Prediction Player Claim for 2018 - Adam Treloar

[Kirby]

People on this board keep jumping to conclusions on medical issues without knowing any of the facts.

He's had the scan which has obviously shows some issue/damage but this would only have been seen by our doctor so far. It may be puzzling as to what is wrong if it's complicate. Scans aren't easy to read for most people.

Now he's off to the surgeon tomorrow as the surgeon is an expert. I'd be more inclined to await his/her views.

My take, the scan has shown some possible tendon damage/ partial tearing. I doubt it is ripped off the bone as he's far to mobile for that. I'm thinking avoiding surgery is his best case and 6 weeks out. Hopefully we get him back just before finals. Fingers crossed.

 

[Dynamics]

Ok I'm off to play PUBG or something.

I hate football sometimes.

 

[Ricky90]

I've heard of fabled bodybuilding tales of extreme cramping, usually in the calf, but if bad enough, extends well beyond the 24 hour mark.

Fingers crossed.

 

[esc0bar]

Well I thought about who would replace Treloar... stock degoey in the guts when elliot comes back and we’re good to go. Treloar is good but we have depth to cover more than any team in the comp.

 

[Yidaki]

This thread is hilarious.

He had all the mechanisms for a serious hamstring injury - bent over, so pelvis anteriorly rotated and hamstrings under maximum stretch, running full pace, then pushed and having to use all of the eccentric strength he could muster to brake himself. It would have been a surprise had he not suffered a serious hamstring injury.

It's entirely possible to have an avulsion fracture and still function without particularly feeling anything. I tore my right LH bicep from it's attachment on the radius several years ago, and it didn't hurt. I could move it with some pain, but nowhere near as much as you might think. It made a quite horrid sound as it tore, but given the crowd noise, it's highly likely Treloar wouldn't have been able to hear it.

However, if he had suffered an avulsion, then he wouldn't have been able to contract it against resistance, or, at the very least, it would have been a very weak contraction. There would most likely be the appearance of the muscle bunching up further down the leg with an obvious palpable defect near the ischial tuberosity.

There are obviously three hamstring muscles with slightly different points of origin upon the ischial tuberosity. He could have partially or wholly ruptured one of the three and still had some function eg walking, especially as his adductor magnus would presumably have a fair bit of strength given his previous adductor issues, and his glute max and gastroc would also have kicked in.

The fact that he has had scans and is awaiting further medical opinion would seem to indicate that he hasn't ripped the muscle from the bone, as there is no doubt about the course of action required for that. It is more likely he has suffered a severe strain that has a fair amount of tendon involvement, and the decision is whether to go the conservative route or opt for surgery.

You're welcome.

Dr. Oz is that you?

 

[BigCharlie]

Dr. Oz is that you?

No. I don't have a Doctorate.

 

[danielnajdek]

Jesus the "no opposition supporters" thread on the tigers board is the weakest shit i've ever seen on BF

Hope treloar recovers whether its long term or short.

It's the easy way to hide behind a thread and post what ever they want without us being able to respond.

 

[nahnah]

who invited the nerd




jks

 

[magpienato]

Heart-breaking news, but we must remember Treloar isn't Collingwood. We may need to move some pieces around in order to get the output but with the addition of maybe Elliot and Moore we can maintain our rate of performance. Obviously the news is morale destroying, but we should be focusing on this week, we are just lucky we have the open-training session against the Gold Coast.

Really pray for Treloar's physical and mental welbeing during this time. He's done us a tremendous service in his time so far, the club should return the favour by giving him an astute recovery program, not rushing him back in.

 

[Apex36]

This thread is hilarious.

He had all the mechanisms for a serious hamstring injury - bent over, so pelvis anteriorly rotated and hamstrings under maximum stretch, running full pace, then pushed and having to use all of the eccentric strength he could muster to brake himself. It would have been a surprise had he not suffered a serious hamstring injury.

It's entirely possible to have an avulsion fracture and still function without particularly feeling anything. I tore my right LH bicep from it's attachment on the radius several years ago, and it didn't hurt. I could move it with some pain, but nowhere near as much as you might think. It made a quite horrid sound as it tore, but given the crowd noise, it's highly likely Treloar wouldn't have been able to hear it.

However, if he had suffered an avulsion, then he wouldn't have been able to contract it against resistance, or, at the very least, it would have been a very weak contraction. There would most likely be the appearance of the muscle bunching up further down the leg with an obvious palpable defect near the ischial tuberosity.

There are obviously three hamstring muscles with slightly different points of origin upon the ischial tuberosity. He could have partially or wholly ruptured one of the three and still had some function eg walking, especially as his adductor magnus would presumably have a fair bit of strength given his previous adductor issues, and his glute max and gastroc would also have kicked in.

The fact that he has had scans and is awaiting further medical opinion would seem to indicate that he hasn't ripped the muscle from the bone, as there is no doubt about the course of action required for that. It is more likely he has suffered a severe strain that has a fair amount of tendon involvement, and the decision is whether to go the conservative route or opt for surgery.

You're welcome.

Cheers BC!

 

[Vicky Park]

This thread is hilarious.

He had all the mechanisms for a serious hamstring injury - bent over, so pelvis anteriorly rotated and hamstrings under maximum stretch, running full pace, then pushed and having to use all of the eccentric strength he could muster to brake himself. It would have been a surprise had he not suffered a serious hamstring injury.

It's entirely possible to have an avulsion fracture and still function without particularly feeling anything. I tore my right LH bicep from it's attachment on the radius several years ago, and it didn't hurt. I could move it with some pain, but nowhere near as much as you might think. It made a quite horrid sound as it tore, but given the crowd noise, it's highly likely Treloar wouldn't have been able to hear it.

However, if he had suffered an avulsion, then he wouldn't have been able to contract it against resistance, or, at the very least, it would have been a very weak contraction. There would most likely be the appearance of the muscle bunching up further down the leg with an obvious palpable defect near the ischial tuberosity.

There are obviously three hamstring muscles with slightly different points of origin upon the ischial tuberosity. He could have partially or wholly ruptured one of the three and still had some function eg walking, especially as his adductor magnus would presumably have a fair bit of strength given his previous adductor issues, and his glute max and gastroc would also have kicked in.

The fact that he has had scans and is awaiting further medical opinion would seem to indicate that he hasn't ripped the muscle from the bone, as there is no doubt about the course of action required for that. It is more likely he has suffered a severe strain that has a fair amount of tendon involvement, and the decision is whether to go the conservative route or opt for surgery.

You're welcome.

Why is this thread hilarious? I think its just the opposite, and evidently with people posting who are anxious and trying to find out what they can.

Its good that you know more than most of the rest of us, and that you provide these insights. But that doesnt make the other posts especially funny.

 

[Adz]

Ed confirms - it’s a hamstring.

 

[GreekLunatic]

Well Ralph heard Chinese whispers

 

[Collingwood pro]

Ed confirms - it’s a hamstring.

I thought it was his shoulder, goddamn Brian Taylor injury reports confusing me.

 

[Morganashlee]

Seeing a surgeon tomorrow. One is worse than the other. 10 weeks is optimistic if he has surgery.

Between 6-10 weeks.

**** our collective lives.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Ed confirms - it’s a hamstring.

Did he say much else?

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[Yidaki]

Two ****en hamstrings? ****.

 

[Captivating]

Ed confirms - it’s a hamstring.

It was obvious as f*&k when he did it.

I guess we all hoped it wasn't but it is what it looked like. And i won't be surprised if its a serious one too.

 

[nahnah]

 

[Adz]

I’m hoping for 6 weeks.

 

[Pies_10]

Eddie didn't make it sound great, sounds like it may be surgery.

 

[PieGal]

So if it's 10 weeks- he makes it back for finals?

 

[CFC2010]

Geoff Walsh and Doc Peter Larkins have never heard of a footballer doing two Hammies.

Only at Collingwood

 

[PieGal]

Eddie didn't make it sound great, sounds like it may be surgery.

For the seasoned hamstring experts- how long a lay off does surgery normally require?

If we are part of the finals- I want Treloar to be there!

 

[BLERN]

Did he say much else?

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Tendon damge in one (fear) tear in other. Gerard entry comment.

Eddie said went into rooms after game and everyone was saying "he seems ok" and given he hasnt had soft tissue injuries in the past, its a situation where he maybe doesnt really know what hes done (reffering to his after game comments i believe)

Today hes had the scans. Tommorow we will make the announcements. We wont make them till we get to the end of the full examination. He will see a surgeon tommorow. We believe that one is worse than the other. If he needs to have surgery we believe it will be 8-10 weeks and that is optimistic.

We will tell everyone tommorow after he sees the surgeon