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I personally feel that Selwood is going to receive a lot more attention this year so I'd go with Pendles.

Gilbee v Mackie v Adcock

Mackie.

But i'd take a risk with Adcock, he could turn out way better than them this year.

I have a few questions. :cool:

Kennedy v Gray.

Harvey v Higgins.

And Fisher v Adcock v Mackie v R or H Shaw.
 
adcock or gillbee??

Jed Adcock was pretty inconsistent last year, and has some durability issues. I'm unsure where the improvement will come from with Jed. If I'm not mistaken, he permanently moved into the midfield in 2008 and his averaged dropped 18 points.

Gilbee is such a damaging user of the ball that he'll invariably get attention. He's a pure HB flanker as well - so he's not going to get a massive number of touches playing through the middle. Doesn't tackle a great deal either.

If I had to pick one or the other, I'd probably pick Jed though. Just a feeling that Gilbee will always be a very consistent DT player - as evidenced by his last 5 seasons - all within about 5 points - but never a superstar. There's some variables there with Jed - if he can get his body right he's still young enough for some natural improvement.

However, for that price I prefer Carazzo, Mackie or Hodge and maybe Shaw or Fisher. Carazzo is a proven DT gun, as long he isn't played in a negating role. There is talk of Hodge being freed up to play forward / midfield, so he's not going to get sat on like he did in a couple of games last year.

If Mackie can be freed up to play a more attacking role, possibly with Hunt/Drum playing the negating roles, he could return to his 2008 average of 91 (or better).

Shaw will be one to keep an eye out during the NAB cup - he played through the middle in the intraclub and racked up a few disposals. If he gets freed up through the midfield look for his average to improve without a forward tag (like Hodge).

Fisher had 150 in the GF obviously, but I'm not sure whether he's going to have that kind of freedom in many games this year.
 

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Schoenmaker/Ladson/J.Hunt/T.Williams
as a 7th defender?

Ladson will average 70-80 and increase to about $300'000 pretty quickly. I will be taking him and selling when he gets to the 280-300 mark. Schoenmakers is a key defender and won't rack up the points. Hunt should be similar to Ladson but doesn't quite score as high. Tom Williams is a key defender see Schoenmakers.
 
Ladson will average 70-80 and increase to about $300'000 pretty quickly. I will be taking him and selling when he gets to the 280-300 mark. Schoenmakers is a key defender and won't rack up the points. Hunt should be similar to Ladson but doesn't quite score as high. Tom Williams is a key defender see Schoenmakers.

Being a hawks supporter, can you tell us how he is travelling and whether you would expect him back by round one. Also, Do you think job security could be an issue for him?

Personally at the moment I am going with Hunt probably in the end due to the cheaper price tag :thumbsu:
 
Could people please read try and read the forum so they prevent asking things which have been asked 20 times over. Also you may only post a question by answering the question above... unless of course the person above didn't offer one.
 
hey guys

masten vs palmer vs dalziell

At the moment, Masten. I think you can write off Palmer - he's struggling and may not even play Round 1. And even if he does, he's likely to be underdone.

Dalziell certainly has the highest ceiling, but there are massive question marks over his job security and role. IF he plays and IF he plays the role he did at Brisbane - i.e wandering around from HBF to HFF with no accountability he'll be an absolute bargain at the price he's at. He invariabilty won't be tagged and the wide open spaces of Subi will suit him perfectly. However, I'm not sure if he's best 22, and there is speculation he'll play as a tagger.

Masten seems like a safe bet at the moment. He's had a great pre-season and is over the OP that hampered him for the past couple of seasons. However, I don't think he's got a particularly high ceiling. E.g. last year, round 16 had it 38 times for a grand total of 101 points. Is an inside midfielder who are typically not the best DT picks. I can see him averaging maybe 80 points. I suspect if you pick a player around that price, you want him to be a possible keeper, and 80 points doesn't equal keeper.

In summary - Masten is a good, safe pick but probably won't be a keeper. Dalziell is risk/reward.
 
Higgins v Harvey.

Again a risk reward scenario. Higgins has had a great pre-season and has the possibility to life his average by 5-10 imo in a strong bullies side. However it is unlikely you'll get 22 out of him as he has a history of soft tissue injuries. Harvey is more durable but is less likely to increase his average (as his 0 isn't counted in it) as age catches up with him.

In conclusion I'd probably go Higgins just because he's younger and could be anything really.

Deledio vs Cooney vs Prismall
 

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Cooney... Had an iffy year last year and should be back to best now. Will average 100+

Gibbs v Bartel v Hayes

Bartel, Gibbs will no doubt cop more attention early on this year with the absence of Judd, i think Bartel is well priced at $480k

I have one.....

GOODWIN, BARTEL, DIDAK

VS

ENRIGHT, SELWOOD, REIWOLDT ?
 
Bartel, Gibbs will no doubt cop more attention early on this year with the absence of Judd, i think Bartel is well priced at $480k

I have one.....

GOODWIN, BARTEL, DIDAK

VS

ENRIGHT, SELWOOD, REIWOLDT ?

Option 2, Riewoldt didnt have much of a preseason last year, however this year he has and in addition the extra motivation the saints will have shuld see him lift his already high average. Enright same old, same old 85-90 each week. Id pick Bartel over Selwood as i think selwood will se extra attention this year, however still a quality pick and shuld average 105+. Goodwin is old and Didak might recieve a tag and in addition isnt the most reliable player
 
And Fisher v Adcock v Mackie v R or H Shaw.

Mackie and probably Fisher are the two that I would say are at the most decent price, both most likely to go up. All have questions over their heads but I am thinking that with Geelongs defensive 'ins' Mackie should be freed up and hopefully make a mockery of his starting price (I have Mackie).

What everyone really wants to know is-

Goodes or O'Keefe? (for my forward line)
 
Higgins v Harvey.

One I have been considering myself recently. Purely on stats in both scoring ability and Durability Harvey is your man. 20, 20, 20, 19, 21, 21, 22, 22, 22, 22, 15. Is his list of games played since his 3rd season back in 1998 (assuming he missed games in his first two seasons from selection).

That stat alone is incredible and the run of 22's was only interupted by a freak tackling accident were he twisted his elbow out of its socket. So there a no signs of any soft tissue injuries in his body. Since 2001 he has only averaged under 85 ppg once in 2004 which just seems like a bit of an anomaly in his career.

The Age factor is the other thing worthy to note. Brent will turn 32 this year which is getting to that age were generally the players bodies start to cope with the workload. Refer to Richo last year.

Higgins is still new on the scene but dominated last year in his break out year averaging 88.5 in 17 games. Durability is the question mark here with several injuries disrupting his AFL career already.

Both come with associated risks and both hold the potential to average 95+. For me I would be taking Harvey as I think the risk associated is lower and his scores late last year showed he is still very capable averaging 90.9ppg from 10 games after coming back from injury.
 
Mackie and probably Fisher are the two that I would say are at the most decent price, both most likely to go up. All have questions over their heads but I am thinking that with Geelongs defensive 'ins' Mackie should be freed up and hopefully make a mockery of his starting price (I have Mackie).

What everyone really wants to know is-

Goodes or O'Keefe? (for my forward line)

I'd go with Goodes simply based upon his late season form in which he played mostly forward and towelled up against some very good teams. And i dont see much more improvement from O'Keefe after he joined the midfield last year and i expect to see him tagged more this year.

Pavlich vs Robert Murphy
and
Chad Cornes vs Sam Gilbert vs Sam fisher
 
I'd go with Goodes simply based upon his late season form in which he played mostly forward and towelled up against some very good teams. And i dont see much more improvement from O'Keefe after he joined the midfield last year and i expect to see him tagged more this year.

Pavlich vs Robert Murphy
and
Chad Cornes vs Sam Gilbert vs Sam fisher

Pavlich

Fisher


Cotchin or Masten?

Kreuzer or Tippett?
 
Masten is ready to make that next step to elite. Will average 90ish. And Tippett and kreuz are very even, I would go Tippett just for his duel positioning.

Dangerfield and Nahas v Tippet/Gray and Walker/Salter

Tippett and Gray. Nahas, Walker and Salter aren't high on my list at all. Tippett should explode this year, with natural improvement and Adelaide's improvement, and Gray moving into the midfield looks likely to yield a large ppg increase as well.

Bernie Vince v Brent Prismall

Both look set to increase their averages, but who will increase it by more?
 
Masten is ready to make that next step to elite. Will average 90ish. And Tippett and kreuz are very even, I would go Tippett just for his duel positioning.

I'm not sure I share your confidence in Masten's scoring.

Kerr only ever scored in the early 90's once. His next best score is 80. What makes you think that Masten can jump to Kerr's best level in his third year ?

Also, last year Masten amassed 38 disposals in one game for a DT score of 101. In another 29 possession game he scored 88. In 22 and 25 possession games he scored 66 and 76 respectively. Like everything he went against that trend a couple of times also.

I'm just not convinced his game is great for DT. And I really doubt he'll average over 80.
 
I'm not sure I share your confidence in Masten's scoring.

Kerr only ever scored in the early 90's once. His next best score is 80. What makes you think that Masten can jump to Kerr's best level in his third year ?

Also, last year Masten amassed 38 disposals in one game for a DT score of 101. In another 29 possession game he scored 88. In 22 and 25 possession games he scored 66 and 76 respectively. Like everything he went against that trend a couple of times also.

I'm just not convinced his game is great for DT. And I really doubt he'll average over 80.

They are fairly average scores considering the ball he was getting. That also could be a confidence issue tho. If he was lacking confidence he would be more likley to handball it off rather than kick it. WHich could be a reflection of these poor scores.

Personally for about 30 k extra im liking Dalzeill. Proved he is a ball magnet and if he has a big NAB cup he will be very tempting. Mastern and Dalziell will both be 2 im watching very closly in the NAB
 
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