Draft Expert PMBangers' (and ‘friends’) 2022 Draft Board

[Mofra]

Cadman is definitely in the hyper agile Jeremy Cameron/Charlie Curnow basket.


Getting 15-20 touches consistently as a key forward will appeal to recruiters.

Gotta be a smoky for North's pick (post-Ashcroft bid).

 

[TDS7]

Gotta be a smoky for North's pick (post-Ashcroft bid).

If they are worried out of Wardlaw, they'll take Tsatas is my call. North need outside run and he's produced from the outside just as good as anyone. With his recent performances, I can only hope Sheezel is slipping down the ranks to the Hawks but without any midfield time in his past two games I can't see North reaching for him. Cadman is great, but not quite the production or upside of Tsatas after his return from injury.

 

[PMBangers]

If they are worried out of Wardlaw, they'll take Tsatas is my call. North need outside run and he's produced from the outside just as good as anyone. With his recent performances, I can only hope Sheezel is slipping down the ranks to the Hawks but without any midfield time in his past two games I can't see North reaching for him. Cadman is great, but not quite the production or upside of Tsatas after his return from injury.

I still rate Wardlaw as my number 1, but I think with LDU's explosion in the second half of the season, and projecting JHFs development as a aimilarly strong centre square player, Tsatas probably does fit them better now given he'd likely be mostly a receiver for them.

It gets suggested every year, but this is probably the year to try and trade the top pick if suitors are around, North would benefit from someone in the 22-25 agre bracket + another top 5 Pick more than just one junior in an even group

 

[the big lebowski]

I still rate Wardlaw as my number 1, but I think with LDU's explosion in the second half of the season, and projecting JHFs development as a aimilarly strong centre square player, Tsatas probably does fit them better now given he'd likely be mostly a receiver for them.

It gets suggested every year, but this is probably the year to try and trade the top pick if suitors are around, North would benefit from someone in the 22-25 agre bracket + another top 5 Pick more than just one junior in an even group

Maybe. And the top 5 or so do seem very even, all with upside but also with question marks.

But for me we have two clear holes, other than a young developing KPD. That is explosive and sustained outside run (Tsatas) and another developing KPF. If we can fill one of those holes with elite talent I expect and hope that we do that.

The Ashcroft bid takes a little pressure off too.

 

[Chris25]

Cadman is definitely in the hyper agile Jeremy Cameron/Charlie Curnow basket.

Along with the likes of other agile KPFs in Harry Himmelberg and Nathan Kreuger.

I like Aaron Cadman. I think he'd be a good fit for North, and I'd advocate for GWS to take him with their first too. But I think one of his biggest strengths is his high floor compared to other KPPs. Might not become a star, but I'd back him to have a good career even if it's as a #2 forward. I do think Jeremy Cameron is a fair comparison, stylistically at least. But he doesn't have the same skills that makes Cameron dangerous up the ground. A Jeremy Cameron lite.

 

[Mattman93]

Can someone help me see what I'm supposed to be seeing in Tsatas? Hard to argue with the numbers, but, I dunno, everytime I watch him I'm just...unconvinced.

I see a receiver type who runs more one way than the other, has an albeit impressive knack of getting the ball and carrying it, and doesn't do anything particularly remarkable with it.

No one gonna help a blind man see? PMBangers eDPS Chris25 maybe?

I just find Tsatas to be an interesting case. From the matches I've watched, I can't see how anyone would pass up Sheezel in favour of him, for example, and at this point I'd even be more contented if WC reached hard for someone like Humphrey or MacKenzie (a favourite of mine).

But again, I feel I must have a blind spot here.

 

[GWS Goose]

No one gonna help a blind man see? PMBangers eDPS Chris25 maybe?

I just find Tsatas to be an interesting case. From the matches I've watched, I can't see how anyone would pass up Sheezel in favour of him, for example, and at this point I'd even be more contented if WC reached hard for someone like Humphrey or MacKenzie (a favourite of mine).

But again, I feel I must have a blind spot here.

I'm a bit the same.
Plenty know more than me, but I reckon both Sheezel and Wardlaw are clearly better choices than Tsastas.
5 years on, I might be proven wrong, but in my mind, at this stage he sits behind them.

 

[citizen-erased]

Of the 3 I think Cadman is the one most likely to be able to consistently impact in games due to the fact he gets up the ground more, sort of like how Cameron will start playing as a link up player when he's not getting a lot of the ball deep, but there's not a lot of difference stylistically in them as all are predominantly lead up forwards that can win it at ground level as well.

I've been a big Cadman fan all year, buy I don't think he's got that level of dominance to go before a Tsatas or Wardlaw at Pick 2 yet, if he came out and tore up the Metro v Country game I'd understand the argument a bit more though. What he does have on his side in comparison to Sheezel, Wardlaw and Tsatas for that pick is the fact he's been injury free this year and hasn't really had a "quiet" game, but I think clubs will more than likely back their S&C staff to look after the injury issues anyway

Can see essendon grabbing cadman if gws dont

And we'll use next year to load up the midfield. Particularly if parish goes and we've got two very sharp picks.

For gws, fact there will be later picks for mids to replace taranto, bruhn and maybe Hopper (plus a decent remaining midfield as is), and a potential hogan/cadman combo being appealing.

 

[Giant Strides]

For gws, fact there will be later picks for mids to replace taranto, bruhn and maybe Hopper (plus a decent remaining midfield as is), and a potential hogan/cadman combo being appealing.

I hope so.

 

[PMBangers]

No one gonna help a blind man see? PMBangers eDPS Chris25 maybe?

I just find Tsatas to be an interesting case. From the matches I've watched, I can't see how anyone would pass up Sheezel in favour of him, for example, and at this point I'd even be more contented if WC reached hard for someone like Humphrey or MacKenzie (a favourite of mine).

But again, I feel I must have a blind spot here.

I'm a bit the same.
Plenty know more than me, but I reckon both Sheezel and Wardlaw are clearly better choices than Tsastas.
5 years on, I might be proven wrong, but in my mind, at this stage he sits behind them.

Idk what you want, if you've watched him and don't like him there's not much more to it

 

[GWS Goose]

Idk what you want, if you've watched him and don't like him there's not much more to it

I think he is good, just think that Sheezel and Wardlaw look better.

 

[PMBangers]

I think he is good, just think that Sheezel and Wardlaw look better.

Same

 

[Mattman93]

Idk what you want, if you've watched him and don't like him there's not much more to it

ok cool

 

[Chris25]

I’d say there’d be a couple of reasons a team would pick Tsatas over Sheezel.

Maybe they want someone who offers some speed and run. Or maybe they just want a midfielder, not a half forward.

 

[Matty411]

I get Jack Macrae vibes from Tsatas and think with the right environment, he could blossom just as quickly.

Sheezel could be the best out of the lot or a bit of a bust/mediocre guy like Stephenson. Huge potential but the right/wrong club is more important to his development, I feel, than Tsatas.

 

[Davo-27]

No one gonna help a blind man see? PMBangers eDPS Chris25 maybe?

I just find Tsatas to be an interesting case. From the matches I've watched, I can't see how anyone would pass up Sheezel in favour of him, for example, and at this point I'd even be more contented if WC reached hard for someone like Humphrey or MacKenzie (a favourite of mine).

But again, I feel I must have a blind spot here.

i agree Tsatas disposal isnt as good as it should be, but his weight of numbers and the amount of contests he gets to through work rate and his speed as well as there being a general lack of quality disposal in the AFL recently all point to a guy who could be very successful in the top League, Humphrey's disposal isnt as good as it could be also, especially in front of goal, but we all love how he moves and hits a contest, for me as long as they arent greedy or have terrible disposal, i think its not as important as people say, i do agree outside players should have better disposal as they are the ones finding space and you need them to be more surgical with disposal, but i've seen players improve in certain areas to become better players, whether through skill improvement or decision making improvement at AFL clubs.

 

[RanaNaved]

Also with Tsatas, the streams do not convey well, how explosive an athlete he is, or his size.

He's going to be winning the ball at stoppages on the fly and driving his team forwards. He can get the ball at HB and moments later it'll be inside 50. Similar to Danger, Petracca and Bolton in that regard.

 

[PMBangers]

Also with Tsatas, the streams do not convey well, how explosive an athlete he is, or his size.

He's going to be winning the ball at stoppages on the fly and driving his team forwards. He can get the ball at HB and moments later it'll be inside 50. Similar to Danger, Petracca and Bolton in that regard.

Yeah the explosiveness makes a lot of the shortcomings more acceptable for me, I'd hazard a guess he's got better burst and top speed than any midfielder in the league currently tbh. As long as majority of his kicks aren't direct turnovers he's still hurting the opposition

 

[PocketRocket08]

I get Jack Macrae vibes from Tsatas and think with the right environment, he could blossom just as quickly.

Sheezel could be the best out of the lot or a bit of a bust/mediocre guy like Stephenson. Huge potential but the right/wrong club is more important to his development, I feel, than Tsatas.

Sheezel to Stephenson probably the worst comparison ever!!

 

[Chris25]

Sheezel to Stephenson probably the worst comparison ever!!

Except it wasn’t a player comparison. It was a risk/reward comparison. And it’s not unfair - Stephenson had some of the most dominant U18 games I’ve seen. 30 touches and multiple goals. Same as Sheezel. And now Stephenson is struggling to nail down one position (for many different reasons). It’s possible Sheezel could fall into a similar situation.

 

[GUMBLETRON]

If there's risk with Sheezel it's for very different reasons than Stephenson.

 

[Chris25]

If there's risk with Sheezel it's for very different reasons than Stephenson.

I’m not saying they’re the same. And it’s the problem with involving a known product, because I do think there are other things at play with Stephenson.

But I think there is a similar question in what is Sheezel? Talented and doing what he wants at U18 level. But does it translate and if so, in what position? I’m not sure he’s a midfielder. So you do take a half forward top 3…

 

[Dewyyyyy]

I get Jack Macrae vibes from Tsatas and think with the right environment, he could blossom just as quickly.

Sheezel could be the best out of the lot or a bit of a bust/mediocre guy like Stephenson. Huge potential but the right/wrong club is more important to his development, I feel, than Tsatas.

Tsatas is very much more like McCluggage.

 

[The Kaiser Chief]

Tsatas is very much more like McCluggage.

It would be interesting to see the disposal efficiency out of the NAB league and other competitions around the country. I wonder if they keep these sort of statistics?
Nick Daicos has set himself apart from his peers with his outstaning ball use

 

[Matty411]

Tsatas is very much more like McCluggage.

Yeah, I'll pay that. Either way - can't go wrong!