Port Adelaide's plan to use jumpers similar to Collingwood

[Malibu#27]

Navy blue vs black

Ohh, your serious. I thought you wrote Adelaide instead of Collingwood. In reality they stand out very well

 

[Billys Back]

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Huge clash ....

is that a Collingwood v Adelaide game?

 

[BallaratBulldog]

I reckon they should change into the prison bars for the song each win just to rustle a few jimmies.

 

[edgie]

NO you don't,

You first of all want them for "just showdowns"

Then suddenly "Every home game"

Then "well seeing as we wear it all the time at home lets make it out main jumper"

This is why Collingwood fight so hard
It was our drawing power which was the main reason that allowed the AFL to get such a lucrative Broadcast deal which in turn kept a debt ridden club like yours afloat.

It was our license fee in the 90s that kept your debt ridden club afloat.


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[Duckimus Prime]

Lol, you know thats just silly now. For the slow ones, same club rebranded in the same comp. Our jerseys still say FFC. PA Magpies still exist.

No they don't. Also the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club didn't exist before 1996/7.

Also our jumpers say PAFC.

PA Power was a new club starting in 1997. The whole 1870 thing is great marketing, not true but that never stopped a marketing guru.

There is no such football club as PA Power. There is the Port Adelaide Football Club, established in 1870 and the Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club, established 1996, dissolved in 2010.

There was a new club created in 96/97, but they played in the SANFL for 13 years.

PA have a history of renegging on agreements, understandable hatred of PA by everybody else in SA. Kochie stoking the defensive mindset, its working well.

Port Adelaide hasn't renegged on anything. Its gone into deals in good faith and acted in good faith with regards to those deals. As has been made abundantly clear, the other parties to these agreements have acted in bad faith.

And then there are some people that keep sticking their noses in, believeing inaccurate information that has been peddled by a former Collingwood President in his well controlled media position.

The problem he's facing right now is that Port Adelaide has a President that has just as big a media pulpit with the AFL's official broadcaster to call out the former Collingwood Presidents misinformation.

 

[jle101]

is that a Collingwood v Adelaide game?

Yes. It must be. One of the teams is wearing black & white. Case closed, right?

I mean, it's not like there's a myriad of other ways to be able to tell which team is playing - such as the location of the game, TV scoreboard graphics, sponsors, the actual players themselves or the fact that Collingwood have never had a jumper design which looks like that.

But considering you fail to tell the difference between Juventus & Newcastle I can see how you managed to get confused here as well.

Nice attempt at trolling Billy... back to bed now champ.

 

[Billys Back]

Yes. It must be. One of the teams is wearing black & white. Case closed, right?

I mean, it's not like there's a myriad of other ways to be able to tell which team is playing - such as the location of the game, TV scoreboard graphics, sponsors, the actual players themselves or the fact that Collingwood have never had a jumper design which looks like that.

But considering you fail to tell the difference between Juventus & Newcastle I can see how you managed to get confused here as well.

Nice attempt at trolling Billy... back to bed now champ.

it’s not trolling.
You are just trivialising the issue. The colours in a particular design identifies a club/brand.

You think big brands around the world welcome other groups to display a similar logo and colours/design to their own?

Now bring that back to a small competition where you have 2 sharing a very similar look.

 

[Billys Back]

Yes. It must be. One of the teams is wearing black & white. Case closed, right?

I mean, it's not like there's a myriad of other ways to be able to tell which team is playing - such as the location of the game, TV scoreboard graphics, sponsors, the actual players themselves or the fact that Collingwood have never had a jumper design which looks like that.

But considering you fail to tell the difference between Juventus & Newcastle I can see how you managed to get confused here as well.

Nice attempt at trolling Billy... back to bed now champ.

I’m surprised you can pick all that up from glancing a picture.

I’m sure a study has been conducted on those who use the term ‘champ’. They are probably the ‘uneducated’ of the group.

 

[Billys Back]

I reckon they should change into the prison bars for the song each win just to rustle a few jimmies.

I’ve got to say it was nice of them to celebrate our second win of the season last week.

 

[jle101]

it’s not trolling.
You are just trivialising the issue. The colours in a particular design identifies a club/brand.

You think big brands around the world welcome other groups to display a similar logo and colours/design to their own?

Now bring that back to a small competition where you have 2 sharing a very similar look.

You never answered me when I asked you who you assume is playing when you see a soccer team playing in a red kit.

Man U, Liverpool, Adelaide United, or maybe the Austrian national football team?

 

[jle101]

I’m surprised you can pick all that up from glancing a picture.

I’m sure a study has been conducted on those who use the term ‘champ’. They are probably the ‘uneducated’ of the group.

I'm surprised that you can't.

 

[Billys Back]

You never answered me when I asked you who you assume is playing when you see a soccer team playing in a red kit.

Man U, Liverpool, Adelaide United, or maybe the Austrian national football team?

If I see a pic, flick through the tv, see a red scarf etc I’d assume it’s Liverpool.

 

[jle101]

If I see a pic, flick through the tv, see a red scarf etc I’d assume it’s Liverpool.

That's sad.

 

[Ray Nolan]

I reckon they should change into the prison bars for the song each win just to rustle a few jimmies.

'Mind if we start said jimmie rustling from tomorrow night?

 

[Outback Footy]

it’s not trolling.
You are just trivialising the issue. The colours in a particular design identifies a club/brand.

You think big brands around the world welcome other groups to display a similar logo and colours/design to their own?

Now bring that back to a small competition where you have 2 sharing a very similar look.

Dude, Cwood and Norf, Tiges n Bombers, theres 2 better examples of similar looks in the same comp. Better yet you guys n Bombers ANZAC day, that was bloody ridiculous. The PB's really dont look anything like the Cwood stripes

The ONLY argument Cwood have got is the contract. Its a strong argument, but arguing anything else undermines it.

 

[Outback Footy]

207 pages, the Showdown has been and gone and you do have to ask yourself what’s all the fuss about at the end of the day, waste of everyones time.

Its fun to play though

 

[jle101]

Dude, Cwood and Norf, Tiges n Bombers, theres 2 better examples of similar looks in the same comp. Better yet you guys n Bombers ANZAC day, that was bloody ridiculous. The PB's really dont look anything like the Cwood stripes

The ONLY argument Cwood have got is the contract. Its a strong argument, but arguing anything else undermines it.

Have a feeling Billy might have missed the Anzac clash. Probably switched on the TV & assumed someone else was playing.

 

[PowerBaz]

Is Kevin Bartlett head of PR for Port Adelaide?

I remember in 2017 he was disgusted at the thought of Richmond wearing the away strip in the GF and was pushing for the players to change into the traditional strip for presentations.

That club (Richmond) embraced the present.
But Port Adelaide and Neanderthals like Bartlett are hanging onto the past and wont move on.

Haven't moved on.... please, we are after 1 game, 2 at best (but that won't happen).

It's actually not very hard to see what Port are after, blind ignorance and that 'Olde Adelaide' mentality of just saying no gets in the way of rational thinking.

Perhaps it's time you should head back to West lakes and pop into the Crows shed to practice some singing.

 

[El_Scorcho]

On each occasion the magpies agreed. If you keep pissing off the gate keepers the gate will stay shut. And if wearing PB's for club singalongs makes you feel warm n fuzzy and is the goal, sorted. If this is a serious effort to change it seems to be the wrong approach to piss the pies and AFL off. They have to agree to a changed contract and this is no way to encourage that.
But it does fire up the fans.

I don't actually think the bolded part is correct.

We've all heard Eddie get absolutely furious every time this is mentioned. He's said "never again" publicly multiple times. I can't for a second believe that Eddie and Collingwood have willingly agreed to this 5 times.

I think what's far more likely is that the AFL approve it, tell Collingwood to suck it up and agree to give them the public perception of control over the matter for political reasons.

In 2014 we asked to wear the bars for the 100th anniversary of our undefeated, Champions of Australia season. The greatest season in the club's history. We were knocked back. Then in the week leading up to the Elimination Final it became obvious that the AFL's weak clash policy at the time meant that Richmond didn't have an adequate clash guernsey. We argued that if we are being forced out of our home guernsey due to the AFL's mistake, we want to wear the bars, and they were approved less than 24 hours later.

Does anyone really believe Eddie and Collingwood gave the green light for us to wear the bars in a final? I'd argue that it's far more like that Collingwood were told rather than asked, and that the AFL allowed them to save face by publicly agreeing with it to maintain a perception of control.

We'll continue to lobby the AFL and we'll eventually get what we're asking for. Collingwood will undoubtedly be given the opportunity to stage manage it, but they aren't involved in the decision.

 

[Outback Footy]

You changed your name and stayed in the same comp (god only knows why), and have a VFL side with a different name entirely.
We have a team in both comps called Port Adelaide, but with different guernseys and nicknames and guenrseys to avoid a clash.

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So you differentiate your 1st and 2nd teams through jerseys and nicknames and we do it through names of the teams. Our direction was chosen by the club and agreed by everybody at the AFL and VFL. Ours was easy, no clashes, no controversy. Your direction was chosen through negotiation and agreed by all relevant parties and had to be because of the obvious clash your SANFL identity posed to an existing AFL club. At the time PA was desperate to join the AFL, to step into the main game where all the $ were flowing, fair enough. In that instance you had no strength in the negotiation so the club agreed to whatever it had to. Thats the core of the problem.
Now you need to live with those past agreements, unless ALL parties involved agree. You cant simply force the change you now want on other clubs or the league. From the outside thats what it looks like. Because youve been the most powerful club in SA you feel entitled to do what you want elsewhere. The problem is youre clashing with another entitled club who are pushing back.
I cant see PA ever winning this debate. Theres a contract. If there wasnt you would have worn the PB's last weekend.

Reinventing history (as some of your fellow PA fans are doing), denying a contract thats simply written and very clear, is very Trumpian. And its an impossible position to win.

 

[Outback Footy]

Have a feeling Billy might have missed the Anzac clash. Probably switched on the TV & assumed someone else was playing.

It looked like an intra-club or training sess where theyd forgotten the vests

 

[sprockets]

This is from the PA constitution:

"4.5 "Club" shall mean the "Port Adelaide Football Club" as established by the Company in 1996;"

https://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/PortAdelaide/Links%20and%20Files/PAFCconstitution.pdf

 

[Outback Footy]

We'll continue to lobby the AFL and we'll eventually get what we're asking for. Collingwood will undoubtedly be given the opportunity to stage manage it, but they aren't involved in the decision.

Why on earth would you assume the bolded? Youre going up against the biggest club in the country (yes far bigger than even PA)

And I'll say again I dont personally see a clash and think PA should be able to wear the PB's but I cant see how you get around the contract as it stands. There are 3 parties to the contract and all 3 need to agree

 

[Malibu#27]

I’m surprised you can pick all that up from glancing a picture.

I’m sure a study has been conducted on those who use the term ‘champ’. They are probably the ‘uneducated’ of the group.

I didnt need to. a microsecond of looking at it identified a very unique guernset design in the prison bars.

 

[Billys Back]

Dude, Cwood and Norf, Tiges n Bombers, theres 2 better examples of similar looks in the same comp. Better yet you guys n Bombers ANZAC day, that was bloody ridiculous. The PB's really dont look anything like the Cwood stripes

The ONLY argument Cwood have got is the contract. Its a strong argument, but arguing anything else undermines it.

Collingwood and North? Blue and white stripes and black and white stripes. Unless you still have your black and white TV, it's very obvious they are different.
Togers and Bombers - again, one has a think yellow sash and the other has a thick red sash.

Anzac day both teams didn't even wear their proper gear. However, again, red and white are actually very different colours.

But you are talking about wearing black and white stripes. That is BLACK AND WHITE. Same colour as Collingwood. And then add to the fact that they are STRIPES. Yes, and Collingwood wear, you guessed it, STRIPES!