Port Adelaide Football

[FishingRick04]

Just on that, I read this morning that Port are going to try Brogan as a resting forward (good luck with that) at least in the trial games. Buddha Hocking went on to say that we'll see what other teams are doing with their resting rucks before deciding how best to use Brogan.

Even at the micro-level with such a specific decision, we are looking to see what others are doing and following.

Ford I agree with your opening sentiment and with this response. Choco started this mentaility and it's flowed on since then. It too makes me sick. Ok a few things may be copied which are easily converted into our existing gameplan, but let's have our own.

We have become spinless and lack vision.

Please prove me wrong please.

 

[tribey]

It's a fair enough concept Fr0d.

Wouldn't have minded seeing a sort of Royal Commission into the State of the Port Adelaide Union with the overdue purging of Williams.

An inquest into everything wrong with the club from the top down and recommendations as to what can be done to save the sinking ship.

The snap apeing of flavour of the month gameplans, the increasingly bizarro recruiting and list management, the persistent psychological defects in the playing group pertaining to the abject surrender of healthy 4-10 goal leads - specifically against clubs such as Brisbane, Carlton and Richmond.

Port Adelaide was known for ruthlessness in the unwavering pursuit of excellence - to the point where it has Caesar'd its greatest legends.

In the past 5-6 years failure hasn't just become accepted, it's expected.

Why?

More Port Adelaide and less Glenelg plz.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Quality OP, agree completely.

 

[Forzaport]

I'm not against taking ideas from the best sides, but I loathe us continually playing catch-up.

Primus seems to be going for a more direct, basic football gameplan. Hopefully he sticks to it and doesn't get tempted to duplicate the collingwood model.

 

[Portology]

What's left of our football reputation still brings out 'bad memories' for some, eg this in today's bAdvertiser:

"Wrath sounds like someone who should be playing back pocket for Port Adelaide"
-Tim Rogers, at his 2011 Adelaide Fringe show. He's a big North Melbourne supporter.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Matty's biggest job isn't to turn around the onfield issues we've been having, it's to turn around the entire club. Stop accepting mediocrity, stop accepting anything less than 100% and the results will follow.

We brought out the Creed a few years back at the height of the seperation from what Port Adelaide football was and what Port Adelaide football should have been. We put it away very quickly when we realised we were regularly disgracing it.

I don't want to see a big marketing campaign, but a copy of the creed should be stapled to every locker.

Also, no more press releases about what we're going to do. After a bad loss, I don't want to ever see Dom or some young kid or whoever trotted out infront of the media to tell them how disappointed we are with our performance and how we're doing everything we can to turn it around. Less talk, more action, but talk without action is as bad as it gets.

 

[Quadzilla]

Also, no more press releases about what we're going to do. After a bad loss, I don't want to ever see Dom or some young kid or whoever trotted out infront of the media to tell them how disappointed we are with our performance and how we're doing everything we can to turn it around. Less talk, more action, but talk without action is as bad as it gets.

Trouble is being in Adelaide a win or loss is news for both teams - we would be expected to have some-one front the media ... just need it worked better after any loss then "we are ashamed, line in sand, more effort, ... yada, yada ..."

 

[Phhht]

Trouble is being in Adelaide a win or loss is news for both teams - we would be expected to have some-one front the media ... just need it worked better after any loss then "we are ashamed, line in sand, more effort, ... yada, yada ..."

I understand what you're saying nivek, makes sense in this media hungry world of ours.

But geez I'd like to see someone from the club come out and front the media with...Sorry the players and coaches are too embarrassed to front the fans after another inept performance.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

The time is nigh. The day is at hand. Port Adelaide are home. Make us believe.

Port Adelaide Football. Live it. Breathe it.

 

[Portia]

I just hope someone will Play It.

 

[Macca19]

Cant ****ing wait!

 

[Quadzilla]

I just hope someone will Play It.

... and 30k minimum Watch IT!

 

[PJ Power]

What is it with this group and big occasions?

 

[Ford Fairlane]

The rebirth of Port Adelaide Football under this bunch of nuffies is now Lazarus with a triple bypass material.

To think we once lamented Ebert's coaching years as the dark ages. Three finals years including a (losing) Grand Final in five years.

We'd kill for that version of the dark ages now.

 

[PJ Power]

Ford, I think we've just forgotten the basics. The lack of competitiveness in the centre square and stoppages is really concerning. We get to the initial contest and then the football gets run away from us so easily.

I really felt for our backs and to a lesser extent the forwards today.

Brogan and co. are sub-AFL standard at present.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

I think it's worse than that, it's been coached out of them.

Today's game was like them standing on the tracks and watching a freight train coming ... it seems everyone knew what was going to happen but Port.

 

[Minotaur]

Why don't we have more port people around the club?

I'm not as up to history and personality as some of you guys. (Was a Glenelg supporter in the SANFL as a primary school kid in their 80s hey day but was drawn to the fact Port is a proper club).

By why do we have guys like Rhode around? Surely that role could be taken up by a person with a background at a club with a history of winning (i.e Port).

What about Port players from the 80-90s other than Williams - it doesn't seem like any of those guys are around.

Do Jack and Ebert have a role at the club? Skill development for latter sound board for Primus for the former.

I've been thinking about this a bit recently, but I think the reaction to 119 is part of the problem. In the aftermath, the club took a view that it should celebrate the achievement of making the grand final when really the coach and half the team should have been turfed out on the following monday. That was the day medicority was accepted. Someone on the Geelong board put it that Geelong stole Port's manhood - and that is pretty spot on.

That was the day Port accepted it was just an ordinary club akin to St kilda, Richmond or South Adelaide.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

After a couple of false starts it just may be that we have rediscovered Port Adelaide Football being masterfully recreated by Ken Hinkley. He certainly likes the expression.

 

[Eddie Dingle]

After a couple of false starts it just may be that we have rediscovered Port Adelaide Football being masterfully recreated by Ken Hinkley. He certainly likes the expression.

Nice bump of your own thread....

Casual Keith started this.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Back at Alberton, Barry Curtain asked Ken about trying to match the swans playing style and playing swans type football. Ken replied - No, we played Port Adelaide Football today. He got a massive roar from those assembled.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I think this fits here. Dwayne Russell's article on Sunday about football club culture, the old port adelaide way, the new breed, Harry O's problems etc. This might be behind the News Ltd paywall for some so I have copied a big chunk down for posterity.

Get on the bus and buy into the culture of a football club

IT was as a teenager in the early'80s on one of the Port Adelaide Magpies traditional post grand final crabbing days, that I saw it at its most brutal.

After a day of beach cooked crabs and beer, the bus stopped at the Lower Light Hotel for another round.

The honesty between teammates got out of hand and sparked an all-in brawl; Port players against Port players.

Truths were told and few players were spared. I certainly wasn't.

But key on-field and off-field character issues were resolved, and we all got back onto the bus.
There was also a decade where every Christmas eve, current Port director and 7 x premiership player George Fiacchi would put on an afternoon of drinks for past and present players at his sports store.
As each player dribbled in, they would be regaled with a few lines of cold, kind, abuse, reminding them of their flaws.

Every year Jon Simpson would be told he was the softest player ever to wear a Magpies jumper. All because Dermott Brereton kicked seven goals on him in an Escort Cup game we should have won against Hawthorn.

If Simmo was soft, he would not have turned up every year, but he never missed and was a confident enough guy to know we loved him.

Tough, honest, footy club style love is not for everyone, and when you lose a troubled teammate as we did, you stand at the funeral and wonder if you should have been more sympathetic.

Collingwood has trod the fine line between tough love, tolerance, sympathy and understanding with Harry O'Brien for years........

Get on the bus and buy into the culture of a football club

and back at the club it was no different

Buckley himself came through the Port Magpies at the tail end of an era where the cornerstone of the club was it's honesty and accountability system. In the seventies and eighties, after every game; win, lose, or draw; Port players were required to face the hundreds of members in the Alberton social club.

The coach, John Cahill or Russell Ebert, would call every player up on stage one by one, read out their stats, and tell them how they went.

If you played poorly, you were shamed publicly. The coach did not need to say much. The applause, murmurs or silence as you walked on stage told you enough.

Times have changed so much that AFL clubs now hire companies to conduct honesty sessions for them

But the more things change the more they stay the same.

The days of a senior player telling someone over a beer at midnight, that they squibbed it, are almost gone.
Players are now told by teammates behind closed doors in a clinical way, with the help of a trained professional.

As part of the "Stop, Start, Keep" appraisal program, a group is assigned to assess a teammate, and then in front of the whole playing list, that teammate is told what he should "stop" doing, what he should "start" doing and what he should "keep" doing.

....

Geelong premiership captain Cameron Ling also admitted "it's not for everyone. It only works if everyone buys in".

It's not exactly the Lower Light Hotel system any more, but it's still about getting on the bus.

 

[Bob Neil]

I think this fits here. Dwayne Russell's article on Sunday about football club culture, the old port adelaide way, the new breed, Harry O's problems etc.

I actually really enjoyed this article by Dwayne Russell...his anecdote about the players up on stage before the crowd was spot on - nowhere to hide up there!

 

[RangaInTeal]

I think this fits here. Dwayne Russell's article on Sunday about football club culture, the old port adelaide way, the new breed, Harry O's problems etc. This might be behind the News Ltd paywall for some so I have copied a big chunk down for posterity.

Get on the bus and buy into the culture of a football club




Get on the bus and buy into the culture of a football club

and back at the club it was no different





But the more things change the more they stay the same.

This is what my father and his Aunty speak of on a daily basis!

 

[DonDraper]

Those stories are fantastic. Love it

 

[*PAF]

Nice bump of your own thread....

Casual Keith started this.

Casual Ford?