Would have thought Berrigans result against Picola just as ordinary. They were a chance of top 2 position prior to this game, and have now dropped to 5th after only scoring 2 points against top placed Picola. Is it a 2 horse race now between Strathy and Picola or can Blighty still cause a problem for either of these 2 clubs.
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TheOrangeRoughie
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Looking at the draw Blighty have the bye Picola (loss), Jerilderie (win) and Strathy (loss) so I would expect them to finish 5th on 38 points. Deni and Berrigan look to fight out 3rd spot in the last round as they both should be on 40 points. Deni have Mathoura (win), bye,Toc (win) and Berrigan (game for 3rd). Berrigan have Jerilderie (win), Strathy (loss), Mathoura (win) and the Deni game.
The form Berrigan are in they can't be fancied to trouble the top 2. They simply don't play well in the wet and have been blown away both games against Picola although they beat Strathy earlier in the year the tables will likely be turned when they meet them.
Deni's younger bodies might be suffering from some tough wet weather footy as well and maybe a few boys need a rest and the bye might be ideally placed for them. The final round will be very interesting if both teams (Berrigan) win the games they should be winning.
Blighty likely to finish 5th have made it hard for themselves dropping some games they shouldn't have throughout the year and would have to beat the top 4 sides to win a flag.
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Wouldn't write blighty off, they are the 2nd best side we have played behind strathyz.
have had 8-9 men that will walk straight into side to come in from when we played them
Wouldn't write blighty off, they are the 2nd best side we have played behind strathyz.
have had 8-9 men that will walk straight into side to come in from when we played them
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They are more hot and cold than Berrigan. They've drawn with Toc and lost to Jerilderie. Picola and Strathy should take care of them and from 5th it's a long road to the GF although anything can happen in the finals. I would say it's Picola's to lose at this stage, Strathy likely to meet them in the GF unless Berrigan or Deni can turn their form around. Blighty an outside chance but if they finish 5th they will have to beat all sides above them to win a flag and I don't see that happening.
Cracker of a round coming this weekend with 4 of the 5 top 5 teams to play each other.
Picola host Blighty who have been in good form lately and clearly making a run at top 3 position. If they are to achieve this will need to win this week or chance beating Strathy in the run home. Can't see either happening, Picola for me in a close one.
Strathy who are forming as flag favourites take on Berrigan on the dogs home deck, time for Berrigan to prove there worth in the finals series. Looking for the saints to be competitive at least. Again can't see this happening, Strathy by 15-20 goals if the weather is kind.
Tocumwal will finally win one against Mathoura.
And I'd say the Hoppers will beat Jerilderie on form.
Picola host Blighty who have been in good form lately and clearly making a run at top 3 position. If they are to achieve this will need to win this week or chance beating Strathy in the run home. Can't see either happening, Picola for me in a close one.
Strathy who are forming as flag favourites take on Berrigan on the dogs home deck, time for Berrigan to prove there worth in the finals series. Looking for the saints to be competitive at least. Again can't see this happening, Strathy by 15-20 goals if the weather is kind.
Tocumwal will finally win one against Mathoura.
And I'd say the Hoppers will beat Jerilderie on form.
TheOrangeRoughie
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I'd say Picola will win comfortably against Blighty but they may prove me wrong. Picola 77 points
Berrigan beat Strathy 1st time round and depending on the ins and outs for both teams I would say it will be a tight game. Strathy 13 points
Tocumwal travel to Mathoura always hard over there but Mathoura are struggling. Toc 51 points
Jerilderie struggled last week and might get back on the winners list although wouldn't count the hoppers out. Jerilderie 3 points
Very disappointed in the standard of umpires in this competition this year even supporting a winning side on the weekend it's not good enough they will be the cause of some one getting seriously injured and no parent will want there children growing up playing knowing they will not get looked after. Very disappointing being a long time supporter and player of the league my kids will be moving on to somewhere we know they will be looked after next season. This is just my opinion and I know after talking to other club members they feel exactly the same way. I know the league needs them and there would be no game without them but seriously These umpires couldnt get a senior game in previous years for a reason.
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Club umpires have always been used in junior developing grades . I assume this is who you have the issue with ?
If not and you are referring to senior umpires ?
Name those that ' couldn't get a game in previous years ' ?
Has your club filed a complaint ?
In regards to serious injury , I suggest you are overlooking a couple of serious unfortunate recent incidents elsewhere in the local area recently, in an attempt to defame the PDFNL. Hard to believe you could possibly have not heard of them given the media attention they have received.
The club you portray to follow, has apparently gone to great lengths to distance themselves from your comments , if your view is widely shared why would that be ?
Your posting history provides a very clear indication that you had formed an opinion well before the start of the year , including your deleted posts.
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TheOrangeRoughie
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There will always be a game or 2 throughout a season that will be poorly umpired. I've seen a couple as well but as a whole I think the umpires have been to a good and at times great standard. I've seen Murray league games umpired poorly it's natural as they are humans, if it was a week in week out thing I would be disappointed as well but that's simply not the case and like players I think you should cut them some slack if they put in a poor performance.
While I have been and still are unhappy with the standard of umpiring in our league I will say it is on the improve. Maybe it's due to the complaints that have been lodged. Maybe it's umpires becoming consistent. Maybe it's them finding their feet. Like all things it does take time. As the others have indicated you will always come across poor umpiring at ALL levels and locations at some stage. Yes while I do agree umpires have let game get out of control this also has occurred when we had the previous umpires.
However. It does not matter where or when "big deck" informed his or her opinion. There were MAJOR issues before the season started and this will always be the first impression people will have on the umpiring. Yes it could be tainted but as we all know first impressions last.
While the league has an opinion on the standard of umpiring others do to. Maybe the league can jump on the front foot and do some promotion of the umpiring. Just an idea. If parents and family's have an issue it's something that they could look into at least. It would be interesting to know how many and the themes of the complaints the league has received.
As for the injury part. I will never accept anyone EVER blaming an umpire for "allowing someone to get hurt". That is 100% never the case. We play (played in my case to old for that shit these days) a very tough, rough and at times combative sport. It's fast passed and injuries do occur. This is either out of accidental and incidental contact OR out of thuggery. Nothing else.
While I have no idea on the injury incidents that your referring to or the level on damage that was occurred no amount of umpiring can make someone not make a stupid decision in our sport. Yes you can give them a yellow card. Yes you can give them a red. However. The stupid decision ALWAYS comes down to the individual.
As always. Only my opinion.
Take it with a grain of salt.
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I dont believe there has been a league view provided on the standard of umpiring for 5 years ?
From information that appears to have been provided, the events that led to the league having to find a new source of umpires was not the doing of the umpires nor the league. It was a decision of the previous umpire group and the events and who was involved will always be up for debate.
However , pre-empting the umps performance is not judging it upon its merits.
I believe the league has had less complaints than previous years with far more amicable discussion when matters have occured .
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Very true. The league needed to something to get the comp running and they have done so. So good work by them
I think everyone will have judges on their merit. If a preconceived idea of how someone will adjudicate the game can be very easily changed if the umpiring was better then what they thought it was going to be. Is that unfair. Yes. However if it was worse then people will judge them far more harshly then if they didn't. It just gets worse and worse.
I would be suprised if it was the case they had had less complaints. But would agree with the fact about the amicable discussions. Has to be. They are our own league umpires. If those discussions broke down then I would hate to see what would be said.
From the games I've seen, the umpiring standard has been ok, and not influenced any results. Like umps last year I think they all seem to over umpire at times which is fine if teams adjust early to which way decisions are paid.
Can we get back to talking about the footy now?
- did Strathy have many out on the weekend or do Berigan have their measure?
- Blighty seemed to be not to far away from Picola, still think they could cause some upsets and go deep into finals.
Looks like there's Not much for finals teams to gain this week apart from percentages unless Toc can bring their A game and knock off an unpredictable Deni team. Maybe Jerilderie can cause an upset but I doubt it.
Can we get back to talking about the footy now?
- did Strathy have many out on the weekend or do Berigan have their measure?
- Blighty seemed to be not to far away from Picola, still think they could cause some upsets and go deep into finals.
Looks like there's Not much for finals teams to gain this week apart from percentages unless Toc can bring their A game and knock off an unpredictable Deni team. Maybe Jerilderie can cause an upset but I doubt it.
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Apparently alot less performance issues and to the point where there has been more complaints about club umpires in lesser grades whete complaints have also declined.
It is impossible to judge someones performance on its merit if they have not yet performed.
It is impossible to judge someones performance on its merit if they have not yet performed.
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Last of the home & away games for the nth east and some great games which will shape the finals draw.
Strathy v's Blighty, Blighty's earlier unexpected loss to Jerilderie and early season draw sees them out of the race for a top 3 finish but they will still be looking for a 4quarter effort to test their finals chances against raining premier Strathmerton. If the dogs are the real deal they should easily account for the Red eyes but nothing is certain after a loss a couple of weeks back. However in a tough game I'm tipping the dogs by 35points.
Deni v's Berigan, 2 very good sides on their day. This game will decide who gets 3rd spot and the important double chance. If the saints come out with the intensity they did against Strathy 2 weeks ago they should get the job done. However if the the ground conditions suit Deni might stretch them for height. Maybe to close to call but I'll go on form and pick the Saints by 7points.
Jerilderie v's Picola, expect Jerilderie to serve up a physical game for their last of the year, which could impact the way the game is played, but unlikely to change the result. The Blues should be to strong and a 15 goal win wouldn't surprise anyone.
The battle of the wooden spoon wraps up the round with Mathour v's yarroweyah, the cutters have a reunion and a milestone to play for and not to mention pride, while the hoppers will be looking for a win to get off the bottom of the ladder for the first time in a while. Both teams deserves a win, but unless theirs a draw there can only be one winner and I'd say Mathoura in a close one.
Strathy v's Blighty, Blighty's earlier unexpected loss to Jerilderie and early season draw sees them out of the race for a top 3 finish but they will still be looking for a 4quarter effort to test their finals chances against raining premier Strathmerton. If the dogs are the real deal they should easily account for the Red eyes but nothing is certain after a loss a couple of weeks back. However in a tough game I'm tipping the dogs by 35points.
Deni v's Berigan, 2 very good sides on their day. This game will decide who gets 3rd spot and the important double chance. If the saints come out with the intensity they did against Strathy 2 weeks ago they should get the job done. However if the the ground conditions suit Deni might stretch them for height. Maybe to close to call but I'll go on form and pick the Saints by 7points.
Jerilderie v's Picola, expect Jerilderie to serve up a physical game for their last of the year, which could impact the way the game is played, but unlikely to change the result. The Blues should be to strong and a 15 goal win wouldn't surprise anyone.
The battle of the wooden spoon wraps up the round with Mathour v's yarroweyah, the cutters have a reunion and a milestone to play for and not to mention pride, while the hoppers will be looking for a win to get off the bottom of the ladder for the first time in a while. Both teams deserves a win, but unless theirs a draw there can only be one winner and I'd say Mathoura in a close one.
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So what do we take out of the weekend for our finals teams. Anyone see the Deni v Berrigan or Strath v Blighty games ? What do we think on Picola beating Jerilderie by 82 points when Jerilderie were beaten by 132 points the week before by 5th placed Blighty.
The weather seems to have changed slightly and its when you want to be playing footy. The Finals are hear and now the H&A games mean nothing now. Two games this week which should entertain.
Berigan V's Strathmerton, replay from 3 weeks ago where the saints got the job done on an injury plagued dogs outfit. Key dogs missing the last few weeks and if they're still missing I predict the same result. Saints by 7 points.
Blighty V's Deniliquin, Red eyes travelling a bit better on form and would be spewing they had an early season draw plus a loss to Jerilderie which cost them a top 3 finish. Though the Dry Weather should suit the Deni big men. Should be a belter and either side could win though you've got to pick 1 & I'm typing an inform Blighty team to get the job done.
Berigan V's Strathmerton, replay from 3 weeks ago where the saints got the job done on an injury plagued dogs outfit. Key dogs missing the last few weeks and if they're still missing I predict the same result. Saints by 7 points.
Blighty V's Deniliquin, Red eyes travelling a bit better on form and would be spewing they had an early season draw plus a loss to Jerilderie which cost them a top 3 finish. Though the Dry Weather should suit the Deni big men. Should be a belter and either side could win though you've got to pick 1 & I'm typing an inform Blighty team to get the job done.
nofearbrowny
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Umpiring standard has to reflect the league standard at its best , I agree with comment about over umpiring it's common in murray league now they have 3 central umpires , I think umpires believe they have to blow their whistle to earn their money , well the best umpires just get the obvious not the maybe decisions those are play on . Protect the head & let the players play that makes for quicker better game IMHO
Correct. I was at the blighty win over deni today and the umpiring decisions were as inconsistent as the players on both teams from first bounce. Turnovers all day ......
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big congrats to all involved in Saturdays u17 final between Picola and Berrigan. One of the best games of U17 footy you would ever wish to see. Whilst the Reserve game yesterday between Toc and Strathy was also a great reserves game of footy on what was a really good start to finals IMO.
dogs1703
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Umpires were very ordinary all year.worse ones ive ever seen i reckon
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Would have to agree with that disgraceful
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lol lol,straight out of AFL GM by any chance ?
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I would have to say the blighty v deni game umpires looked nervous and blew the whistle at the drop of a hat. I didnt see any similarities to watching the murray league all season. If the pdfl umpires keep this up it will be a boring final series.
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I wouldnt be crowing about the quality of MFL umpires . If rumours of AFL GM taking over the GVFUA are true which of the 3 leagues the GVFUA now umpire , do you think will get the umpires that use to umpire lower placed PDFNL clubs . The two leagues that are already paying big money for administration or the MFL ?
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