It's getting done right now but something should have been done about moving out of Subiaco a decade ago, people that haven't been there probably wouldn't believe just how disgusting some parts of the ground are.
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Then why was that spot chosen?You do realise it is going to be built on a swampy old rubbish tip dont you and the associated processes that need to be done before construction commences on such a site let alone all of the other associated infrastructure that needs to be done eg road & rail???
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Yes our governments argued for 5 years first
Because it is the best location for a new stadium in Perth ..do you comprehend?
Do it once and do it right. Subiaco was never a legitimate option for the new stadium. It's constrained already with a 40k stadium with old residents complaints and 2 small train stations. Imagine that site with a 60k stadium, let alone 80k. The only people arguing for keeping Subi were overpriced Subi pubs and restaurants, the WAFC so they could retain control and those in power who had bought houses around Subi in expectation that they'll get a nice payout from the government when forced to sell. Burswood might have been the most expensive and longest option, which were the reasons it wasnt recommended by the Langoulant report, but now that we have a government that is prepared to spend that extra couple hundred millions to overcome those issues it is undoubtedly the best location for the stadium.
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I'm pro-Burswood, but if the transport infrastructure isn't done right it will end up a disaster. Simply plonking a 60,000+ seat stadium there and assuming that the existing road and rail will service it adequately would be a recipe for disaster.
Aren't they spending something like 300M on transport upgrades?
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Yes. http://www.pta.wa.gov.au/Projects/ThenewPerthStadiumTransport/tabid/595/Default.aspx
Dedicated train services
- Six-platform Stadium Station for specific destinations for easy transfers.
- Nearby stowage for up to 117 railcars to keep a continuous flow of trains following events.
- Upgraded East Perth Station to accommodate additional passengers on event days.
- A 20-stand Peninsula Bus Hub will service suburban areas without rail services.
- An eight-stand Gloucester Park Bus Hub in East Perth will allow spectators to access more than 40,000 inner-city car bays.
- A new Swan River pedestrian bridge between the Burswood Peninsula and East Perth will also attract people to the precinct outside event days.
- The Swan River pedestrian bridge will ease the pedestrian flow on Windan Bridge and divert traffic away from East Perth’s high-density residential area.
- A new pedestrian underpass under Victoria Park Drive will provide safe access to the new Stadium Station.
- Extend and widen Victoria Park Drive road bridge over expanded rail network.
- Improve Great Eastern Highway and Victoria Park Drive intersection to accommodate increased bus and vehicle movement.
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For someone who has never been to Perth, how far will this stadium be located from the CBD? Will the stadium location be within an "acceptable" walking distance from where most visitors' hotels would be located? I'm assuming that since there'll be a pedestrian bridge, that will facilitate pedestrian traffic directly from the city to the stadium. Also, does anyone know what the dimensions of the ground will be and if yes, what have those dimensions been modelled from?
From a hotel in the city it's best to take a train from Perth to the stadium. Our train system is a lot more easier to navigate than say Melbournes, and you dont have to spend a ridiculous amount on a plastic card to use it, you can still buy a normal train ticket at the station. There will be a bridge from east perth but its a fair distance to walk from the heart of the CBD, but for some hotels along St Georges Tce it's not too bad.
I can't speak for every other city. We are building a new train station especially for the stadium, it will have 6 platforms plus it's own marshalling area where trains can back up waiting for the peak rush. It's not just a matter of building it anywhere along the rail line and hoping that the standard 2-platform layout will be adequate like you said.
We don't want to be like Adelaide where a goodly section of the crowd who with 5 minutes still remaining got up and left their lovely brand new stadium so they could beat the crush for public transport.
On the map it looks something like a 3km walk in to the city. Dimensions I've heard is similar to the MCG, whatever it is it has to wide enough to accommodate a North-South wicket for cricket.
It will be about 5km from the centre of the CBD. However you won't need to walk all that way. Parking at the stadium itself will be limited but the plan is to have people use parking in the CBD. Shuttle buses will run around the CDB to drop people off at the city end of the pedestrian bridge, from which it would be about a 10 minute walk.
Dimensions are I think 165 m x 130 m. Wider than Subi but slightly shorter. It is modelled on the minimum size required by the International Cricket Council to host one-day international matches - with the pitch running across the ground from wing to wing. There won't necessarily be much cricket hosted there in the early years, but for a stadium with an expected life-span of 50 years it would be the height of stupidity for us to build a stadium that matched Subi exactly only for it to be 5m too small to host cricket ODIs. Building it this size gives hope for hosting big matches for World Cups and the like, when our turn comes around again.
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That is true but the stadium was only completed in the mid nineties.
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It is very close to Packer's hotel at the casino and the cheap hotels between the stadium and the airport. It will also be a reasonable walk or a free train ride away for footy ticket holders.
Personally, I don't like its location but it is probably a good catalyst for rejuvenating suburbs outside of the golden triangle. Belmont, Rivervale, Burswood and Carlisle are dodgy places and in desperate need of a positive change which has started already.
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Completed, not made. Wasn't the last stand built the city end? The three-tier is from the 1970s, potentially late 60s, isn't it? Plus Carlton ditched their home ground when less than ten years prior they were put into the red, severely, by a new stand that took up a lot more space than the one at Subi.
It's also pretty incredible how both stands were essentially built the same time but the Legends Stand is so much cleaner, wider, and spacious than the one at Subi. Nicer exterior too. Pity about the viewing though.
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Not sure but sitting there every home game it definitely seems like that.
The three tier stand was stage one that was built in the mid sixties.That would eventual see Subi have a capacity of 70,000.
I read it somewhere, which outline the missed opportunities to deal with the football stadium issue over the last fifty years.
I read it somewhere, which outline the missed opportunities to deal with the football stadium issue over the last fifty years.
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So............You're building an AAMI Stadium? :/You do realise it is going to be built on a swampy old rubbish tip dont you and the associated processes that need to be done before construction commences on such a site let alone all of the other associated infrastructure that needs to be done eg road & rail???
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Picture Adelaide Oval on the other side of North Adelaide or from Southern Cross Station to the MCG.
Try 3.1km or so from Perth train station/ Post Office straight down Wellington street and over the new bridge. I live just 5km (as the bird flies) away from the CBD in Maylands and the stadium is a hell of a lot closer than that. It would be about a 3km ride from my house to Burswood stadium.
In reality Burswood and Claisebrooke Stations aren't that much further away than Flinders Street. Just a few hundred meters. Throw in Stadium station which is better situated than Richmond station.
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http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...r-your-club-20140506-zr5tt.html#ixzz30zZPCBfL
If that model is replicated with the new stadium, then it makes perfect sense why they're not keen on an 80k stadium immediately. Too large of a supply would mean less members and more walk up, which means less money for the two clubs.
If that model is replicated with the new stadium, then it makes perfect sense why they're not keen on an 80k stadium immediately. Too large of a supply would mean less members and more walk up, which means less money for the two clubs.
i dont get the pedestrian bridge thing - that end of the city fringe is deserted, and to get there from the heart of the city (malls) is a walk in itself, let alone a further walk over the bridge itself. if it was a light rail bridge (or electric buses bridge) with a track or circle route to /from wellington street that would be better?
but i guess thats more coin...
but i guess thats more coin...
