Players That Smoke

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eddie betts cant even figure out how stupid his shorts look on national tv every week,
not sure drunk at a bar he'd have much idea what he looks like with rapper hand signals, a dart and lance whitnall

I think that's actually Mitch Robinson in that photo.
 

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I'm surprised noone has mentioned Cam Mooney. Makes no secret of it.
 
Fyfe would still have to show ID if he tried to buy smokes :p

Doesn't seem like the type to. Also, it's his second AFL years and he's 19 or 20, wouldn't the medical staff forbid them? Can they still stunt your growth at that age?
 
Plenty would smoke, football players aren't the smartest group of people to be completely honest and most people who take up smoking these days knowing the health risks and how much money is wasted doing it fall in the same group of people.
 
Was at a pub in Fiztroy and North Melbournes Mad Monday ( or Mad sunday as it was, due to Brad Scott was to meet the players on the Tuesday) was taking place.

Josh Gibson, spent more time outside smoking then with the rest of them, granted they were doing jager bombs without their shirts on, fair call from Josh.
 
when i was in high school, i went to a house party and i look over at some guys on a sofa and there was a shaggy haird gary ablett smoking bongs...... no joke

i didnt think much of it then because he was in his first season.
 
The Juddster used to punch out billies behind the shelter shed at Caulfield Grammar in his VCE days
 

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Adam Pattison used to love a dart, the Carlton boys also love a dart here and there, head out to Club Retro on Londsdale street on a Saturday night and you can catch Waite and the other Carlton boys puffing away.
 
Even if that was true, how is that particular drug a performance enhancing one?

Kids jump on it and dance away the night for 10 hours without stopping whereas usually they would be buggered after an hour. Work it out
 
Kids jump on it and dance away the night for 10 hours without stopping whereas usually they would be buggered after an hour. Work it out

I often dance for hours at time when I'm out on weekends. I've never so much as had a beer in my life, and would class myself as pretty unfit in terms of any sort of endurance activity. It's hardly taxing stuff that would have you "buggered after an hour" without the "help" of drugs.

I refuse to believe that the "benefits" of recreational drugs outweight the negatives when it comes to football or any athletic event. There's been far more cases of sportmen going downhill due to recreational drug use than there ever has been of them improving while on the drugs. From our game, those that tried to spin Ben Cousins' drug use (and now what you're implying about Swan) into a performance enhancement angle constantly negelected to acknowledge that his work ethic was one of the strongest that this game has seen. You've still got to be willing and able to do the work to get fitter, to allow you to play better. Drugs don't instill work ethic, and I strongly doubt these particular drugs would be of significant advantage to anything athletically, especially when you factor in the decision-making and recovery side of things.

I challenge anyone to significantly improve their fitness and emulate Cousins' (or Swan's) work ethic while being addicted to recreational drugs, or even a regular recreational drug user. If you don't already have that inner drive to do so, you'll never do it. Cousins (and Swan, if he is indeed a regular drug user, which I don't know) simply worked harder than anyone else. Whether the motivation for him was winning a Premiership or the piles of drugs at the end of the rainbow, it shouldn't make a difference. He still put in the work to get the most out of himself.
 
Kids jump on it and dance away the night for 10 hours without stopping whereas usually they would be buggered after an hour. Work it out

Pity the body doesn't heal properly when on rubbish like that and it also can lower the immune system as well. It's also going to hamper their judgement and decision making, which would cancel out any performance boost they got from it. Not to mention that after the game instead of going to any recovery/training sessions they'd most likely be monged out on the couch smoking bongs and playing Xbox. I won't even touch on the addiction and mental damage side of things. Last thing any professional athlete in their right mind would ever do is use recreational drugs such as the one implied to improve performance.
 
I often dance for hours at time when I'm out on weekends. I've never so much as had a beer in my life, and would class myself as pretty unfit in terms of any sort of endurance activity. It's hardly taxing stuff that would have you "buggered after an hour" without the "help" of drugs.

I refuse to believe that the "benefits" of recreational drugs outweight the negatives when it comes to football or any athletic event. There's been far more cases of sportmen going downhill due to recreational drug use than there ever has been of them improving while on the drugs. From our game, those that tried to spin Ben Cousins' drug use (and now what you're implying about Swan) into a performance enhancement angle constantly negelected to acknowledge that his work ethic was one of the strongest that this game has seen. You've still got to be willing and able to do the work to get fitter, to allow you to play better. Drugs don't instill work ethic, and I strongly doubt these particular drugs would be of significant advantage to anything athletically, especially when you factor in the decision-making and recovery side of things.

I challenge anyone to significantly improve their fitness and emulate Cousins' (or Swan's) work ethic while being addicted to recreational drugs, or even a regular recreational drug user. If you don't already have that inner drive to do so, you'll never do it. Cousins (and Swan, if he is indeed a regular drug user, which I don't know) simply worked harder than anyone else. Whether the motivation for him was winning a Premiership or the piles of drugs at the end of the rainbow, it shouldn't make a difference. He still put in the work to get the most out of himself.

Agreed. If anyone would care to read Ben Cousins book they'll see that his drug habit was hardly performance enhancing. He had to work harder than ever to compensate for the effect of the binges.
 
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