Yep Beazley would have been every chance to beat Abbott/ Turnbull I think. He and shoulders above Gillard and Rudd and Latham IMO. Just leader at the wrong time.
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Yep Beazley would have been every chance to beat Abbott/ Turnbull I think. He and shoulders above Gillard and Rudd and Latham IMO. Just leader at the wrong time.
#Newspoll Preferred PM: Turnbull 64 (+3) Shorten 15 (-3) #auspol
#Newspoll Shorten: Approve 26 (-1) Disapprove 57 (0) #auspol
#Newspoll Turnbull: Approve 60 (+4) Disapprove 22 (-2) #auspol
#Newspoll Federal Primary Votes: L/NP 46 (0) ALP 33 (-1) GRN 11 (+1) #auspol
#Newspoll Federal 2 Party Preferred: L/NP 53 (0) ALP 47 (0) #auspol
#Newspoll Shorten: Approve 26 (-1) Disapprove 57 (0) #auspol
#Newspoll Turnbull: Approve 60 (+4) Disapprove 22 (-2) #auspol
#Newspoll Federal Primary Votes: L/NP 46 (0) ALP 33 (-1) GRN 11 (+1) #auspol
#Newspoll Federal 2 Party Preferred: L/NP 53 (0) ALP 47 (0) #auspol
Too late for labour now, they had their chance. A 15 point preferred pm must be approaching records if it hasn't already taken it.
I don't know what labour were thinking would happen; once Turnbull took over this was completley predictable. Ah well, they obviously need the extended break to do some soul searching.
I don't know what labour were thinking would happen; once Turnbull took over this was completley predictable. Ah well, they obviously need the extended break to do some soul searching.
Well keep malcs in power as long as he delivers on purging the libs of the feather duster hard right
talking tough when they are really spineless shits
They need the freedom to bomb civilians to.........prevent civilisns being bombed ?
talking tough when they are really spineless shits
They need the freedom to bomb civilians to.........prevent civilisns being bombed ?
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Turbull is riding high on the Not-Abbott factor and Abbott is being helpful by pointing out how Not-Abbott he is, that along with his expert level Pollywaffle and the media's love affair with works really well in the Polls. Because the Australian public cares little for details and Malcolm provides all the right reassuring bullshit.
The hardest thing for Labor to do is hold back. Once there is blood in the air they can't help themselves.
Bill Shorten loves the smell of blood except maybe his own.
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Interesting reading the state of the polls.
Morgan: 56-44
Ipsos: 56-44
Newspoll: 53-47
Essential: 52-48.
Morgan: 56-44
Ipsos: 56-44
Newspoll: 53-47
Essential: 52-48.
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Well unfortunately the current alternative is the same old Labor with the same egos and the same lowest common denominator politics. And I'm no dye in the wool LNP man.
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Latest ReachTEL figures
Primaries:
L/NP: 48.8 (+2.1)
ALP: 31.1 (-1.9)
GRN: 11.2 (-0.1)
Two Party Preferred:
L/NP 55 (+2)
ALP 45 (-2)
Approval/Disapproval:
Turnbull: 48.2 (+0.6) / 14.8 (-1.3)
Shorten: 20.6 (-2.3) / 47.5 (+1.2)
Preferred PM:
Turnbull: 71.3 (+2.4)
Shorten: 28.7 (-2.4)
When it comes to national security who do you feel safer with as Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull or Tony Abbott?
Turnbull: 74%(67.9% of L/NP voters, 82.4% of ALP voters, 89% of Greens voters, 67.9% of other voters)
Abbott: 26% (32.1% of L/NP voters, 17.7% of ALP voters, 11% of Greens voters, 32.1% of other voters)
Primaries:
L/NP: 48.8 (+2.1)
ALP: 31.1 (-1.9)
GRN: 11.2 (-0.1)
Two Party Preferred:
L/NP 55 (+2)
ALP 45 (-2)
Approval/Disapproval:
Turnbull: 48.2 (+0.6) / 14.8 (-1.3)
Shorten: 20.6 (-2.3) / 47.5 (+1.2)
Preferred PM:
Turnbull: 71.3 (+2.4)
Shorten: 28.7 (-2.4)
When it comes to national security who do you feel safer with as Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull or Tony Abbott?
Turnbull: 74%(67.9% of L/NP voters, 82.4% of ALP voters, 89% of Greens voters, 67.9% of other voters)
Abbott: 26% (32.1% of L/NP voters, 17.7% of ALP voters, 11% of Greens voters, 32.1% of other voters)
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Personality politics wins the day Turnbull pushes the same shit policy as his predecessor, but he can string two words together without causing a diplomatic incident, and Australians fall at his feet. These people are doubtlessly the ones who voted for Abbott in 2013 expecting him to keep his word on what he promised in his campaign, and be the consensus PM that he was obviously never capable of being.
Honestly, how could you possibly know what Wayne Swan wants?
The people spitting the dummy at the electorate for Turnbull's popularity is hilarious. Labour fronted a dud and stick by him. It's not the electorates fault that they failed to put forward a competent leader.
It's like watching a diector yell at the audiance for not liking his play. It brings more comfort to think it's the world that's at fault I guess.
It's like watching a diector yell at the audiance for not liking his play. It brings more comfort to think it's the world that's at fault I guess.
Turnbull led LNP will absolutely sh*t it in at next year's election, as predicted.
Interesting what a semi-coherent and "Prime Ministerial" figure has been able to do on the back of the hell hole of the past 8 years.
Interesting what a semi-coherent and "Prime Ministerial" figure has been able to do on the back of the hell hole of the past 8 years.
Agreed. Even Wayne doesn't know what he wants, or what day of the week it is.
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Nar. I just think voters are plonkers.
Abbott was unlikeable and owned bad policy. Turnbull is less personality defficient, and hides his parties agenda of the sameish poor policy. This is enough.
Labors issue isn't policy, it's simply that Shorten is not as appealing a character as waffles.
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It depends on perspective. If you accept that all that matters is the likeability of the parties head, then that is fine.
If you consider policy and personell outside the party heads to be important, then it is easy to be frustrated. Labor bear some responsibility, but really it is fair to be critical of voters if all that matters is style.
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Performance and articulation are two seperate issues. Turnbull has the same broad agenda because it is the parties agenda
