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News Pick 4 For Daniel Wells -Reported-
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Rarely is the question asked, "Is our children learning?"
Eagle Ant
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Whatever D4E, but i wasnt talking to a mate, it was a well known sports reporter and thats why I said I dont trust the source.
Andy K= Yes
Kane T = NO
Also here's a little saying that puts what your saying into context BB.
"Shit is Still Shit no matter how much it cost".
And kane tenace is shit.
If we are last on the ladder then we are lacking something, what it is, who has it and what they will cost is the point.
eg- If we were trading for G.A-We wont get Gary Ablett for Matt spangher, we need to better the offer of other clubs for Gary and Geelong otherwise we would be laughed at.
Pick 4 for Wells is over the top, but no club could offer that so if we are generally serious about him then thats what we would have to trade to get him. Pick 20 something would not be good enough even with a player.
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Different circumstances.
Back then we were on the cusp of a flag and need to find that last jigsaw piece. Chick was pivotal, Stenglein was a handy addition. When you're in the premiership window first round picks are usually better spent on the now.
Right now we are nowhere near the premiership window. A good player right now will probably be wasted.
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Do you know anything about football at all?
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It make perfect sense. It doesn't surprise me that you don't get it. Once a stoner, always a stoner.
You don't think that there is occasionally a player who comes good? It's possble that Tenace just couldn't handle the pressure and after a few seasons in the SANFl and some maturity comes good. I'd rather take a punt on him that Nicoski.
I'm not saying he's a gun or not a risk, but he'd cost us nothing and worth a punt.
Why the f*** would we try to recruit Gary Ablett, Joel Selwood, Dane Swan, or anyone else of that stature? You have to give up just as much as you get back. Where we are right now, it would do little for us.
You are such a mental midget when it comes to footy and trading. You're so limited you only ever want to trade shit players out and good players in. The concept of offloading overvalued players and onloading undervalued players is completely lost on you.
Why the f*** are you telling me this? All I have said is he's the wrong player for us right now. Roll your eyes at yourself you stoner nuffy.Pick 4 for Wells is over the top, but no club could offer that so if we are generally serious about him then thats what we would have to trade to get him. Pick 20 something would not be good enough even with a player.
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Absolutely. You on the other hand i seriously doubt.
I don't believe i have read a constructive post from you.
If you have nothing intelligent to add maybe you should just shut up.
Of all years this is the year the WCE come last(poss).
It just goes to show how much the GC are in a position of power.
Normally we could draft Swallow and pick up Wells in the PSD for free.
This year we can't get Swallow, we don't want to let go of the precious number 4 and we can't use the PSD as well because the GC also need some mid age good players(like Wells) in their team for experience with kids.
For mine Wells would be excellent along with Krakouer from PA. Problem is that we can't offer much as our second pick is not going to offer much in the way of new kids so we have PICK 4 and that's it and considering the potential kid we could get- boy waht a tough decision.
I think the club will sya we got enough kids to take this club places we need mid age experienced players to help improve the club short term and greatly improve the kids - so I will not be suprised if the deal for Wells is almost done. Just don't know how we would get Krakouer as well.
It just goes to show how much the GC are in a position of power.
Normally we could draft Swallow and pick up Wells in the PSD for free.
This year we can't get Swallow, we don't want to let go of the precious number 4 and we can't use the PSD as well because the GC also need some mid age good players(like Wells) in their team for experience with kids.
For mine Wells would be excellent along with Krakouer from PA. Problem is that we can't offer much as our second pick is not going to offer much in the way of new kids so we have PICK 4 and that's it and considering the potential kid we could get- boy waht a tough decision.
I think the club will sya we got enough kids to take this club places we need mid age experienced players to help improve the club short term and greatly improve the kids - so I will not be suprised if the deal for Wells is almost done. Just don't know how we would get Krakouer as well.
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So why would you want to go and trade players who are playing in an environment that is conducive to playing at their best? History shows us that this is a low percentage play and more often than not result in paying over the odds for players and getting players who can't maintain the standard when not playing in such an environment.
I seriously question your credibility.
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I guess you are so simplistic you can only see it as Wells v Tenace. Peanut.
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No, no and more no.
That's ridiculous and surely not true.
That's ridiculous and surely not true.
Collogen
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This thread should be about 4 post long, with a few people commenting on what a terrible idea this is, and nobody else wasting their time with it.
Trading pick 4 for Wells is horrible idea. If Worsfold does this he only cares about his job and not about the future of the club.
Use pick 4 to take the best kid available in the draft. End of Story.
I would even trade Cox and Kerr to get 2 more 1st round picks.
Just get as many kids into the squad as possible.
Footnote: If Woosha wants Leroy Jetta he can have him for nothing lol
Trading pick 4 for Wells is horrible idea. If Worsfold does this he only cares about his job and not about the future of the club.
Use pick 4 to take the best kid available in the draft. End of Story.
I would even trade Cox and Kerr to get 2 more 1st round picks.
Just get as many kids into the squad as possible.
Footnote: If Woosha wants Leroy Jetta he can have him for nothing lol
Eagle Ant
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Ha Ha Ha you my boy are an Idiot.....Changing the spelling of my word to try and make yourself look better is low. Check the post.
Also I get drug tested regularly and am not a stoner..(unlike you im guessing)
How old are you???? I would say between 25 and 35 with the mentality of a 6 year old.
I think you meant "Than Nicoski"
And No it's not worth the risk or punt when better established players are out their. And as I said Shit is still shit.
See with Cox, Kerr, Priddis and A.Selwood in the centre another A grader wouldn't do any damage, plus it always helps the improvement of the next gen to play alongside guys of Ablett, Swan, Hodges calibre.
Yeeehhhh No its NOBS like you that cant grasp the actual fact that you may just be WRONG, (like simularities between Wall street trading and Player trading "Buy low sell high" LMFAO) and when you dont have a genuine responce to a real question then you start Bullying people (or try too) just like my 6 year old does when he tries to get things his way. Childish. You.
Because you obviously dont grasp the actual concept of anything footy related.
Wells for pick 4... whos the bright kid who thought this one up?
I'd prefer to have a crack at enticing Chris Judd back to perth than Wells
Can we recruit Travis Varcoe? He is the same type of player but would actually live up to the hype.
I'd prefer to have a crack at enticing Chris Judd back to perth than Wells
Can we recruit Travis Varcoe? He is the same type of player but would actually live up to the hype.
This would be good, Geelong might want to offload some fringe players if they seriously want to keep Ablett in the salary cap
Hype for varcoe? theres hype?
Varcoe not worth anywhere near a pick 4. But at least he's in the right age bracket to be targeted. I'd happily take varcoe for the right price.
Varcoe not worth anywhere near a pick 4. But at least he's in the right age bracket to be targeted. I'd happily take varcoe for the right price.
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No No No No for Wells...
If we trade pick 4 for this spud then u mite as well call us freo.
If we trade pick 4 for this spud then u mite as well call us freo.
Lol. Noh.
If a trade goes ahead there will be a lot of hype around that player. There isn't any around Varcoe atm of course.
Imo I would prefer to go through the draft... but if the club is really wanting to get a mature player to bridge the gap of youth there are better options than Wells. Just because he's a West Australian shouldn't make him a number 1 target.
I really do think that Varcoe and Wells are very similar players though. Varcoe (22 years old) is already over taking Wells but hard to judge as obviously he's going untagged at Geelong.
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Your post is spot on.
I especially agree with the trading of Cox and Kerr to get 2 more 1st rounders. There are some WCE supporters who have too much emotionally invested in guys like Cox and Kerr to think logically. For your own sake Collogen, you better leave this board a.s.a.p before the stench which is the Eagles board permeates through you, disabling your ability to think rationally and logically. Go, while there's still yet time, save yourself.
Completely agree with above.
I couldn't care less about Cox or Kerr 'emotionally'. What worries me is that if we trade out the few A-graders we have, then suddenly our most decorated senior players become Selwood, Priddis, Waters, Butler, etc
Seriously is that the kind of 'leading teams' group we want to have? I'd rather have young players learning/taking orders from proven 'Champions' then a bunch of overrated role players that rode the coat-tails and are dime-a-dozen.
If anything, that's been the problem with the club the last 2-3 years. I was shocked that Cox wasn't given the captaincy after Glass went down. This guy went to the top of the mountain. Even Kerr has been pretty much overlooked when it came to leading groups.
And for who? That is the most laughable... Never has-beens and never will be's. The cancer of mediocrity is widespread within the club and losing Kerr/Cox would basically make us the new Richmond.
Seriously is that the kind of 'leading teams' group we want to have? I'd rather have young players learning/taking orders from proven 'Champions' then a bunch of overrated role players that rode the coat-tails and are dime-a-dozen.
If anything, that's been the problem with the club the last 2-3 years. I was shocked that Cox wasn't given the captaincy after Glass went down. This guy went to the top of the mountain. Even Kerr has been pretty much overlooked when it came to leading groups.
And for who? That is the most laughable... Never has-beens and never will be's. The cancer of mediocrity is widespread within the club and losing Kerr/Cox would basically make us the new Richmond.
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WC have had little to no leadership from Cox or Kerr this year. Why would they be a loss in that regard. I can understand those who want to keep Cox and Kerr for their footballing ability, even if I disagree with it, but their leadership wouldn't be a valid enough reason, IMO, to keep them at WC instead of gaining 2 1st rounders.
WC will still have their captain in Glass. Embley, A.Selwood, Priddis are senior players who'll still be around. Whether we like them as players or not, they're still mentors to the kids. In the last preseason, A.Selwood and Priddis were noted for their mentoring work of assisting the younger players.
WC have a new leadership group consisting of Waters, Kennedy and Hurn, among others. It's these 3 guys which WC should be looking at for leadership. They're the players which lead us performance wise. They're the future, if not current, leaders.
WC need to move away from their reliance on Cox and Kerr for on field performance and leadership. The mantle has to be passed. While WC are in a transition stage and a generational change, now is an appropriate time to hand over the reigns and look to the future.
Losing Cox and Kerr won't sting as much as some believe. Kerr hasn't really played that much this year, and Cox has been well below par. WC already have better on field leaders. In the absence of one, another will step up.
