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AFLW 2024 - Round 9 - Indigenous Round - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Because he was able to shut down an opposition CHF day in day out and provide rebound when necessary. We have great running backs - Torney, Begley, Hart, Reilly Bassett. Our backline is our main strength. McGregor passes off to these guys, which stops him leaving his opponent loose and open to getting done on the rebound - much as McGregor exposed Cornes as failing to do in the last Showdown. McGregor took advantage of Cornes' unaccountability and completely pantsed him, a large part of why the Crows won. McGregor as a CHB doesn't do that - he has plenty of other players he can pass off to who provide run.larrikin said:Maybe 20 years ago. Many teams now set up their attack through CHB - Cornes at Port being the perfect example. Why do you think Jako was rated so highly at West Coast?
Wakey wakey, hands of snakey. McGregor is good but you're kidding yourself if you think he has been better than Cornes and McPharlin over last two years.spindoctor said:Incorrect. The NUMBER ONE role of a CHB is to negate their opponent. McGregor does this week in, week out. Cornes is more of a flanker and sometimes doesnt even have an opponent, while McPharlin is very good, but still gets beaten on the rebound at times.
Forget your a Crows fan and tell me honestly, who would you rather have in your side - Cornes, McPharlin or McGregor?spindoctor said:Because he was able to shut down an opposition CHF day in day out and provide rebound when necessary. We have great running backs - Torney, Begley, Hart, Reilly Bassett. Our backline is our main strength. McGregor passes off to these guys, which stops him leaving his opponent loose and open to getting done on the rebound - much as McGregor exposed Cornes as failing to do in the last Showdown. McGregor took advantage of Cornes' unaccountability and completely pantsed him, a large part of why the Crows won. McGregor as a CHB doesn't do that - he has plenty of other players he can pass off to who provide run.
Get your hand off it. If McGregor has their CHF, they will always worry about it because he is always successful. Your own heroic ex-coach Mick Malthouse said he should be All-Australian full-back. And coming from a team where the laughable McDougall is your premier KPP, I wouldn't be luaghing too much at ours.theorangeapple said:gives the crows boys a break, mcgregor is about the only half decent player they have who plays KPP.
the guy is a good quality AFL footballer but will never be an all australian or be a guy the opposition will worry about too much pre- game.
spindoctor said:Get your hand off it. If McGregor has their CHF, they will always worry about it because he is always successful. Your own heroic ex-coach Mick Malthouse said he should be All-Australian full-back. And coming from a team where the laughable McDougall is your premier KPP, I wouldn't be luaghing too much at ours.
spindoctor said:McDougall, for a top 10 pick, is a flop. He is producing nowhere near what is expected, even now he is only an average KPP.
spindoctor said:Chad Cornes is not the best CHB in SA. That's laughable. He has been beaten so many more times than McGregor this season. By McGregor himself, in fact.
Clearly you're a dumb noob who knows nothing about our list if you think we have no key forwards. Hentschel is a better player than McDougall any day of the week, earlier in his career Perrie the way he's playing at the moment, is a better player than McDougall, and even when he's not playing that well, McDougall isn't consistent either - Christ, McDougall will put together a half of solid football then disappear. That he hasn't kicked more than 4 goals in a game, and that only twice, is a telling statistic.
Fergus Watts, given another season or so, will kill McDougall as a key forward, and Scott Welsh...well at least he actually kicks goals...more than the less than 1.5 McDougall averages...after struggling with injury in the first part of the season he has already kicked more goals than your precious McDougall. In his last 11 games since returning from injury, Welsh has kicked as many goals as McDougall has all season...in a team going poorly as well. And they both play as leading full-forwards. Funny about that.
And Mark Stevens...while he may never play again now, he is 10000 times better than McDougall will ever be.
McDougall, for a top 10 pick, is a flop. He is producing nowhere near what is expected, even now he is only an average KPP.
Mate I'm trying to help you, but you are sounding like a clown......spindoctor said:Chad Cornes is not the best CHB in SA. That's laughable. He has been beaten so many more times than McGregor this season. By McGregor himself, in fact.
Clearly you're a dumb noob who knows nothing about our list if you think we have no key forwards. Hentschel is a better player than McDougall any day of the week, earlier in his career Perrie the way he's playing at the moment, is a better player than McDougall, and even when he's not playing that well, McDougall isn't consistent either - Christ, McDougall will put together a half of solid football then disappear. That he hasn't kicked more than 4 goals in a game, and that only twice, is a telling statistic.
Fergus Watts, given another season or so, will kill McDougall as a key forward, and Scott Welsh...well at least he actually kicks goals...more than the less than 1.5 McDougall averages...after struggling with injury in the first part of the season he has already kicked more goals than your precious McDougall. In his last 11 games since returning from injury, Welsh has kicked as many goals as McDougall has all season...in a team going poorly as well. And they both play as leading full-forwards. Funny about that.
And Mark Stevens...while he may never play again now, he is 10000 times better than McDougall will ever be.
McDougall, for a top 10 pick, is a flop. He is producing nowhere near what is expected, even now he is only an average KPP.
spindoctor said:Chad Cornes is not the best CHB in SA. That's laughable. He has been beaten so many more times than McGregor this season. By McGregor himself, in fact.
Clearly you're a dumb noob who knows nothing about our list if you think we have no key forwards. Hentschel is a better player than McDougall any day of the week, earlier in his career Perrie the way he's playing at the moment, is a better player than McDougall, and even when he's not playing that well, McDougall isn't consistent either - Christ, McDougall will put together a half of solid football then disappear. That he hasn't kicked more than 4 goals in a game, and that only twice, is a telling statistic.
Fergus Watts, given another season or so, will kill McDougall as a key forward, and Scott Welsh...well at least he actually kicks goals...more than the less than 1.5 McDougall averages...after struggling with injury in the first part of the season he has already kicked more goals than your precious McDougall. In his last 11 games since returning from injury, Welsh has kicked as many goals as McDougall has all season...in a team going poorly as well. And they both play as leading full-forwards. Funny about that.
And Mark Stevens...while he may never play again now, he is 10000 times better than McDougall will ever be.
McDougall, for a top 10 pick, is a flop. He is producing nowhere near what is expected, even now he is only an average KPP.
West Coast Stre said:Good luck with your team of stars. Maybe we will see you in the finals next year.
spindoctor said:Fianlly! A WCE supporter who doesn't think Wirrpunda is anything more than an average small running half back?
I don't recall anyone saying that McDougall was a superstar, but there's very little doubt he will BECOME an outstanding footballer. Welsh is ok, actually probably a solid AFL footballer, but is the only attacking option in an average team and will always receive alot of the footy up forward.spindoctor said:Funny that dasler, Mead and co. say I'm guilty of bull********, yet these guys talk up average players like McDougall like he is the hottest young key forward in the comp, and that Wirrpunda is still a star. Who cares whether Welsh is 188 cm or 197 cm you stupid fools? Fact is, he plays the same position as McDougall, full forward. So comparing their outputs is completely fair. You were saying none of our key forwards are as good as McDougall. And I was able to refute that simply by showing that our full forward kicks more goals in less games. Done.
Ok admitted - McGregor is the best blanket in the competition. Some of us like a bloke who can actually do somethuing theirselves.spindoctor said:Well I also hit back against your Gary Ayres quote on McDougall, by quoting a much more reputable coach - Mick Malthouse - who called McGregor the best CHB in the competition. Your pathetic attempts to try and trump him with Cornes and McPharlin fail because you keep saying 'oh, do a poll on who is the most ATTACKING, who is the best NATURAL footballer'. I never disagreed on these things. I said his number one role is negating, and he is close to the best at that in the competition. Cornes and McPharlin are very, very good, but they sometimes forget they're supposed to negat ttheir opponent as well as being fancy. The opposition CHF is arguably the most important player in the team if they are playing well.
You, sir, are an idiot. Good dayspindoctor said:And if you think negating is 'so 20 years ago', and providing run is more important than negating, you are stupid and ignorant and should go and watch soccer.