List Mgmt. Player Contracts Thread

[Samsara]

Definitely. One year is good, see how he goes in 2012 and if he gets some form back, pen another one year deal for 2013.

 

[Captain Jack]

Good.
That is all.

 

[oxyconman]

m.clark is def worth pick 12 - draft picks are bloody hit and miss, m.clark is a can not miss however the contract is way to expensive but we have to pay someone stupid money to even reach 92.5% of the cap and it was the only way he was coming to us

 

[oxyconman]

getting rid of warnock was a mistake, not every player on the list has to develop into a gun or simply get delisted - we need some depth incase another tall defender gets injured there is a great backup who is solid at afl level - man these clubs never learn

 

[Deefolt]

getting rid of warnock was a mistake, not every player on the list has to develop into a gun or simply get delisted - we need some depth incase another tall defender gets injured there is a great backup who is solid at afl level - man these clubs never learn

I'm gonna go ahead and trust our list management on this one buddy

 

[Deefolt]

m.clark is def worth pick 12 - draft picks are bloody hit and miss, m.clark is a can not miss however the contract is way to expensive but we have to pay someone stupid money to even reach 92.5% of the cap and it was the only way he was coming to us

You're just a negative little sod ain't you, we had the money why not spend it, we got someone who we needed we did what was needed to get him...

 

[Captain Jack]

Vale oxyconman, 16 post veteran.

 

[old55]

Joel Macdonald out of contract

At Melbourne, Joel MacDonald joins a number of fringe players yet to be re-contracted by the Demons

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...lldogs-wish-list/story-fn69a32t-1226157588606

 

[old55]

Jack Fitzpatrick was recontracted this year for 2 years through to 2013 - there's no link on-line. The best official reference I can give you is Todd's season review, it's not definitive but I know for a fact he's re-contracted.

... he will be a really exciting player for us with another pre-season under his belt

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/7415/newsid/124854/default.aspx

 

[Deestroy]

Thanks for the Macdonald link. Not happy we have a source to link for Fitzy yet though.

 

[old55]

Thanks for the Macdonald link. Not happy we have a source to link for Fitzy yet though.

Fair enough, you don't know me from topsy.

 

[Deestroy]

Fair enough, you don't know me from topsy.

I don't doubt that you may well know the guy and he may well have told you about his next contract.

My idea with this thread was for only sourced concrete links to be used to update players. If we get to the draft with nothing more than there is now I will more him to 'unknown' (i.e. we will know he's contracted but not know for sure how many years).

 

[old55]

I don't doubt that you may well know the guy and he may well have told you about his next contract.

My idea with this thread was for only sourced concrete links to be used to update players. If we get to the draft with nothing more than there is now I will more him to 'unknown' (i.e. we will know he's contracted but not know for sure how many years).

Completely fair and reasonable. Maybe we should ping Matt Burgan and get him to write an article on Jack's new contract - I'll see if there's a link on the official site

 

[Deestroy]

Updated for confirmation Lawrence kept as a 2nd year rookie.

 

[DeeWong6996]

How long are recent draftees usually contracted for? By that I mean Sellar, Taggert and Tynan...

 

[RandB]

How long are recent draftees usually contracted for? By that I mean Sellar, Taggert and Tynan...

2 yrs minimum for ND and 1 yr minimum for RD I beleive.

On another note, is it fair to say we have recontracted both Macdonald and Fitzpatrick?

List lodgement 3 was last wednesday.

 

[RandB]

As we all know Free Agency will be in effect as of the end of 2012.

8 Years of service to the 1 club will mean restricted FA options and 10 years of service to the 1 club will mean unrestricted FA options.

Details here.

In light of this I thought perhaps it would be informative to add to the contract status of each player how many years they have spent on the senior list as at the end of the current year.

Deestroy, you may or may not want to add this but I'll put the numbers here just for anyone else's interest:

Age 30+ (1) - Yrs on SL at end of 2012
________________________________________
 
Green - 13yrs
__________________
 
25 - 29 (7)
__________________
 
Davey - 9yrs
 
Jamar - 10yrs
 
Macdonald - 3yrs
 
Moloney - 8yrs
 
Rivers - 10yrs
 
Sylvia - 9yrs
 
Martin - 5yrs
__________________
 
20 - 24 (30)
__________________
 
Bate - 8yrs
 
Clark - 1yr
 
Dunn - 8yrs
 
Magner
 
Bail - 4yrs
 
Bartram - 7yrs
 
Couch
 
Frawley - 6yrs
 
Garland - 6yrs
 
Jones - 7yrs
 
Jurrah - 4yrs
 
Petterd - 6yrs
 
Grimes - 5yrs
 
Sellar - 1yr
 
Spencer - 2yrs
 
Bennell - 4yrs
 
Howe - 2yrs
 
Jetta - 4yrs
 
McKenzie - 2yrs
 
Morton - 5yrs
 
Nicholson
 
Strauss - 4yrs
 
Williams
 
Blease - 4yrs
 
Fitzpatrick - 3yrs
 
Gawn - 3yrs
 
Gysberts - 3yrs
 
Trengove - 3yrs
 
Tapscott - 3yrs
 
Watts - 4yrs
_________________
 
Teenagers (8)
_________________
 
Cook - 2yrs
 
Davis - 2yrs
 
Evans
 
Lawrence
 
McDonald - 2yrs
 
Sheahan
 
Taggert - 1yr
 
Tynan - 1yr

It really puts a few things into perspective. If you look at Jones who I think we all agree still has his best ahead of him, he'll be in the restricted window as of the end of next year!

There is mega value in trading in players like we did with Clark.

There is value in developing promising rookies and keeping them on the rookie list as long as possible like Nicholson. Well, I say this if my understanding of "being on a list" means the actual senior list. If rookie list yrs count towards a players time at a club then this point is moot.

In principle, drafting 17 yr olds in the ND essentially brings their window 1 yr closer compared to drafting an 18 yr old in the same draft. By that I mean you will get 1 less year at the top end out of them prior to the restricted FA window. e.g Watts will hit the window after he turns 25 whereas Bennell (who was drafted in the same draft) will hit the window after he turns 26 so we get an extra year out of Bennell at the top end.

Mature age draftees and rookies look better in this regard. If Magner (for example) can make it long term and get elevated to the senior list at the end of 2012 then we would probably have seen his best before the restricted window opens for him.

Obviously the contractual circumstances of our list will play a part in the 8/9 yr stages of players and you'd expect our better players will be on more money but at this point it is probably better to keep the analysis simple.

 

[Logger]

What's the difference between the R and B players, RandB?

 

[RandB]

What's the difference between the R and B players, RandB?

Nothing mate. Thats just how I had them saved in a word doc to seperate by age.

 

[RandB]

Here's the official Free Agent List for yr ending 2012.

We kind of knew anyway who ours were but here's our list:

Unrestricted: Bate, Dunn, Green, Jamar, Rivers

Restricted: Moloney

(I'll update this as new contracts are signed - Jamar being the most important it seems).

 

[RandB]

Updated for Jamar.

08/06/2012

 

[Supermercado]

Updates and all that's still a scary list of people we've still got to re-sign this year.

 

[Bartram_Class]

Some twitter chatter that Howe and Jones are close to signing on; they along with Garland and McDonald would have to be the priorities you'd think.

Suspect we're going to lose at least a couple of Petterd, Bate, Dunn and Moloney. Just hope the club is targeting replacements, I don't see what we can benefit from stocking up with any more kids than we will already earn with a poor year.

 

[rhaz]

MELBOURNE has re-signed Colin Garland and Jordie McKenzie until the end of 2015 and Tom McDonald until the end of 2014.

From MFC website

 

[RandB]

Updated for Garland, McKenzie & McDonald.

07/07/2012