious defensive limitations will stop him ever getting an AFL call up again
Colyer: Still a very handy player, giving him games this year would be a waste but he'd probably peform as well as anyone if called up
Stanley: There is A LOT to like here. Good appetite for the contest, appears a fantastic kick and has the wheels and size to make it at AFL. Very early off one game but there's a decent chance he's our best draft pick for this season.
Emmett: Everyone wanting a Zurhaar type and this guys a decent shot at that. Basically a bigger Schultz and while his disposal is still pretty hit and miss and he could be cleaner, 190cm forwards that through their weight around can be handy players. I really like how he's played this year.
Reidy: Unfortunately for Reidy I'm pretty sure he's a fwd/ruck and not a ruck/fwd which is going to make it very hard to give him a run as Treacy is better at that role. Did some nice things and is decently agile for someone his size but I'll be staggered if he can ever even pinch as a number 1 ruck in an AFL team.
Corbett: Disposal is too big of a concern to play him unless we are really short with injuries. Still, Good hands, leads well, not the worst depth I suppose. Love his excitement for all the other guys and seems a ripping dude
Kuek: Future hall of famer / GOAT (no but seriously, absolutely tore Perth apart even if his opponent probably wasnt flash).
Draper / Davies: I put these two together because they are almost polar opposites. Draper's athleticism is fantastic and he's great kick but he really really needs to impact contests more. I'm not sure he doesnt like contact but he certainly doesnt seek it out and if you watch him specifically, he always just floats around just off the contest and it cost Peel a few goals. Davies is the opposite, angry angry man who loves contact and impacting but man do I have concerns on his athleticism being a big issue on how far he can go at AFL.
Worner: He's currently kind of the upgraded version of Davies, great in a contest, smart player but his greatest drawback is still his disposal which I'm positive will have some on here screaming at him before very long once he plays AFL
Wagner: Is a state league player and I'm not really sure why we had him rated highly enough to draft and not just go through DFA on the rookie list or something
Hamling: Still comfortably the best actual defender Peel have which is going to make it interesting with list decisions end of year, I'm not convinced either Draper or Davies are going to be ready next year
Wilson: Offensive juggernaut at Peel but serious defensive limitations will stop him ever getting an AFL call up again
Colyer: Still a very handy player, giving him games this year would be a waste but he'd probably peform as well as anyone if called up
Stanley: There is A LOT to like here. Good appetite for the contest, appears a fantastic kick and has the wheels and size to make it at AFL. Very early off one game but there's a decent chance he's our best draft pick for this season.
Emmett: Everyone wanting a Zurhaar type and this guys a decent shot at that. Basically a bigger Schultz and while his disposal is still pretty hit and miss and he could be cleaner, 190cm forwards that through their weight around can be handy players. I really like how he's played this year.
Reidy: Unfortunately for Reidy I'm pretty sure he's a fwd/ruck and not a ruck/fwd which is going to make it very hard to give him a run as Treacy is better at that role. Did some nice things and is decently agile for someone his size but I'll be staggered if he can ever even pinch as a number 1 ruck in an AFL team.
Corbett: Disposal is too big of a concern to play him unless we are really short with injuries. Still, Good hands, leads well, not the worst depth I suppose. Love his excitement for all the other guys and seems a ripping dude
Not sure what your argument with Reidy was about. We could have used a forward/ruck in the team with Darcy out. Treacy could have just stayed forward. We were outsized in the forward line two weeks in a row.
Agree about Emmett but Davies seems to wander off mentally.
Agree about Emmett but Davies seems to wander off mentally.
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We could have used another tall possibly so I’d go with Kuek or Corbett in that role. My argument is I don’t see a way for him to get into the team given all the players is behind
I thought Reidy was a lot better than Corbett and has real size with either Darcy or Jackson out. Unless Corbett is up the ground I can't see how his goal kicking could be tolerated. Kuek. I have no idea. But i hope so. Just not sure if he is strong enough yet. Maybe his leap will make up for it.
Good work Snuff. Did you think Corbett looked a bit slow even at WAFL level or was he hampered, I noticed he was limping early on. I haven’t seen much of him but he looks a tad slow
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Yeah not fast, he’s a depth player really. Mature body to play if needed
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Corbett did more up front I thought and is more capable of leading and playing a role but it’s a fair call on the goal kicking
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Thats a solid Summary.
Even though its a Young list... Its crazy we got a fair bit of blokes on Peel good to play on a wing or half forward.
Yes Nathan Wilson is primarily a defender. But you know what, why not give him a game up on a forward flank. Coyler having a game or 2 for the dockers this season wont hurt the dockers side long term.
I am Still Keen on Reidy to get an AFL game. Reidy is a more of a Forward you say? Well thats fine. He would of been a bloke we should Picked up not in last years draft, but the year before. He definately would of got a game last season as a back up ruck when Lobb was injured. So he only gets a game if Tracy is injured? Well thats harsh as Tracey has that knack to kick goals too.
As for Kuek, Again, I live in SA. I did like what he did in the presason game I watched. Good aerial chest marks and set shot goals too.
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Agree, he’s skilful and fast and was playing really well before he got COVID last year.
Great write-up. I haven't been able to watch any Peel games live and instead watched them online via the afl streaming app so my views would not be as informed as others here like Snuff but two differences I've thought his views is in regards to Worner's kicking and Draper's defensive work. Ive been super impressed with Draper's improvement over the year and in recent times he seems to be regularly playing on the oppositions best tall forward. Ive thought he does a great job of spoiling players on the lead and only needs to improve his strength in the marking contest to be a quality defender at least at WAFL level. Ive also thought Worner looks faster and has improved the depth in his kicking significantly this year. Anyway I'm interested to any responses regarding those two players (Worner and Draper) in particular.
I completely agree that giving Wilson a go forward is worth a trial run. The coaches already know what he offers in defence so why not at least give him a shot at impressing in a different position.
Agree Worner's kicking has improved a lot. What has stood out even more since he come here is his man -on- man contests and his tackling. Both were nonexistent when he first arrived at Peel.
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Clarification, I got through the game watching a replay haha, defs not at the game. It might have been just a bad game for Draper but there were multiple times I was screaming at him to get involved. Was far too passive for a defender on the weekend.
I'd also agree with Worner in that his kicking and disposal has improved significantly but I think it still can be a bit of an issue. His kicking was poor enough previously to stop him ever getting a game IMO where it's now at the level required but with the added intensity of AFL, I worry that it might revert a little bit. There was that kick from the goal square he completely fluffed with absolutely no pressure, that stuff will have people in here screaming at him
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The back story to Stanley is an interesting one if you read the midseason draft profiles. He was described by the Box Hill coaches as a non-pathway kid who has developed very well over the course of the season. Basically he rocked up at the start the season at Box Hill expecting to play at a lower level than VFL but impressed with his athleticism and kicking skills so quickly he was playing state league pretty much straight away. There is some similarities with Isaac Smith and how he came to be on an afl list.
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I could be wrong but I think Draper's been instructed to focus on closing down a man in recent times as he seems to be playing on the oppositions best tall regularly. In early games this year he was playing a more attacking role but not taking the oppositions best tall forward. One thing I like about Draper is his foot skills for a player his size. I think he's a terrific prospect overall with the most long term potential of any of the players we drafted last year by a fair way.
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Yeah I've said similar, I'm really big on him as well. He's definitely been on the most dangerous oppo tall most weeks of late but maybe Perth didnt have that match up for him this game. There's not a whole lot up front for them, especially with Hunter being drafted
I have to admit I am similarly worried that his kicking will get exposed at AFL level in the same way Wagner's kick is good at WAFL level but is not near the required mark at the next. But credit where credit is due, he (Worner) has definitely improved from last season.
As part of the Draper contract extension interview, he was asked what role he was playing in defence and he definitely indicated that his role was as an interceptor rather than a 1-1 defender, although I agree that in recent games he does seem to be more 1-1 focussed.
I don't know about Wagner's kicking from when at other Afl clubs but we rushed him into the a go l team very quickly from injury. He only spent a short time in the wafl before the afl call up. I would like to see how he goes after being given time to get into proper nick
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Thx Snuff, that's a great summary.
To me it would seem the case that just like Worner playing half back to develop his ability to close down a man and play accountable that they are doing the same thing with Draper in terms of developing his defensive skills.
For what its worth I think Wagner will be a very good kick at AFL level the next time he gets a chance which likely will only happen with injury this year. When he played his two AFL games this year he had only played a handful of wafl games after an injury interrupted preseason and the late WAFL start compared to the afl season. His turnovers were mainly due to bad decision making in his first game rather than bad kicking technique. At WAFL in recent weeks his field kickng has been excellent in my view.
Good comments.
I agree that Wagner should have been a rookie pick. I’d move him to rookie anyway at end of season. No one will steal him and who cares if he becomes a FA. In saying all that I really like his run and clean i50 entries. I’d love to be a forward leading at him. As someone else mentioned I agree he was unnecessarily and strangely rushed into the AFL team. Last week would have actually have been a good time for him to debut. He has been very good for past few weeks.
As for Stanley - I was very impressed in the first half. Really nice agility to shake off a couple of players. He faded in the second half but I look forward to watching his development over remainder of the Peel season.
I don’t mind Hugh Davies. He gets a little lost at times and hence his player easily runs off him and is prone to the occasional brain fade mistake but seems pretty good defender one-on-one. He will struggle with the fast leading players but he seems a lot like Pearce. Also essentially straight out of PSA footy so will need time.
I doubt Hamling will want to spend another season running around Peel, plus he has been out of the AFL system that long he will really struggle to adapt to the game speed and the raised intensity.
Just on this, he has been delisted twice, so is already a DFA when out of contract
