Player X or Player Y (part 2)

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Steve Johnson or Bartel??

Currently I have dangerfield in midfield and johnson up forward.
I'm thinking I want bartel in my team and the only way to do it, keeping dangerfield is to cut Johnson, chuck Dangerfield down forward and then there's room for Bartel in the midfield.

Thoughts? Jimmy probably more likely to get more posessions/points etc? maybe? hopefully?!

Bartel. Far more durable and will average 5+ppg more.

Harbrow vs Ellis.

Ellis i think has far more scope in his average to push to a premium, where as Harbrow is more durable but might only reach 80ppg. What do you guys think?
 
I won't quote WoGiTaLiA, but good post :thumbsu:

I call guys like Masten, "Nothing players". Where they're not good enough to be keepers, and they don't make enough money to be cash-cows. Why anyone would want to waste a crucial midfield spot on a nothing player has me baffled. At least guys like Medhurst and Malceski will deliver the kind of scores expected of their respective positions.
 

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I call guys like Masten, "Nothing players". Where they're not good enough to be keepers, and they don't make enough money to be cash-cows. Why anyone would want to waste a crucial midfield spot on a nothing player has me baffled. At least guys like Medhurst and Malceski will deliver the kind of scores expected of their respective positions.

Nothing is a bit harsh, they do have some value and it wouldn't shock me if one of the guys I named did end up a keeper, possibly even Masten, I just think they are bad options. It's funny though, if Masten was a M/F I would be all over him as a good choice because as a forward 95 would be keeper worthy. Positional value is such a key concept. A guy that scores 95 defense is worthy more than a guy scoring 100 in the mids. 95 is like a 105+. You need to pick the team with that in mind, so picking with the idea of keeping a midfielder scoring a 95 is a flawed plan, its like keeping a forward on an 80. Sure it's a solid score you can live with, but you should plan for a 90 at least.
 
Bartel. Far more durable and will average 5+ppg more.

Harbrow vs Ellis.

Ellis i think has far more scope in his average to push to a premium, where as Harbrow is more durable but might only reach 80ppg. What do you guys think?

I would take Harbrow personally, the injury problems Ellis has had in the past, I don't know if his potential upside outweighs the risk of picking him

Tippett vs Hall
 
I would take Harbrow personally, the injury problems Ellis has had in the past, I don't know if his potential upside outweighs the risk of picking him

Tippett vs Hall
I have been tossing up on this one too. Until last week I had tippet, but I think that Hall presents better value, although if you are looking for a keeper then go fo tippet.if you need to free up cash and don't want a keeper then go for Hall but if you have spare cash or whant a keeper go for tippet. I don't view Hall as a keeper because I struggle to see him not getting injured or reported durning the season, Plus do you really want a 34 year old key position player in your team come finals. If I get hall I will be aiming to trade him out at some point around round 8-10.
 
I call guys like Masten, "Nothing players". Where they're not good enough to be keepers, and they don't make enough money to be cash-cows. Why anyone would want to waste a crucial midfield spot on a nothing player has me baffled. At least guys like Medhurst and Malceski will deliver the kind of scores expected of their respective positions.

Calling a Masten a nothing player is very absurd if he manages to increase is average to 80, which alot of people, maybe even yourself, expects to happen this season.
A) A midfield keeper would need to average 95+ and although in my opinion unlikely, I wouldn't say Masten has 0% chance of doing that. As i recall, not many people believed Bernie Vince would of jumped from 70Avg to 100Avg last year.
B)If he does increase increase his average to 80-90, his price will increase to approximately 350k and allow you to jump onto a premium, which has fallen in price, without using the money you get from cashing into a cash cow.
Eg. Let's say Team X has Masten(80avg-350k), Armitage(90avg-380k) and Barlow(60avg-220k) while Team Y has Swan(110avg-500k), Trengove(60avg-220k) and Barlow(60avg-220k) with potential averages and prices. Both combinations would require a similar amount of money at the start of the season. In Team Y, by downgrading Barlow to fund the upgrade of Trengove, you would have approximately 360k to fund an upgrade,ie Armitage. While in Team X, downgrading Barlow would allow you to trade Masten to a premium of about 500k or get a lower end keeper at 450k, who will score as much as Swan in the second half of the season, and spend the money elsewhere.

As you can see, both of these combinations will score you the same amount of points and you will also receive about the same amount of money during the season without the risks that comes with selecting rookies. Imo, the chances for a rookie like Trengove to play 22 games and average 80 is about the same as Masten playing 22 and averaging 100, therefore he's definitely not a nothing player.
C)The amount of money you make is only in comparison to other players. If Masten increases his price by 50k and the price of a particular player you want drops by 50k, you have effectively made 100k from the start of the season.

If Masten does increase his average by 10ppg, he is by no means a nothing player even if he doesn't fulfill keeper criteria.

P.S. I don't have Masten:p.
 
not so much A v b, but a set of players vs another set

opinions....

Corey Enright - 394k
Josh Hunt - 164k
Michael Barlow - 105k
Barry Hall - 281k
Tom Rockliff - 101k
a) Adam Goodes - 434k or b) Ryan O'Keefe - 425k

This totals 1m 479k (or 1m 470k with O'Keefe option)

i'll be picking beau waters over josh hunt if waters is going to line up round 1 - i'm still not sold on waters playing though.

or

Jason Gram - 403k
Tadgh Kennelly - 204k
Tom Scully - 157k
Matt Pavlich - 404k
Taylor Walker - 221k
Trent Dennis-Lane - 89k

This totals 1m 478k

also Which two of Robbie Warnock, Wade Skipper and Matt Lobbe as back ups rucks?? have Natinui and Kruezer as starting rucks. after sullivan's elevation today for the eagles i think a solid tactic might be Kruezer/Naitinui - Warnock/Sullivan.

It looks like Warnock will play regardless so if Kruezer goes down he should slot in as a number 1 ruckman, whilst if NickNat goes down or needs a week here and there i can bring Sullivan into the team and at least not have a 0 even though he's unlikely to rack up massive scores??
 
When it comes down to it there are a host of good options between 150-165 and also from 90 -105 but you can't have them all. I left out the forward rookies out who I think are clearly inferior.

How do you rate these in order?

164 Hunt
157 Scully
156 Connors
153 Trengove
152 Waters
149 Martin

AND

105 Barlow
105 Jetta
94 Shuey
94 Banner
89 Bastinac

Of these my top choice is Barlow and last choice is Bastinac as i am unsure whether he will get games early.

Thoughts?
 
Looking at the pairings, i'd want Harbrow and Dangerfield, but obviously that isn't an option for you. Dempsey's picked up some hype around here but his potential is questionable and Wright I don't know much of!

What about you melan,

Kennelly, Lobbe, Shaw, Tippett and Bastinac

vs

Silvagni, Skipper, Duffield, Pavlich and Shuey?

I'd go the second purely because it gives you 2 pretty much locked premiums. The three rookies are all solid options IMO too, especially Shuey over Bastinac and Skipper over Lobbe.
 
I really want to get Barlow in my team, who should I get rid of though out of Martin, Schuey, Trengrove or Banner, I currently have trengrove and Martin starting.

Get Barlow in for one of them or leave it as it is?
 

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I really want to get Barlow in my team, who should I get rid of though out of Martin, Schuey, Trengrove or Banner, I currently have trengrove and Martin starting.

I'd get rid of Banner if you're looking at job security.

I'm tossing up between two dilemas...

Boomer Harvey vs Higgins?
Ziebell vs Hall?
 
Boomer Harvey vs Higgins?
Ziebell vs Hall?

Harvey. I think he will benefit from a more freely scoring North side, and by all reports is in good health.

Hall for me. His pre-season has shown the dogs will always bomb it long to him when any other target is in doubt. Should kick a few bags. Might be just under a keeper, but could hit $400k.

1) Masten v Ziebell in the midfield?

2) Have a three rookie midfield with Cornes, Shuey and Franklin....or have a 2 rookie midfield with Malceski, Masten and Medhurst?
 
Dangerfield or Rohan?

They're kind of priced differently so I guess it depends on your structure. Danger is guaranteed 22 games this year bar injury. He's also playing midfield so expect an realistic average of about 70.


My question is more of a structure question:

1 x Premium gun
2 x Mid pricers

vs
2 x Guns
1 Mid pricer

In my case it is
Swan + Masten + Gray
vs
Stanton + Vince + Hall


In the first case Masten would be my 3rd midfielder, which I'm a little worried about as he could end up being my 6th midfielder. However I'm so certain he will push his average past 80, which should take his value to about 360k, which may be enough for a upgrade to a gun without having to do a downgrade. I also start with Swan who will be a player I'll want to have in my team as a captain choice.
 
Swan (c) + Prismall - 240 + 95 = 335
or
Bartel (c) + Selwood - 220 + 105 = 325

Have I just answered my own question?
 
$881,300 to spend on two premium forwards.

Which of Didak, SJ, Davis, Goodes, O'Keefe and Pavlich are people leaning towards?
 
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