Training Pre Season '24

[Rubber Hips]

This definitely put a spring in my step, reading Caesars report.

Good News Training Day Sunday:

In brilliant sunshine a 2 hour training session with good vibes was held in front of family and friends.

In great news Prestia, Taranto, Lynch and BAUER trained fully, in fact Lynchy was still running laps 15 minutes after other players went inside and I left, (this is in keeping with the stated mini pre-season they are putting him through), I think Lynchy will be putting his hand up for the Carlton game but conditioning staff will have the final say.
Bauer: Played back and looked very good for someone who has had a very restricted pre-season.
Dusty: Looks to be firing and was the third last player to leave the track, instead having some shots on goal and chatting with his good mate Newy.
Lefau: Played on Gibcus when it came to match sim type drills, towards the end of session he had set shot kicking instruction, he doesn't seem to have too much wrong with his action, the ball really thumps off his boot.
Young: Matched up on Lynch.
Steely: Got to the right spots again.
Mansel: Not training but spotted in bare feet and out of moon boot.

Only possible negative? :

Nank: Was not out there at all, Naismith firming for round zero, recruiting could be a masterstroke?

The wrap:

Best session of the summer, ball movement pretty clean and all in good spirits and humour, (no doubt aided by the presence of family and friends and the fact the season proper is just around the corner).


Cheers

Great report…very positive…sounds like things are coming together for the start of the season

 

[beema limapep]

On the Cumberland isn't accountable thing, I dont understand why MRJ gets a pass and not Cumberland.

That is, why did MRJ play in the ones and Cumberland in the 2s re Melbourne?

I know they aren't the exact same type of player but if the argument is team first accountability on the field I would have thought Rioli would be equal to him. Rioli costs with is selfish use of the ball but tackles, whereas Cumberland costs us with lack of defensive effort, but isn't selfish with use of the balll.

If the arguement is also conditioning and fitness, Cumberland is looking super fit.

 

[Groupie_]

cherry ripe

 

[THE THIN MAN]

On the Cumberland isn't accountable thing, I dont understand why MRJ gets a pass and not Cumberland.

That is, why did MRJ play in the ones and Cumberland in the 2s re Melbourne?

I know they aren't the exact same type of player but if the argument is team first accountability on the field I would have thought Rioli would be equal to him. Rioli costs with is selfish use of the ball but tackles, whereas Cumberland costs us with lack of defensive effort, but isn't selfish with use of the balll.

If the arguement is also conditioning and fitness, Cumberland is looking super fit.

I wouldn't be surprised for Cumberland and MRJ to both start in the VFL, Steely Green has been very effective.

 

[mauricerioli]

On the Cumberland isn't accountable thing, I dont understand why MRJ gets a pass and not Cumberland.

That is, why did MRJ play in the ones and Cumberland in the 2s re Melbourne?

I know they aren't the exact same type of player but if the argument is team first accountability on the field I would have thought Rioli would be equal to him. Rioli costs with is selfish use of the ball but tackles, whereas Cumberland costs us with lack of defensive effort, but isn't selfish with use of the balll.

If the arguement is also conditioning and fitness, Cumberland is looking super fit.

I’m guessing the Collingwood practice match is more important than the Melbourne practice match, the Melbourne game was basically an unofficial practice match organised between the clubs where the Collingwood game is a proper AFL organised practice match and a full dress rehearsal for our opening game.

So the Melbourne game had more fringe players given a go and this weeks game will be our first 22 or 26 being picked so we’ll have a much better idea who’s higher in the pecking order from Tuesday’s team.

 

[prodigy]

No reason for panic stations just yet but Nank's inability to stay fit is very concerning.

I've made it no secret that I have preferred what a pure athletic tap ruckman offers over what Nank offers. This might be a blessing in disguise as I'm excited about what Naismith will bring to the table. Would be a better match up for Witts anyways.

I know I'm in the minority on this perspective of our ruck stocks though.

 

[sregit]

if “love fest” means supporting all players in the squad (including Cumbo) …then. I am guilty of that

i want all our players to do well

Stupid comment. All supporters want our players to be good, Cumberland included. However he has not shown enough since his first senior year to deserve being selected in the senior side. When posters here keep selecting him in the first 22, they are basing it on hope(Love fest). Where is the form to warrant a senior selection. At this stage Cumbo is all show, no go.

 

[sante]

No reason for panic stations just yet but Nank's inability to stay fit is very concerning.

I've made it no secret that I have preferred what a pure athletic tap ruckman offers over what Nank offers. This might be a blessing in disguise as I'm excited about what Naismith will bring to the table. Would be a better match up for Witts anyways.

I know I'm in the minority on this perspective of our ruck stocks though.

Not saying you’re wrong, but Naismith hasn’t exactly been able to stay on the park either.

 

[Morro]

Not saying you’re wrong, but Naismith hasn’t exactly been able to stay on the park either.

And offers half as much as nank around the ground, has naismith held a mark yet FFS

Talk about the grass is always greener.

 

[prodigy]

Not saying you’re wrong, but Naismith hasn’t exactly been able to stay on the park either.

Yeah I'm aware of his history.

 

[tora tora tora]

Yeah I'm aware of his history.

Nank averaging 18 games/year, isn't too bad but Naismith is a good pick up. 32 y.o. is ok for a ruck. Gives Ryan time to develop to
Balta, Kosi, Miller KPP back up

 

[Ctl]

Not too concerned with the ruck depth, we have Nank, Naismith then if both are injured Ryan. Yze seems willing to play Balta in ruck if need be as well

 

[Sol23]

When do tickets go on sale for the blooze game?

 

[mauricerioli]

When do tickets go on sale for the blooze game?

Ticket on-sale times
 
MCG (Ticketek)

Tuesday 27th February
12pm – Club Members (Rounds 1-15)
2pm – AFL Members (Rounds 1-6 Only)
 
Wednesday 28th February
12pm – General Public (Rounds 1-15)

 

[beema limapep]

Not too concerned with the ruck depth, we have Nank, Naismith then if both are injured Ryan. Yze seems willing to play Balta in ruck if need be as well

Ryan in the ruck for a game worth 4 points would be a major problem if the Melbourne game is anything to go by.

 

[Grrr]

Stupid comment. All supporters want our players to be good, Cumberland included. However he has not shown enough since his first senior year to deserve being selected in the senior side. When posters here keep selecting him in the first 22, they are basing it on hope(Love fest). Where is the form to warrant a senior selection. At this stage Cumbo is all show, no go.

Where is the form to warrant many posters with Greene and Campbell in the side. They were both very average last season, the form you talk of unless you watch training each week. They have had good preseasons, as has Cumberland from most of Ceasar's (PRE) reports.

Cumberland was harshly dealt with last season. His form early in the season did not follow on from '22 and he was appropriately dropped, pretty normal for a second year player. Hardwick picking out a second year player and publicly paying out on him did not help his confidence. Round 21 he comes in and was our best forward, dropped again. Goes back and kicks 6 in the VFL and is not promoted. It has not been all Cumberland's doing. The VFL with it's dogs breakfast fixture with 3 byes didn't help.

Cumberland has all the attributes. Fast, good mark, dynamic, aggressive, creates goals etc. If it clicks he is the perfect 3rd tall/mid sized forward. So posters back him in because he is worth the gamble. Love fest is far from hope or potential.

But a new coaching panel will have new ideas and will play the players that stand out. Greene and Campbell so far must have done more on the track than Cumberland, good for them, but preseason form only gets you so far. The Collingwood game will tell a lot.

 

[LTT]

No reason for panic stations just yet but Nank's inability to stay fit is very concerning.

I've made it no secret that I have preferred what a pure athletic tap ruckman offers over what Nank offers. This might be a blessing in disguise as I'm excited about what Naismith will bring to the table. Would be a better match up for Witts anyways.

I know I'm in the minority on this perspective of our ruck stocks though.

I watched the replay of the 2017 gf and one of the things I noticed was the difference between Nank now and Nack then. He used to be able to really jump in the ruck contests. Now he is all contested stuff, no jump.

 

[Stigmata]

I watched the replay of the 2017 gf and one of the things I noticed was the difference between Nank now and Nack then. He used to be able to really jump in the ruck contests. Now he is all contested stuff, no jump.

I was impressed by how high Naismith got against Gawn

 

[fargothegreat]

Ryan in the ruck for a game worth 4 points would be a major problem if the Melbourne game is anything to go by.

I like Ryan as second ruck and up forward. Depends if we want to give Lefau a go though.

 

[tiger_tough]

Nanks got plantar fascia issues. Thank **** we got Naismith.

 

[Roachy8]

I wonder who is gonna toss the coin tomorrow night then?

 

[fargothegreat]

I wonder who is gonna toss the coin tomorrow night then?

Dusty or Bakes probably NIL.

 

[DickieKnee]

I wonder who is gonna toss the coin tomorrow night then?

Grandpa Grimes.

 

[tiger_tough]

Hoping to see this team -

fb- Broad, Young, Vlastuin
hb- Rioli, Gibcus, Short
c- Pickett, Hopper, Ross
hf- Graham, Balta, Baker
ff- Bolton, Kosi, Lefau
r- Naismith, Taranto, Martin

int- Dow, Brown, Banks, Green, Campbell

 

[Groupie_]

I wonder who is gonna toss the coin tomorrow night then?

mal brown