Player comparison thread

[Hirdy_5]

@tarkin
i would go with hayden skipworth as your 6th midfielder. he is more built and far more experienced than sam lonergan and knights really seems to see a perminant spot for him in the team. hard at it midfielder

I would think that Lonergan would be in the 22 before Skipworth. Showed the makings of a very good player last year, in terms of hardness and in and under ability.

 

[LemmingMaster]

Im probably leaning towards the latter as i think hill is almost a must have and also because shoenmakers could cause me problems if he isnt selected. any advice would be great thanks

It is always handy when you answer your own question in your own post.

In saying that, having them as your 7th back may be a slight problem, I am not certain either of those two players are guaranteed a spot in the best 22. The 22 players I select on the field, I want them to be selected in their respective teams best 22.

Just assume Hill or Shoenmakers get dropped or rested and one of your premiums get injured. This means you're relying on your 8th and 9th backs to be playing, how confident do you feel in that happening?

 

[abs_of_STEELE]

Swan/Raines

vs

Knights/Myers

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

Just some i am thinking of (especially last night). Im pretty sure which one i want but would love to here others thoughts.

Masten (defiatnly not a keeper, but i see value. Or is he just another N.Jones, a player that doesnt have a high ceiling and also isnt a great dtmer?)+ Griffen (Will make money and is value, but the question im asking myself is he a midfield keeper. Will he be the 6th mid for my side?) + Pavlich (expecting slow start, but is consistant and gives a captaincy option. Also could be a great captain option in round 2)

OR

Griffen (value, but maybe not a mid keeper) + Vince (Also value but maybe not a mid keeper) + Sylvia (a keeper for sure, but will he take his game to a new level. His 39 against hawks wasnt overly impressive)

OR

Masten (value but not keeper) + Sylvia (forward keeper and could become a premium IMO) + Kornes (captain option and gives me that real gun midfielder, however i would love to get Swan so much more).

Thoughts!!

 

[tarkin]

@tarkin
i would look at maybe ballantyne or taylor walker instead

I've got Ballantyne sitting on the bench already. Maybe Jack Ziebell instead?

 

[__aria__]

DWD why are u so confident Sylvia is going to lift this season?

 

[Effes]

I would think that Lonergan would be in the 22 before Skipworth. Showed the makings of a very good player last year, in terms of hardness and in and under ability.

SKip play a different role though...more HF? What are your thoughts on Skipworth Hirdy?

 

[Ben the Gooner]

I'm not Hirdy, but with Welsh out, Skipworth will get a very good run in the midfield as that mature body. Will average 70+ IMHO and is a must-consider, if not a must have.

My question has probably been covered, but there's too many pages.

Ablett v Bartel (v Corey v Swan)

I've got Ablett at the moment, but I'm not sure.

 

[Hirdy_5]

SKip play a different role though...more HF? What are your thoughts on Skipworth Hirdy?

Mature aged recruits are picked up for a reason to be picked over an up and coming rookie, even if it were in the pre season draft as Skipworth was.

He was pickup for a variety of reason, he adds some nice depth to our team and bridges the gap between and young list. He is a great mentor to the young blokes as well. But also won the B&F so that shows that the quality in his game is still there.

Essendon don't have a set 22, so its hard to say if he is in there or not, if he can continue to prove himself through the NAB then he will no doubt be given every opportunity. Having the ability to play both in the center and up forward helps his chances. IIRC most of his time at the Crows was spent up forward as he was unable to break into the Crows classy midfield at the time. At the Dons i see him playing as you say a HHF role, pushing up along the wings then drifting back into the pockets, so he will generate some ball.

He has a great work ethic and really gets the best out of himself since being at the Dons, probley something he didn't do enough of at the Crows.

One to keep an eye on for the rest of the NAB, see were knights plays him, hopefully Stanton will get a run too along with McVeigh, Davey, and some other blokes to see how these players effect his role and disposal rate.

 

[topdogs]

I think alot of people are a bit in-the-dark about Skipworth. I've read so many posts saying "Skipworth is definitely in essendon's best 22" or imply that if Knights was willing to stray from his youth policy and take Skipworth he must definitely want to play him. Most of these posts are from followers of other clubs, and if you go on the Essendon board most of their followers will have him somewhere on the fringes of selection.

As Hirdy said, I believe he was mainly drafted as a depth player, or at best to just be given a chance to prove himself. He is certainly not a player who you can safely assume will be in their 22.

Having said that, I have him in my team for sure. With Welsh's injury, a great pre-season and alot of Knights' loving, he will almost definitely play round 1. If he manages to perform well he will keep his spot and could average some impressive figures. However, there is every chance he will be dropped at some stage in the season if his form isn't above average.

 

[beatlesmith]

Swan+Ellis
or
Kornes+Gram
or
Kornes+Ellis?

Swan vs Kornes. Kornes, if he has a good season (i'm predicting a big resurgance from port) will get n average upwards of 105. Swan just had a great season, including the stat of having the best DT scoring in terms of TOG%. Kornes is 18k cheaper.

Gram vs Ellis. I'm tipping Ellis to have a big season, but he might not pull up for round one, and if he does, will probably have questionable fitness. His spot in the team is not as safe as grams. Gram will supposedly be given more midfield duties this year, which should boost his scores. I think Ellis has a higher ceiling and higher potential, but gram gives more reliability.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

My question has probably been covered, but there's too many pages.

Ablett v Bartel (v Corey v Swan)

I've got Ablett at the moment, but I'm not sure.

Been missed above.

Skippy's definitely in the team for Round 1. The question is whether Zaharakis, Hocking etc. can force him out.

 

[abs_of_STEELE]

My question has probably been covered, but there's too many pages.

Ablett v Bartel (v Corey v Swan)

I've got Ablett at the moment, but I'm not sure.

I have Ablett (just can't resist him) so obviously I would suggest picking him, but can't go wrong with Bartel either.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Cheers mate. I'll probably end up picking the one who does a knee.

 

[mrpig]

These are my three options
A Bartel, masten, reilly
B Bartel, j.selwood, couglan
C J,selwood, L.hayes, masten

Thoughts

 

[Colin D'Cops]

A Bartel, masten, reilly
B Bartel, j.selwood, couglan
C J,selwood, L.hayes, masten

If I had a choice, I'd go option two. Simply because it has two keepers in the combo, one being a premium who'd be an extra captain option.

Which combo are you liking the most & why? Give us your opinion...

 

[mrpig]

If I had a choice, I'd go option two. Simply because it has two keepers in the combo, one being a premium who'd be an extra captain option.

Which combo are you liking the most & why? Give us your opinion...

I am liking the Hayes, Selwood, masten
Hayes is a premium and so is selwood and masten could be a keeper. This also gives me depth in my mid. I am reluctant to pick coughlan because of the depth that richmond have in the mid and IMO might not make it into the best 22 until late in the season because of the time he has been out of the AFL and if he does play his TOG will be limited.

 

[abs_of_STEELE]

Didak vs Gia vs SJ

I think Dids is probably the best option, but I feel like I'm being biased so I'd loved to get other people's opinions.

 

[rdangelo]

If I had a choice, I'd go option two. Simply because it has two keepers in the combo, one being a premium who'd be an extra captain option.

Which combo are you liking the most & why? Give us your opinion...

Interesting combo.

The question will be will Coughlin play round 1? and if so is he capable of scoring 60-70?

I know the price difference, but it will be interesting to see the score difference between Coughlin and Hasleby. If Hasleby can stay fit, he will average anywhere between the high 70's and 85.

 

[Colin D'Cops]

If Hasleby can stay fit, he will average anywhere between the high 70's and 85.

He has missed a fair chunk of footy don't forget, and he isn't getting any younger.

I reckon he might average somewhere between 68-78, he won't be back anywhere near his brilliant best that's guarenteed.

 

[Saint KFC]

The question will be will Coughlin play round 1?

No.

and if so is he capable of scoring 60-70?

Easily.

I know the price difference, but it will be interesting to see the score difference between Coughlin and Hasleby. If Hasleby can stay fit, he will average anywhere between the high 70's and 85.

Before Coughlan's niggling injury, he was in my team instead of Hasleby. I saw just as much improvement in Coughlan, if not more, and at a much more appealing price - he presented much better value than Hasleby, and due to Richmond's midfield status I highly doubt that he will have copped much attention, unlike Hasleby who will be number one in line for the tag.

But, now that Coughlan has had another niggling injury, my hand has been forced if you will. A bit disappointing really.

 

[kangaroo19]

I am liking the Hayes, Selwood, masten
Hayes is a premium and so is selwood and masten could be a keeper. This also gives me depth in my mid. I am reluctant to pick coughlan because of the depth that richmond have in the mid and IMO might not make it into the best 22 until late in the season because of the time he has been out of the AFL and if he does play his TOG will be limited.

A lot of people criticise others for asking player comparison questions, and throwing up combinations. Now I'm the first to admit that I am one of those people... I love getting feedback from others. But this post here is a perfect example of why it is good to post player combinations. Mrpig has answered his own question simply be getting feedback from other posters. If anything, it can help reinforce your own point of view, and you end up making decisions based on your original instinct anyway.

Just thought i'd share.

 

[beatlesmith]

Raines or Jesse W Smith???
Skipworth or Hentschel+75k?
Mcintosh or Fraser?

 

[Waspy79]

Hasleby or Travis Tuck

 

[Ben the Gooner]

JWS
Skipworth
HMac