Port Adelaide's plan to use jumpers similar to Collingwood

[Alex09]

Thin edge of the wedge.

Not that thin, I believe they should have the right to be B&W full time. Not much wedge left.

 

[parano1a]

You are correct using the word exact, the Brisbane Maroon/Gold/Blue is vastly different to the Crows Red/Gold/Navy Blue which is vastly different to the Suns Red/Gold/Blue.

Do any of these jumper designs look even remotely similar to you?

 

[ameen_ssnp]

2006 was the final year of the Camry Crows.
They then became the Adelaide Crows. Therefore the Adelaide Crows est 2007 have no Premierships.

Adelaide Crows were founded in 1986 by Martin Bashir, 10 years before Port Power.

 

[OnlyPowerForever]

Thank God for that!! I've still got one or two brain cells left.

Here's some more for you.

Cometti, Blight, Sheahan, Parkin, even Graham Cornes (despite his rants on Adelaide radio this week)

Prison Bars

 

[OnlyPowerForever]

Do any of these jumper designs look even remotely similar to you?
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That's funny - I'm sure you wrote "colors" in your post.

 

[OnlyPowerForever]

Existing clubs share colours, but none have an exact match. Carlton's colour is navy blue, and Geelong's colours are navy blue and white. Similarly, North Melbourne are blue and white, while Western Bulldogs are red, white and blue.

While white features on Carlton's infamous monogram, their only club colour is navy blue.

So Collingwood's colours are Black and White, Port Adelaide's club colour is only Black, on a white background.

 

[parano1a]

That's funny - I'm sure you wrote "colors" in your post.

See the proportions of colours are almost as important as the colours themselves.

Carlton: Navy Blue 95%, White 5%
Geelong: White 60%, Navy Blue 40%

Adelaide: Navy Blue 50%, Red 25%, Yellow 25%
Brisbane: Maroon 75%, Royal Blue 20%, Yellow 5%
Gold Coast: Red 80%, Yellow 20%, Sky Blue 0% (no sky blue in their home strip)

Collingwood is essentially Black 50% White 50% (though this does vary to 60/40 for the home and 40/60 away strips)
Port wants to wear the same colours, same proportion, 80% similar design (vertical stripes)

It's too close to Collingwood's existing design. Add some teal or magenta and it can be considered. Otherwise, just forget it and move on.

 

[Tim Evans Beard]

Adelaide Crows were founded in 1986 by Martin Bashir, 10 years before Port Power.

What is a ‘Martin Bashir’ and what happened to the Adelaide Crows when the Camry Crows were formed?

 

[charcolechaddy]

Exactly.. its hilarious that they actually think anyone cares about their history..

its almost like they are so insecure that they desperately need everyone to all stand up and aplaud them and their history before they can feel comfortable and move on...

Problem they have is in their desperation to have their history recognised they dont realise, or selfishly dont care, that that tramples Collingwoods history... and Collingwood have signoficantly more history in the league.

Port havent even been in it 30 years yet!..

The black and white stripes are The Mighty Collingwood Magpies. There simply cant be two clubs with the black and white.. and port power agreed with this from the very beginning.

Now they selfishly want to backtrack.

You seem to care a lot.

you are a shame to the real bearded clams.

 

[charcolechaddy]

What is a ‘Martin Bashir’ and what happened to the Adelaide Crows when the Camry Crows were formed?

Someone who hates aliens.

 

[Engimal v3]

So Collingwood's colours are Black and White, Port Adelaide's club colour is only Black, on a white background.

That's not what I can see. Port Adelaide's site has plenty of references to the Magpies' colours being black and white.

 

[Tim Evans Beard]

That's not what I can see. Port Adelaide's site has plenty of references to the Magpies' colours being black and white.

So does Wikipedia

 

[Tim Evans Beard]

That's not what I can see. Port Adelaide's site has plenty of references to the Magpies' colours being black and white.

So does any ornithologist text

 

[Engimal v3]

So does Wikipedia

So does any ornithologist text

Please, continue

 

[Tim Evans Beard]

See the proportions of colours are almost as important as the colours themselves.

Carlton: Navy Blue 95%, White 5%
Geelong: White 60%, Navy Blue 40%

Adelaide: Navy Blue 50%, Red 25%, Yellow 25%
Brisbane: Maroon 75%, Royal Blue 20%, Yellow 5%
Gold Coast: Red 80%, Yellow 20%, Sky Blue 0% (no sky blue in their home strip)

Collingwood is essentially Black 50% White 50% (though this does vary to 60/40 for the home and 40/60 away strips)
Port wants to wear the same colours, same proportion, 80% similar design (vertical stripes)

It's too close to Collingwood's existing design. Add some teal or magenta and it can be considered. Otherwise, just forget it and move on.

As the back of the jumper is completely different in proportion and design, by your reasoning you are only objecting to 50% of the design (the front). Of the 50% you are objecting to, you claim an 80% similarity. As an 80% design overlap of 50% front of the jumper is 40% percent of the total, you can hardly call 40% identical or similar considering the north jumper has 50% colour and 100% design overlap over the entire jumper!!!

 

[BronCrow]

How was I rubbishing them? Did they co-opt the South Melbourne Football Club name or not? BTW I did look them up, they are the result of a merger of 3 soccer clubs none of which was named South Melbourne Football Club (because the name was already taken), if they wanted to downplay their Greek roots to appeal to other fans they could have resurrected the South Melbourne United name from one of the original clubs.

You said they stole the name?

How is that not rubbishing them.

No they did not co-opt the name. Once South Melbourne Football Club in the VFL moved to Sydney in 1982 they became the Sydney Swans Football Club. The South Melbourne Football Club in the National Premier League Victoria did not take on that name until 2005.

Sydney Swans - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

South Melbourne FC - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[parano1a]

As the back of the jumper is completely different in proportion and design, by your reasoning you are only objecting to 50% of the design (the front).

I don't consider the back of the jumper to have equal weighting with the front in terms of design/colour importance.

 

[Tim Evans Beard]

I don't consider the back of the jumper to have equal weighting with the front in terms of design/colour importance.

So you wouldn’t object to PAFC having black and white stripes on the back?

 

[parano1a]

50% colour and 100% design overlap over the entire jumper!!!

Design overlap is not important if the colour palettes are completely different.

The following groups of teams have similar or identical designs but are each completely recognisable as a result of their unique colour palette.

Collingwood / North Melbourne / Hawthorn
Essendon / Richmond
Carlton / Gold Coast
Geelong / Adelaide
Port Adelaide / Fremantle
Sydney / Melbourne

 

[parano1a]

So you wouldn’t object to PAFC having black and white stripes on the back?

If the front had a reasonable proportion of teal or another unique alternative colour (e.g. magenta), then no.

 

[Lagooner]

See the proportions of colours are almost as important as the colours themselves.

Carlton: Navy Blue 95%, White 5%
Geelong: White 60%, Navy Blue 40%

Adelaide: Navy Blue 50%, Red 25%, Yellow 25%
Brisbane: Maroon 75%, Royal Blue 20%, Yellow 5%
Gold Coast: Red 80%, Yellow 20%, Sky Blue 0% (no sky blue in their home strip)

Collingwood is essentially Black 50% White 50% (though this does vary to 60/40 for the home and 40/60 away strips)
Port wants to wear the same colours, same proportion, 80% similar design (vertical stripes)

It's too close to Collingwood's existing design. Add some teal or magenta and it can be considered. Otherwise, just forget it and move on.

Fixed the proportions. Fewer, thinner bars and black collar/cuffs. Probably 80-85% black.

Sign here please (talking to the AFL btw, not Collingwood).

 

[StonesThrow]

Have to admit this is a pretty impressive PR campaign

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Like a 4 year old in the supermarket begging their parents for a chocolate bar...

More like Ghandi bringing down the British.

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[OnlyPowerForever]

That's not what I can see. Port Adelaide's site has plenty of references to the Magpies' colours being black and white.

Apologies, didn't make a clear point.
But if we changed to just black on a white background, no one would think that its any more different to Collingwood.

 

[OnlyPowerForever]

Adelaide Crows were founded in 1986 by Martin Bashir, 10 years before Port Power.

Ah man. Why stop there? Your club hasn't.
From the AFC website... ladies and gentlemen.... a 3part series....

The 19th Century AFC

The first in a three-part series about the history of the original Adelaide Football Club, South Australia's first football club.

www.afc.com.au

It starts with, in bold...
It was the first football club in South Australia. It was the first to play night football. Adelaide Football Club was a trendsetter that won a premiership as the best football club in the State and also beat powerhouse Victorian club Carlton.

It then continues with, in plain...
Only this Adelaide Football Club was not the Crows.

But has numerous cross references with the Adelaide Crows to suggest they are claiming its history and its success.

Funnily, it doesn't mention that the club folded THREE times before finally disappearing in 1893.

The 19th Century AFC

The first in a three-part series about the history of the original Adelaide Football Club, South Australia's first football club.

www.afc.com.au

And Crows fans have the nerve to question Port Adelaide's history.