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freo84 said:
Can any legendary watcher let me know how Sharp is looking?

Cheers in advance.
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A bit of a mixed bag. Did some really nifty things early, showed some skills with the boot, both running and kicking.

Later on he compounded a bad decision with poor execution. There are also times where he wasn't where you hoped a winger would be.

Will be interesting to see how he shapes up under the intensity and pressure off an AFL game(s).
 
freo1997 said:
Nothing will fix his ball drop under pressure and through traffic ( no idea how he got it done 2022)

Few helicopters today. Even Fyfe had a chuckle with him about it..or chuckling at him.

Speaking of Fyfe I thought he disposal was brilliant today. His vision through traffic was on point too. Well weighted handpasses etc..
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Fyfe still has some winkles to iron out with his kicking before the season starts. Missed a few fairly rudimentary targets with his kicking.
 

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freo1997 said:
It’s the best he’s looked in year or two though. Still had the best vision out of the contest for mine.
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Agreed his contest work was crazy again today, even if he was tackled in a bear hug he somehow fed it out to someone. Also agree with arsesmart that he missed a couple of kicks he wouldnt normally
 
freo1997 said:
Nothing will fix his ball drop under pressure and through traffic ( no idea how he got it done 2022)

Few helicopters today. Even Fyfe had a chuckle with him about it..or chuckling at him.

Speaking of Fyfe I thought he disposal was brilliant today. His vision through traffic was on point too. Well weighted handpasses etc..
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Yep he still has the confidence and strength to hold the ball for the right release most of the time too..
 
I went to the scratchy today too. I saw from about half way thru the first until the end. I am waiting on some new prescription lenses for my sunnies and did not find it easy picking up who’s who, also purple jumper numbers are really hard to read, but a few comments.

Intensity was high, with a couple of altercations as mentioned elsewhere. A lot of 50m penaltieS, so need to up the discipline.

Dogga best on by some margin. Big Sean looked in good order, I thought, and ready for round 1. Fyfe seemed in good order too. Brandon moved well and quite involved for quite a short cameo after half time. Caleb everywhere early for white, but purple midfield got on top after half time, I thought, with the help of big Sean. Jye was classy and I thought his kicking looked to have more penetration, although my footy companion disagreed. Worner looked closer to the standard, as others have said.

I did not think anyone put their hand up particularly for wing or hff or forward pocket, although I did‘T notice Cooper Simpson or Jeremy Sharp a lot. Put that down to the sunnies.
 
Thanks for the write ups and how some viewed the sim.
But... afterreading a couple... I really am confused about who was good and who wasn't .
All in the eye of the beholder I guess.
 
Snuffaluphagus said:
Player Write-Up in order of Jumper Numbers
Sturt: Seems to be building. Noticeably stronger in contests and took the right option every time he got the ball. A bit more of the ball would have been good but given the interrupted preseason, was a good hit out
JOM: Spent time onball, up front and on the wing I think. Had a great tackle on Fyfe to get holding the ball which was literally that handshake meme but otherwise pretty quiet. Fluffed a couple of uncontested disposals he shouldnt have. Clearly building from an interrupted preseason
Serong: Angry ant who was in everything as normal, very strong in the contest (unless it was Cooper Simpson). I will say he needs to tighten up his inside 50s as his one area of weakness. Hits probably 50% of them when I want it up at 75%
Darcy: I struggle to think of many ruck battles Knobel attended, I think they just blasted Darcy in there almost the full game to get some fitness underneath him. Dominated the hitouts and was his normal self on ground balls. 100% fit now I think
Clark: Only player I think might rival him for most improved this year is Johnson. Good rebound, some fantastic tackles and chases and a big reason along with some other purple defenders as to why they won.
Fyfe: Looking like a contested ball behemoth again. Missed a couple of fieldkicks I'd like to see him be hitting but JOM was the only one that could stop him getting the ball out. I'll be clear that he is not going to be prime Fyfe but he can play a fantastic role in that middle in getting the ball out from contest.
Brayshaw: Same as Serong, didnt necessarily stand out but was all over the ground, couple of good fend offs showed his strength. Fully fit and ready to go
Jackson: I dont know how Melbourne fluffed his forward craft but the guy just kinda kicks goals for fun every time I've watched him this year. Cheap goals out the back, contested marks, snaps from a handpass out of stoppage. He both quietly dominates and very obviously dominates at the same time haha. Laid some massive tackles to go with everything else as well. BOG
Walters: Didnt do too much so must have been well held by Aish but still agile as a cat and his voice and leadership is incredible. Never stops talking
Aish: Must have held Walters well because I didnt notice him much unless he had a skill error where he had a couple. Definitely playing down back this year
Davies: Tabs got on the end of a few in the end but I thought he was excellent. A large part of the reason purple won with some great contests. Good game from him
Ryan: Second best on ground behind Jackson for mine, stopped repelled a LOT of attacks and organised purples defence. Of the kick outs he took(they specifically took it off him on occasion), I dont think there was one long bomb down the ground.
Sharp: Runs and runs and runs and runs. Always provided an option and his skills were pretty good today though I imagine most of the time in game he will just be getting and kicking down the line to a contest. Will fill a role nicely
Hughes: Didnt do much off the top of my head, missed an easy disposal or two
Brodie: Trademark Brodie game, very clean at ground level with elite hands. Not so elite kicking. Not as good as last game but definitely not bad
Emmett: Another bad kick culprit but the trademark endeavour was there with a couple of brilliant tackles and rundowns (including on Williams who was flying). Same player I had him pegged at Peel as last year. Is an AFL player IF he keeps his disposal at the level it was in those last couple of games.
Tabs: Great battle with Davies as mentioned. Presented hard and took a couple of good grabs. Definitely very handy depth if he's playing at Peel
McDonald: Amiss kicked 4 but I honestly didnt notice him much, OMac did a pretty good job all things considered. Still would have ahead of Davies as next player in for Pearce or Cox
Knobel: Kicked two goals but they were meh goals (free kick and a 50m penalty). I dont know if every time he rucked I was on my phone but I dont think he got much of a run on ball.
Worner: Seems to have gain a metre of speed with some really good rebound. His kicks are hit and miss still, some bullets that are lace out, some shanks. Definitely taken a step forward on last year though
Amiss: Just goes about his business hitting others up lace out and sneaking 4 snags. Maybe I expect too much from him already haha
Pearce: Had some great contests with Treacy, particularly in the last. Looks confident in himself again, including his kicking
Young: Another that just kinda quietly goes about his business though was a large reason for some of the fantastic kicking chains in the first half. Is a great piece that rounds out that midfield as a defensive 1st receiver of that makes sense
Jones: Took a fantastic contested mark in the 50 I believe but other than that, has a LOT of building to do to get an AFL game. Will start in reserves I imagine.
Erasmus: Better skills I thought from Ras, particularly in close. He does get to like every single contest somehow, crazy work rate even though it would be good if he could find a 5th gear somehow. Had an awesome kick to Jye where he was tackled but kicked perfectly to his lead as he was falling over. If it was deliberate, it was brilliant. I think he's basically a Darcy Parish clone
Simpson: This kid must have production or tank issues because he was awesome whenever on or near the ball. He basically told Serong to * off in a fight for the ball and stole it from him. Might force the coaches hand to play him, even his kicking was great today with a couple of bullets.
Noddy: Honestly not sure if he played the first half but he was onball the 2nd half and looked pretty good in there where you can tell it's his natural position even though He'll never get to sniff it.
Walker: Has lost none of the agility or speed and was great to see him back out there
Freddy: Quieter than the other games, missed a couple of shots on goal but looks fit and ready.
Murphy: Injured in the first, unsure how bad
Treacy: Hopefully ready to go to the next level, getting to more contests and his voice is just as loud as SonSon. I dont think he did anything spectacular but was a large reason purple won.
Draper: Basically discount Chapman. His kicking and decision making ranges from elite to "needs work" but he's so damn fast and agile for his height. I want him impacting more contests now that he is noticeably stronger
Delean: Gets to some good spots but size holding him back a bit at the moment, will be a development year but he knows where to be on the crumb
Banfield: Probably the best pressure player on the ground, will be fighting with Emmett for a spot round 1 I imagine.
Reidy: At times competed well with Darcy but didnt do much elsewise
Johnson: Somehow needs to be on ball as much as humanely possible, if you can actually catch him in the contest given the time and space he plays with, good luck getting it to stick. Honestly, there has to be a superstar in there somewhere if they can just develop him properly. Doesnt get as much of it as I'd like but there arent many who can do what he can. Maybe I just have a weakness for not valuing production as highly as I should but man is he a tease
Williams: Only played the 2nd half I believe, there is something there with his pace and disposal. I hope he gets another year but if he doesnt quite make it at AFL, will be an incredible WAFL player I'm sure
Stanley: Same as normal for Milky, very good ball in hand, needs to somehow find more of it. Keep building that tank and work rate
Voss: Treacy clone without the elite kicking, had some very angry tackles and can contribute outside kicking goals but possibly limited athletically. Better depth to have than Corbett IMO
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Thx Snuff, brilliant work.
After 2 years of heart break, your Fyfe comments have finally awakened a bit of Fyfe 2024 belief in me. Let's F*N Goooooooooooooo!
 
Snuffaluphagus said:
Player Write-Up in order of Jumper Numbers
Sturt: Seems to be building. Noticeably stronger in contests and took the right option every time he got the ball. A bit more of the ball would have been good but given the interrupted preseason, was a good hit out
JOM: Spent time onball, up front and on the wing I think. Had a great tackle on Fyfe to get holding the ball which was literally that handshake meme but otherwise pretty quiet. Fluffed a couple of uncontested disposals he shouldnt have. Clearly building from an interrupted preseason
Serong: Angry ant who was in everything as normal, very strong in the contest (unless it was Cooper Simpson). I will say he needs to tighten up his inside 50s as his one area of weakness. Hits probably 50% of them when I want it up at 75%
Darcy: I struggle to think of many ruck battles Knobel attended, I think they just blasted Darcy in there almost the full game to get some fitness underneath him. Dominated the hitouts and was his normal self on ground balls. 100% fit now I think
Clark: Only player I think might rival him for most improved this year is Johnson. Good rebound, some fantastic tackles and chases and a big reason along with some other purple defenders as to why they won.
Fyfe: Looking like a contested ball behemoth again. Missed a couple of fieldkicks I'd like to see him be hitting but JOM was the only one that could stop him getting the ball out. I'll be clear that he is not going to be prime Fyfe but he can play a fantastic role in that middle in getting the ball out from contest.
Brayshaw: Same as Serong, didnt necessarily stand out but was all over the ground, couple of good fend offs showed his strength. Fully fit and ready to go
Jackson: I dont know how Melbourne fluffed his forward craft but the guy just kinda kicks goals for fun every time I've watched him this year. Cheap goals out the back, contested marks, snaps from a handpass out of stoppage. He both quietly dominates and very obviously dominates at the same time haha. Laid some massive tackles to go with everything else as well. BOG
Walters: Didnt do too much so must have been well held by Aish but still agile as a cat and his voice and leadership is incredible. Never stops talking
Aish: Must have held Walters well because I didnt notice him much unless he had a skill error where he had a couple. Definitely playing down back this year
Davies: Tabs got on the end of a few in the end but I thought he was excellent. A large part of the reason purple won with some great contests. Good game from him
Ryan: Second best on ground behind Jackson for mine, stopped repelled a LOT of attacks and organised purples defence. Of the kick outs he took(they specifically took it off him on occasion), I dont think there was one long bomb down the ground.
Sharp: Runs and runs and runs and runs. Always provided an option and his skills were pretty good today though I imagine most of the time in game he will just be getting and kicking down the line to a contest. Will fill a role nicely
Hughes: Didnt do much off the top of my head, missed an easy disposal or two
Brodie: Trademark Brodie game, very clean at ground level with elite hands. Not so elite kicking. Not as good as last game but definitely not bad
Emmett: Another bad kick culprit but the trademark endeavour was there with a couple of brilliant tackles and rundowns (including on Williams who was flying). Same player I had him pegged at Peel as last year. Is an AFL player IF he keeps his disposal at the level it was in those last couple of games.
Tabs: Great battle with Davies as mentioned. Presented hard and took a couple of good grabs. Definitely very handy depth if he's playing at Peel
McDonald: Amiss kicked 4 but I honestly didnt notice him much, OMac did a pretty good job all things considered. Still would have ahead of Davies as next player in for Pearce or Cox
Knobel: Kicked two goals but they were meh goals (free kick and a 50m penalty). I dont know if every time he rucked I was on my phone but I dont think he got much of a run on ball.
Worner: Seems to have gain a metre of speed with some really good rebound. His kicks are hit and miss still, some bullets that are lace out, some shanks. Definitely taken a step forward on last year though
Amiss: Just goes about his business hitting others up lace out and sneaking 4 snags. Maybe I expect too much from him already haha
Pearce: Had some great contests with Treacy, particularly in the last. Looks confident in himself again, including his kicking
Young: Another that just kinda quietly goes about his business though was a large reason for some of the fantastic kicking chains in the first half. Is a great piece that rounds out that midfield as a defensive 1st receiver of that makes sense
Jones: Took a fantastic contested mark in the 50 I believe but other than that, has a LOT of building to do to get an AFL game. Will start in reserves I imagine.
Erasmus: Better skills I thought from Ras, particularly in close. He does get to like every single contest somehow, crazy work rate even though it would be good if he could find a 5th gear somehow. Had an awesome kick to Jye where he was tackled but kicked perfectly to his lead as he was falling over. If it was deliberate, it was brilliant. I think he's basically a Darcy Parish clone
Simpson: This kid must have production or tank issues because he was awesome whenever on or near the ball. He basically told Serong to * off in a fight for the ball and stole it from him. Might force the coaches hand to play him, even his kicking was great today with a couple of bullets.
Noddy: Honestly not sure if he played the first half but he was onball the 2nd half and looked pretty good in there where you can tell it's his natural position even though He'll never get to sniff it.
Walker: Has lost none of the agility or speed and was great to see him back out there
Freddy: Quieter than the other games, missed a couple of shots on goal but looks fit and ready.
Murphy: Injured in the first, unsure how bad
Treacy: Hopefully ready to go to the next level, getting to more contests and his voice is just as loud as SonSon. I dont think he did anything spectacular but was a large reason purple won.
Draper: Basically discount Chapman. His kicking and decision making ranges from elite to "needs work" but he's so damn fast and agile for his height. I want him impacting more contests now that he is noticeably stronger
Delean: Gets to some good spots but size holding him back a bit at the moment, will be a development year but he knows where to be on the crumb
Banfield: Probably the best pressure player on the ground, will be fighting with Emmett for a spot round 1 I imagine.
Reidy: At times competed well with Darcy but didnt do much elsewise
Johnson: Somehow needs to be on ball as much as humanely possible, if you can actually catch him in the contest given the time and space he plays with, good luck getting it to stick. Honestly, there has to be a superstar in there somewhere if they can just develop him properly. Doesnt get as much of it as I'd like but there arent many who can do what he can. Maybe I just have a weakness for not valuing production as highly as I should but man is he a tease
Williams: Only played the 2nd half I believe, there is something there with his pace and disposal. I hope he gets another year but if he doesnt quite make it at AFL, will be an incredible WAFL player I'm sure
Stanley: Same as normal for Milky, very good ball in hand, needs to somehow find more of it. Keep building that tank and work rate
Voss: Treacy clone without the elite kicking, had some very angry tackles and can contribute outside kicking goals but possibly limited athletically. Better depth to have than Corbett IMO
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Interested in the comment about Banners being the best pressure player on the ground today. Last year the reason he was in the team was as a pressure forward yet his detractors kept going on about him not laying tackles. Is this pressure you referring a step up from last year or that it normally goes unnoticed watching on tv?
 

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Thought Fyfe was the best mid and best player on the field. I didn't think anyone was notably terrible, but just some players with bad errors at times, which happens in games, it's not really a bad sign imo.

Wingers were fine I thought and were involved when the ball was floating around the wings. I personally think they were quieter due to trying to use the corridor most of the time. NOD was OK, he got some moments and Sharp was handy too. Johnson was on the wing late game, and Stanley was also OK too. They weren't bad.

This was a game with an intense inside game thus it was the usual suspects that looked best imo. All the inside mids were quite ferocious and it looked awesome.

Thought Tabs had a good moment or two but yes, Treacy was the best fwd overall. Emmett actually I thought was very active too. He was fairly instrumental and played the Shultz role with lots of intensity. He had a real nice heavy tackle against an opponent, stopping them in their tracks.

A more visual writeup is on it's way too...
 
Footskill said:
Interested in the comment about Banners being the best pressure player on the ground today. Last year the reason he was in the team was as a pressure forward yet his detractors kept going on about him not laying tackles. Is this pressure you referring a step up from last year or that it normally goes unnoticed watching on tv?
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Personally I thought today was an improvement for him. I noticed lots of efforts and chases and he made an impact that way, more than I've noticed in a Freo game before.
 
gaskin said:
To be fair to him, when I used to go to training and he was there he was always up for a chat with anyone who wanted to speak to him. He seems like a decent bloke.
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He's definitely mellowed on Freo, was very anti when he started in the media, but has realised that his butter needs to be spread far and wide in a two team town. Took him a while to realise
 
Eski3 said:
The thing that annoys me about it is that the big successful clubs are never pessimistic. Pessimism is loser club mentality and perpetuates a cycle of underperformance. Some people seem to enjoy us being s**t, and the best way to keep that cycle going is to have a fan base that constantly shits all over the club and abuses the players so they don't enjoy playing together
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Champ you didn't spend any time on the Richmond board/media space pre-2017 did ya? By far the most checked out and pessimistic fan base I've seen.
 
wakojako said:
He has the resources of an AFL club behind him and time. If that's his biggest issue than simply get him a kicking coach and drill that every day until it becomes muscle memory.
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My concern with NOD is he looks like a baby giraffe when he runs (not balanced and smooth) and he doesn’t slow down and take a couple of short steps to get balanced when he kicks. Not saying he won’t make it, but he doesn’t have that side step in traffic like Johnson has. Given he is quick and he can get on the outside, the wing is probably a good spot for him, but he needs to improve


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