That is significantly different. The federal government is able to do that due to tied grants.
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That is significantly different. The federal government is able to do that due to tied grants.
They have to if they want cricket played on it.
So why are the SCG and Adelaide Oval north south?
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cricket will run N-S. Footy will run E-W.
Both sports run N-S in Sydney and Adelaide. Hobart also has N-S for both sports. So, why isn't that possible in Perth? Look at the majority of AR grounds in Adelaide and Perth. The majority are N-S. I would imagine some would have been both cricket and football venues at one time.
ICC has new regulations for any new stadiums that are being built today. They dont apply to existing cricket grounds. With the new stadium trying to have similar dimensions to Subi (long and skinny) the current ICC rules prevent the pitch from being laid goal-to-goal, and since a pitch has to be laid N-S there's no other choice but for the stadium to be E-W. Plus media boxes for cricket need to be at the ends of the pitch, and on the wings for footy, so N-S stadiums have 2 sets of media boxes. E-W you only need the one.
Really? So the ICC have new standards based on a ground that has no cricket tradition. I don't believe it.
Dont then.
Govt didn't want to spend two lots of money for TV commentators and radio, media etc ie on side for football, and on other side for behind the stumps cricket...
OK, big boy...
A lot of people like quoting 'ICC rules' that aren't in writing anywhere.
As if no-one has actually seen some of the utter shitdumps that the ICC approve as test venues. Sure, the ground might be located in a slum with stands on rickety bamboo stilts, but by f**k don't mess around with the direction of the pitch.
Hard to argue with that logic !!!
Cricket can't be forced into using the new stadium. But given that the stadium (or at least the layout of the precinct) is supposed to have a useful life of 50 years, it would be the height of stupid not to make it 'capable' of hosting cricket at some time in the future.
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Yeah sorry
But I tell you what they have taken so bloody long to do something relatively straight forward
There are so many good and great stadiums around the world to copy ...just look at Adelaide
They didn't taken ten years to design Etihad stadium
You know it's going to be a massive stadium? It's not the Bulawayo reserve. The only thing over the bowlers arm will be a huge stand. And a sightscreen.
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Once the stadium is built and finished and people have been there to see footy, they will not want to go back to a dilapidated stadium such as the WACA. The best thing about the Adelaide Oval is that all the facilities are of a very high standard, that it would be impossible to get people to want to go back to AAMI Stadium now.
If the WACA dig in their heels and play Test matches at the WACA then they will do it for one season only. They will play T20's at the new stadium, and the crowds there will be huge, easily between 35 & 45,000, and surely 50,000 for ODI's, as people will want to go and experience the new facilities and see what its like for cricket. Can you imagine the atmosphere at the new stadium with 50,000 there for Day 1 of an ASHES Test? Compared to 17,000 at the WACA.
Compare it to Adelaide Oval, after 4 games each the Crows are averaging 46,616 and the Power are averaging 42,967, compared to last year Crows 33,000 and Port 27,000 (which was their best average for a long time!). The Adelaide ASHES Test Match averaged 35,000 for the 1st 4 days, & even got 14,000 there on the last day for an hour and a half of cricket), and had crowds that hadn't been seen in Adelaide since the 1960's (There would have been 45-50,000 there each day if the whole stadium was open). And the Strikers got 30,000 for NYE and averaged 25,000 for the last three games and we had a shit Big Bash season (Unlike the Scorchers). If the whole ground was open we would have got 40,000-45,000 for NYE and around 30,000-35,000 for the other three games.
That is a shit load of cash that the WACA would be knocking back for a test match, (if it was paid at the WACA Ground). Even if they only played Tests against England & India at the new stadium and smaller teams at the WACA. Look at the uplift in crowds the Wildcats have got since moving to Perth Arena (averaging 12000 now compared to 4000 at Challenge stadium).
If the WACA dig in their heels and play Test matches at the WACA then they will do it for one season only. They will play T20's at the new stadium, and the crowds there will be huge, easily between 35 & 45,000, and surely 50,000 for ODI's, as people will want to go and experience the new facilities and see what its like for cricket. Can you imagine the atmosphere at the new stadium with 50,000 there for Day 1 of an ASHES Test? Compared to 17,000 at the WACA.
Compare it to Adelaide Oval, after 4 games each the Crows are averaging 46,616 and the Power are averaging 42,967, compared to last year Crows 33,000 and Port 27,000 (which was their best average for a long time!). The Adelaide ASHES Test Match averaged 35,000 for the 1st 4 days, & even got 14,000 there on the last day for an hour and a half of cricket), and had crowds that hadn't been seen in Adelaide since the 1960's (There would have been 45-50,000 there each day if the whole stadium was open). And the Strikers got 30,000 for NYE and averaged 25,000 for the last three games and we had a shit Big Bash season (Unlike the Scorchers). If the whole ground was open we would have got 40,000-45,000 for NYE and around 30,000-35,000 for the other three games.
That is a shit load of cash that the WACA would be knocking back for a test match, (if it was paid at the WACA Ground). Even if they only played Tests against England & India at the new stadium and smaller teams at the WACA. Look at the uplift in crowds the Wildcats have got since moving to Perth Arena (averaging 12000 now compared to 4000 at Challenge stadium).
I guess it would be up to WACA members to decide that. The views of the average punter won't be taken into consideration.
You wont get 50000 for an Ashes test. Gabba day 1 for the Ashes got under 35000. What happens in Melbourne and Sydney for their tests is down to tradition and is not replicated anywhere else in the world. Plus the WACA owns the WACA ground and will likely make a loss or make less profit moving tests to the rented stadium.
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If you build it they will come. Adelaide Oval was sold out for the first 4 days of the last ASHES Test by early September, if the stadium had been fully finished and open they would have sold out the first few days easily and got 45000-50000. I'm not saying you will get huge crowds for every Test Match, but especially for Day 1 of an ASHES Test, in the brand new stadium, you will get close to 50,000.
I would never have thought that Port would get crowds anywhere near they have got this year, especially 47,007 against Geelong and they will probably get 50,000 this weekend against Hawthorn which has been sold out since the middle of last week, this would never have happened at Football Park. Yes people are going to see their team play, but there are a lot of people going to experience a new stadium as well.
If the new Perth stadium has a capacity of 65,000, this will give you guys an advantage over Adelaide Oval, as you could leave 10,000 seats for General Admission/Walk ups for each game, as this would give people a taste of how good the new stadium is. As Adelaide Oval is nearing capacity for club memberships already.
Some of those opposing your view are blinded by an inflated crowd number, thats why its the only number they talk of , not dollars, given no one knows the dollars at Adelaide Oval yet (shhh its a secret ... er whats being hidden & why), & even less is known about the stadium management arrangements at the new Perth venue.
