Port Adelaide's plan to use jumpers similar to Collingwood

[Ice-Wolf]

Eddies antics over the uniforms for the 2010 GF is all that you need to know to tell Eddie and Collingwood to go **** themselves over issues of what a club can and can't wear.

Come to think of it that seems like another case of Collingwood making a gentlemen's agreement and then reneging on it when it didn't go there way.

 

[offtherails9]

I'm pretty sure your you enjoyed the extra revenue with all those cat, dog, horse, goat memberships to inflate your membership numbers.

Completely untrue shit gag, nice one bud.

 

[doppleganger]

There was actually a club called the “adelaide football club” that formed in 1860.. ten years prior to the port magpies... now referred to the “old adelaide football club”..

Of course the current adelaide football club has no heritage of its own since 1991.. it didnt exist before then. Maybe they should just claim it and run with.. put “1860” on the back collar of their current guernsey and get all cranky and insecure about it when everyone doesnt recognise it and get up and applaud them for their “heritage”!

As have port power, the eagles, freo, suns etc that didnt have teams in the VFL/AFL...

Why the hell, as one of these teams, would you be classed as having a heritage in the VFL/AFL before your team even started playing in the VFL/AFL..

Maybe in 100 years from now the AFL can revisit a heritage round when there is something for all clubs to celebrate.

So theres little point having an “AFL heritage round”...

And adelaides short lived idea to play in the state of origin guernsey was just dumb.

But, again, all of this means nothing to this conversation..

This is all part of the discussion.

Port trying to leverage the importance of "heritage" as part of latest attempt of wearing the pylons.

Their line is, the Port SANFL heritage is somehow an important part of the AFL showdown....and the pylons should be a permanent part of the Showdowns.

Do Adelaide Crows fans think the Showdowns should involve the pylons? Do they somehow get the link Port are trying to make?

 

[Bearded Clam]

The AFL recognises 1870 as the founding year of the Port Adelaide Football Club. The only people who don't are pea-brained, Twitter-grade dribblers.

Are you now claiming to know better than the AFL?

What are you talking about?.... I reaconise 1870 as the founding year of the port adelaide magpies team in the SANFL league. I have no reason to question that basic fact nor has anyone else..

 

[Pistol Night]

Eddies antics over the uniforms for the 2010 GF is all that you need to know to tell Eddie and Collingwood to go fu** themselves over issues of what a club can and can't wear.

Come to think of it that seems like another case of Collingwood making a gentlemen's agreement and then reneging on it when it didn't go there way.

Yeah the uniforms robbed you that day

 

[Freak Dodgeball Accident]

Got a copy of that agreement to share?

C'mon mate, paperwork goes missing all the time - just ask Dean Wallis.

Love how most of the fluff in here is 'herp derp the Power were happy to crap on their history when they joined the league and now they want to go back and change it'.

But those same people probably don't even realise the bars are in the original logo. So while they're happy to drop the Magpies, the bars are a massive part of the Port Adelaide identity.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Yeah the uniforms robbed you that day

Wow, such insightful commentary. Not sure the relevance of who won or lost or drew the match is to this discussion.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Port Adelaide must end black-and-white guernsey blue: Jackson - InDaily

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No document has been uncovered to show Port Adelaide signed away its rights to wearing black and white in the AFL, as it has done in the State league SANFL since 1902.

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[Alyx]

I reaconise 1870 as the founding year of the port adelaide magpies team in the SANFL league

This is some incredibly low-grade bait.

Twitter-grade, you might say.

 

[Billys Back]

C'mon mate, paperwork goes missing all the time - just ask Dean Wallis.

Love how most of the fluff in here is 'herp derp the Power were happy to crap on their history when they joined the league and now they want to go back and change it'.

But those same people probably don't even realise the bars are in the original logo. So while they're happy to drop the Magpies, the bars are a massive part of the Port Adelaide identity.

As is the arm holding lighning. Why not stick that in the middle of your jumper with a bit of teal to finish it off?

 

[Pistol Night]

Wow, such insightful commentary. Not sure the relevance of who won or lost or drew the match is to this discussion.

Much like your bullshit about a "gentlemans agreement"? Want to elaborate on that seeing as you want insightful commentary?

 

[Billys Back]

The AFL recognises 1870 as the founding year of the Port Adelaide Football Club. The only people who don't are pea-brained, Twitter-grade dribblers.

Are you now claiming to know better than the AFL?

who cares? What did your jumper look like before 1900? Magenta?

"Remarkably, the majority of Port Adelaide Football Club members opposed the change from the "Magentas" when the club had its annual meeting at the Railway Hotel at Port Adelaide on Wednesday, March 26, 1902."

 

[Billys Back]

Does the agreement not say that we would not merchandise Black and White Striped Heritage guernseys? Now, personally I would take that to mean that only the 1951 Premiership guernsey is off the table, and fair enough. What I think that clause really refers to is that if there is a heritage round, we would not merchandise the guernsey we are wearing in that round, and that's it. You cannot stop us from producing merchandise with the old Port Adelaide Magpie logo because the AFL have no rights to it. Producing any merchandise with that logo does not breach any agreement. If Collingwood and its officials had any brains, they would be asking the AFL to allow Port Adelaide to merchandise its SANFL guernsey with the new logo on it. We are selling loads of PBs with the our Magpie logo on it. If you guys are seriously worried about any confusion, this would surely be a greater concern. Yet, here we are selling loads of Magpies gear because Collingwood object to us merchandising our guernsey with the new logo on it.

You're a 'double negative' kind of guy.

And in the same paragraph you then you had to exaggerate sales, didn't you?

 

[bomberclifford]

Do they somehow get the link Port are trying to make?

Of course they do. That's why they're against it.

 

[Bearded Clam]

This is some incredibly low-grade bait.

Twitter-grade, you might say.

I have actually never had a twitter account..

Port adelaide magpies football team was, by all accounts, formed in 1870 and has played in the sanfl league to this day.

Port adelaide’s AFL side was formed in the 1990’s as a seperate entity and first played in the AFL in 1997..

Not sure how these most basic of facts could be disputed..

If anyone here has any drop of evidence of the current port adelaide side playing on a regular basis, prior to 1997, in the VFL/AFL they might want to present it..

As far as history shows the sanfl and the vfl/afl are two completely seperate leagues and trying to somehow claim that that your history in one league can laughably be transfered directly into another is hysterical nonsense..

You’d have to be a complete and utter muppet to think it could.

And, at the same time.. here we are yet again having this conversation side tracks and dragged off topic by power supporters that want to muddy the waters..

 

[longdonkey]

I have actually never had a twitter account..

Port adelaide magpies football team was, by all accounts, formed in 1870 and has played in the sanfl league to this day.

Port adelaide’s AFL side was formed in the 1990’s as a seperate entity and first played in the AFL in 1997..

Not sure how these most basic of facts could be disputed..

If anyone here has any drop of evidence of the current port adelaide side playing on a regular basis, prior to 1997, in the VFL/AFL they might want to present it..

As far as history shows the sanfl and the vfl/afl are two completely seperate leagues and trying to somehow claim that that your history in one league can laughably be transfered directly into another is hysterical nonsense..

You’d have to be a complete and utter muppet to think it could.

And, at the same time.. here we are yet again having this conversation side tracks and dragged off topic by power supporters that want to muddy the waters..

Here you go again - you cannot get past the SANFL DEMANDING us split the club in 1997 as though it was our idea and because that happened then our history is declared null and void.

Complete Bollocks and Port Adelaide is one club and we continue our glorious past into a glorious future in a different league.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Have any bothered to ask chief executive John James to explain why he signed away the club’s rights to merchandising traditional black-and-white gear.....yet the “Never Tear Us Apart” scarves with the Magpies SANFL logo were created breaching the agreement.

Port signed an agreement, but then ignore it and actively breach it...and their fans somehow think this actually helps their position??

See this is where you're completely failing at reading.

You want to get all picky about the semantics of an agreement, well here's some more for you.

It actually says that Port won't a retail line of black-and-white Heritage gear. There's been no Heritage rounds for us to create a retail line for. However, since then Port has sold a limited edition Farewell to Football Park Black and White jumper, we've sold SANFL Merchandise, we've sold a limited edition First Final at Adelaide Oval jumper, and sold a 150th Celebration jumper.

And an SANFL logo has nothing to do with an AFL Heritage retail line. For starters, its SANFL.

Maybe if Collingwood wanted to stop Port selling anything in black and white, then they should've written a better agreement that wasn't limited to blocking a Heritage line.

 

[ameen_ssnp]

I have actually never had a twitter account..

Port adelaide magpies football team was, by all accounts, formed in 1870 and has played in the sanfl league to this day.

Original Port Adelaide FC doesn't exist anymore. Port Magpies and Port Adelaide Power both new entities created in 1996. Port Magpies were absorbed by Power in 2010 now trying to steal their history and pretending to be a club that has existed 150 years.

 

[OnlyPowerForever]

Original Port Adelaide FC doesn't exist anymore. Port Magpies and Port Adelaide Power both new entities created in 1996. Port Magpies were absorbed by Power in 2010 now trying to steal their history and pretending to be a club that has existed 150 years.

Yeah that's as true as the current Adelaide Football Club winning a premiership in the 1800s, as the "museum" would have you believe.

 

[Qwerty71]

Have read a couple of posts in here that suggest the original terms offered to Port to join the AFL in 1990 were a lot more favorable than those eventually agreed to in 1996.

Would be interested if anyone could tell me whether or not Port would have been permitted to wear the bars had they actually joined in 1991, or hadn't the negotiations reached that point yet?

As some of us already know, Port & Collingwood had that trial match in 1993 & both sides were seen in black & white. Curious to know what Port would have worn had they won the license ahead of the Crows.

Not sure if anyone has answered your question or not but the "Heads of Agreement" between the AFL "The Commission" and the Port Adelaide Football Club "Port" states

9. The Commission agrees that Port shall participate in the AFL competition under the name 'Port Adelaide' and with players wearing its existing SANFL playing uniform subject to changing its football socks and changing its Club emblem of "The Magpies" so as to avoid confusion with the uniform and emblem of the Collingwood Football Club and subject to Port adopting an alternative uniform involving minor changes for matches between Port and the Collingwood Football Club, such changes to be approved by the Commission.

There is certainly a lot of BS in this thread with people trying to make claims, points etc. without actually knowing the facts. It's a bit like Trump trying to say he won but not being able to back it up.

 

[gtrxuone]

In the 1982 Escort Cup match Collingwood vs Swan Districts.Both sides tossed to see who would wear there jumper.Swans won and Collingwood wore a black jumper.

 

[BustedWing]

Waiting very patiently

Haven’t forgotten.

Big footy don’t pay the bills, sadly.

Tomorrow is a possibility


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[Enviable Tradition]

Port Adelaide must end black-and-white guernsey blue: Jackson - InDaily

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No document has been uncovered to show Port Adelaide signed away its rights to wearing black and white in the AFL, as it has done in the State league SANFL since 1902.

Port Adelaide must end black-and-white guernsey blue: Jackson - InDaily

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I think this got missed

#inconvenienttruth

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[Powerade 08]

Original Port Adelaide FC doesn't exist anymore. Port Magpies and Port Adelaide Power both new entities created in 1996. Port Magpies were absorbed by Power in 2010 now trying to steal their history and pretending to be a club that has existed 150 years.

 

[OnlyPowerForever]

I have actually never had a twitter account..

Port adelaide magpies football team was, by all accounts, formed in 1870 and has played in the sanfl league to this day.

Port adelaide’s AFL side was formed in the 1990’s as a seperate entity and first played in the AFL in 1997..

Not sure how these most basic of facts could be disputed..

If anyone here has any drop of evidence of the current port adelaide side playing on a regular basis, prior to 1997, in the VFL/AFL they might want to present it..

As far as history shows the sanfl and the vfl/afl are two completely seperate leagues and trying to somehow claim that that your history in one league can laughably be transfered directly into another is hysterical nonsense..

You’d have to be a complete and utter muppet to think it could.

And, at the same time.. here we are yet again having this conversation side tracks and dragged off topic by power supporters that want to muddy the waters..

Make me wonder who won the licence in 1995?
Makes me wonder which Port Adelaide the AFL keep referring to in their occasional look at history.
Hell, makes me wonder who authorised Port Adelaide to wear a Port Adelaide guernsey in Heritage Round?
I mean, if we take the incorporation date of a sporting business as proof, then here some more for you.

Collingwood Football Club Limited: 31 Oct 1983.
Adelaide Football Club Limited: 21 May 1986.