players names on the back of guernseys

[Costa fc]

Good pick up. Thanks mate. Who knows, names on jumpers might even help me overcome my shocking spelling.

 

[Liam Boy]

Would have been good if you used ACTUAL players names in your "mock up" Although there is no "Trengrove" who plays for Melbourne your point is taken.

Did you even read it before you assumed it was misspelled?

edit: Oh, and why didn't they go for 9 - Swallow? He's the captain now.

 

[Costa fc]

Cheers Liam Boy, but a_fighting_fury is right. I had a second R in there. I've saved over the old img - that's why you can't see the original pic.

 

[Ronnie Baby]

Again, if you want a name on your jumper get the club to heat press one on.

Issue solved.

 

[Butler]

Issue solved.

Not really. I know i would prefer to have my jumper looking the same as the players.

I honestly can not see how people can have a problem with it. It's not as if it is changing the game or going to put anyone off watching AFL.

 

[Cohzee]

The lazy side of me loves the idea but despite winning most battles, it loses this time.

Not being spoon-fed information means that if I want to know who a player is, I learn who a player is. Which means I actually remember the player for something specific, something worth remembering them for. I actually know who the player is. I feel like I have some right to judge their ability.

With names on the back all that is shat on. I would be able to see a player do something, see who it is and judge them. Can you imagine BigFooty if it were so easy to identify players?

Plus it individualises players too much. This is a team sport with 22 players per team, per game. You can't tear a game apart in the AFL the same as someone can tear apart an NBA game.

Plus all that other stuff people said before me.

 

[Butler]

The lazy side of me loves the idea but despite winning most battles, it loses this time.

Not being spoon-fed information means that if I want to know who a player is, I learn who a player is. Which means I actually remember the player for something specific, something worth remembering them for. I actually know who the player is. I feel like I have some right to judge their ability.

With names on the back all that is shat on. I would be able to see a player do something, see who it is and judge them. Can you imagine BigFooty if it were so easy to identify players?

Plus it individualises players too much. This is a team sport with 22 players per team, per game. You can't tear a game apart in the AFL the same as someone can tear apart an NBA game.

Plus all that other stuff people said before me.

People look far too into it. Information on players is spoon-fed to almost anyone. Papers, News, internet, forums, commentators, etc etc all spoon feed information to people.

I don't see how you can possibly judge a player differently because you find out their name easier. For starters if you're watching a game on tele then the commentators will more times than not say his name and if you are at the game then the AFL record is there to find out who it is.

At a guess i would say BigFooty would be exactly the same.

Plenty of team sports have names on their back. Works fine for them. Individuals already get recognised in our game so no difference.

 

[Cohzee]

People look far too into it. Information on players is spoon-fed to almost anyone. Papers, News, internet, forums, commentators, etc etc all spoon feed information to people.

I don't see how you can possibly judge a player differently because you find out their name easier. For starters if you're watching a game on tele then the commentators will more times than not say his name and if you are at the game then the AFL record is there to find out who it is.

At a guess i would say BigFooty would be exactly the same.

Plenty of team sports have names on their back. Works fine for them. Individuals already get recognised in our game so no difference.

I completely agree.

I would love it if players had their names clearly labelled but I feel that it would cheapen my experience. Despite that I would introduce it if it were my decision to make.

 

[PP34]

Unlike other sports AFL stadiums are much bigger. You can hardly read the players numbers at the MCG. Trying to read small writing would be impossible. Just buy a record.

 

[krisholio14]

Apart from the individual nature of names on jumpers, it's also a 360 game on a large oval (as opposed to the majority of other sports that use them), so their use would not be as useful or effective as they are in other sports anyway.

I'm sick of this discussion bobbing up every six months.

Any issue with just leaving things as is?

 

[krisholio14]

That makes no sense. The sentimental value in handing down a jumper number to a younger player doesn't change even if the player's name is also on the jumper.

Having another players name that isn't Hird on the number 5 jumper wouldn't change anything. It's still the number 5 Essendon jumper...

Crap. In the sports with names on jumpers, they retire that number after a franchise legend has worn it.

 

[arkie]

The AFL is not comparable to the NBA or NFL in merchandise sales in any way shape or form. Even if the sports aren't global, the sales are. The most nondescript NBA and NFL teams probably make as much in jersey sales by themselves as the entire AFL combined. I'm generalising, but I'd imagine that the majority of people who have rushed out and bought a Lin jersey also have some assortment of Griffin/James/Garnett/Wade/Howard/Durant/Bryant/Nash/Rose/Nowitzki/Jordan jerseys all in their wardrobe too. Now, how many AFL supporters would buy guernseys of star players from an assortment of clubs like that? What does that tell you? The USA has 28 states which are not represented in the NBA and 29 which are not represented by the NFL. The NBA and NFL are about the star players; the AFL is about the teams.

So I guess I watched the Bills suck all season for the star players.

Anyway, this wasn't my point. All I was saying was that having the names on the AFL jumpers would mean more profit for AFL clubs. I'm not saying Carlton fans are going to start buying a Swan Collingwood jumper. Say a club picks up a big name player in a trade, FA or gets the best player in the draft would see an increase in sales IMO.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

Or, supporters would assume that the star player will be gone somewhere else within three years and just buy a club polo shirt or something.

 

[crazywildhorse]

This is one of those ******ed things that the AFL will incorporate in the future.

Men must meddle and corporations must make money.

May be we should have a poll to see how many would buy an opposition team's jersey for the name on the back.

 

[Cohzee]

So what are the arguments against?

 

[Hand]

i won't be happy at all if the AFL introduces this

 

[Covertackle]

great idea. it'll speed up the identification of players for new fans of the sport, and for kids.

excellent opportunities for merchandising.

its a no brainer. i dont know why the AFL isnt marketing their players names already....?


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[Huge Footy]

Speed up identification for kids?
When I was a kid, I knew all the Saints numbers.
Now I would struggle to reach 75%.
Kids are proud when they know all the numbers.
Names on the back may make them lazy.

I vote no names.

Next you will want a stadium with a retractable roof .

 

[E92_]

great idea. it'll speed up the identification of players for new fans of the sport, and for kids.

I don't see how it would speed up identification, at the ground you would be too far away to read the names and on TV the camera is almost always side on and zoomed out, TV viewers also have the commentators to tell you pleyer names.

 

[Butler]

I would definitely buy other teams jumpers if names were on the back in the AFL.

O'Meara would be the first. Others i would get eventually are Coniglio, Pendlebury, Hurley, Martin and Cotchin. Then again i do watch a lot of footy and not just my own team so others will most likely be different.

Imagine buying an opposition jumper like Hird for example. He retires and you then have the jumper of Stanton..

 

[Lets Roar like '44]

Imagine buying an opposition jumper like Hird for example. He retires and you then have the jumper of Stanton..

Dont have to imagine, its been happening forever, dont know anyone who has had a problem with it.

What happens if you have WCE Judd number 3 jumper and he leaves? Imagine walking around with Judd on your back.

The only people that want this are probably all 12 anyway and think it's "cool". Go spend your money on trading cards or something.

 

[Butler]

Dont have to imagine, its been happening forever, dont know anyone who has had a problem with it.

What happens if you have WCE Judd number 3 jumper and he leaves? Imagine walking around with Judd on your back.

The only people that want this are probably all 12 anyway and think it's "cool". Go spend your money on trading cards or something.

Please. Just because people aren't afraid of change doesn't mean they are 12 and think it is "cool". That's just a rubbish call.

If i buy a jumper that has a number on the back it is because of the player. If that player leaves or retire and someone else takes over that number i would rather keep the name. So yes, if i had a Judd number 3 when he left then i would want to keep it. Same thing happens in the NBA when their players get traded.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

Please. Just because people aren't afraid of change doesn't mean they are 12 and think it is "cool". That's just a rubbish call.

If i buy a jumper that has a number on the back it is because of the player. If that player leaves or retire and someone else takes over that number i would rather keep the name. So yes, if i had a Judd number 3 when he left then i would want to keep it. Same thing happens in the NBA when their players get traded.

Seen many Cleveland LeBron or Denver Carmelo jerseys being worn around the place recently? Whether you keep them or not is irrelevant. You can't wear them. If the player leaves and you still wear his guernsey to games the next season, you look like a guy who's been dumped by his girlfriend three months ago and still has a profile picture of them together on his Facebook.

 

[Big_Luch]

I prefer players to play for the name on the front...not the name on the back.

 

[ManWithNoName]

If you showed up to a WC v Carlton game with a WC #3 jumper with "Judd" on the back you would look like the single biggest tool in the history of the universe.