That would sum it up well. They went through alot over the last few years to win the flag and now the hunger and passion is gone. Port and Brisbane show that it doesn't take much to fall off the pace in footy. Despite their wonderful ability, just that bit of "want" means a few less runners, a few less options, a few less blokes working hard to get the ball or be accountable and in today's hard running game you go from top to slaughtered just like that. Besides ability of course, intensity, accountability and committment mean everything in footy.Alberton_Magpie said:I don't see 117 points happening again though