Toast Presidency and The Board

[jathanas]

Thank you 76woodenspooners

One of BigFooty’s all-time-favourite posters, Reykjavik , was all across the board level stuff. He once posted a list of the responsibilities of a Not-For-Profit board like that of Collingwood …

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NFP board responsibilities
Specific responsibilities of a not-for-profit (NFP) board include:

• Driving the strategic direction of the organisation
• Working with the CEO to enable the organisation to obtain the resources, funds and personnel necessary to implement the organisation's strategic objectives
• Implementing, maintaining and (as necessary) refining a system of good governance that is appropriate for the organisation
• Reviewing reports and monitoring the performance of the organisation
• Regularly reviewing the board's structure and composition, so that these are appropriate for the organisation
• Appointing – and managing the performance of – a suitable CEO
• Succession planning for the CEO

While the above points are also applicable to for-profit boards, NFP boards also face a unique range of issues, such as:

• Difficulties in defining and measuring organisational effectiveness
• Transgression of role boundaries
• The negative impact of the structural compositions of some NFP boards, including those arising from representative models
• Funding dependencies and constraints

In practice, the role of the board is to supervise an organisation's business in two broad areas:

1. Overall business performance - ensuring the organisation develops and implements strategies and supporting policies to enable it to fulfill the objectives set out in the organisation's constitution. The board delegates the day to day management of the organisation but remains accountable to the shareholders for the organisation's performance. The board monitors and supports management in an on-going way.
2. Overall compliance performance - ensuring the organisation develops and implements systems to enable it to comply with its legal and policy obligations (complying with statutes such as the Corporations Act 2001, adhering to accounting standards) and ensure the organisation's assets are protected through appropriate risk management.

http://www.companydirectors.com.au/...ctor/NFP-governance/The-role-of-the-NFP-board

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[jmac70]

You are the person who needs to be more specific!
When someone says diversity on a board is a good thing, what do they mean?

I imagine it has something to do with having people from diverse backgrounds on the board?

 

[Brodzingwood]

This seems like Browne knows he has got him beat to me, but tried to help and asked for a spot on the board previous, which is reasonable. Korda said no which seems a bit of a power play and then went and appointed a non voting member, which was obviously the last straw and he decided he can’t just leave us to be run like this. The way he is going about his challenge gives me some confidence in him

 

[frizzle]

Wouldn't be shocked if Murphy breaks away from Korda and declares his interest in the Presidency.

‘would it be fair to say he would get a fair chunk of votes if that happened?

 

[swoop42]

Browne needs to declare his position on the coach if an EGM is required as I suspect a lot of voting members will want that answered when considering who to vote for.

If Korda and Browne don't appreciate that the decision making process on Buckley will require clarification prior to any EGM then they really aren't very good at reading the mood of the supporters. If both Korda and Browne are on the same page on this issue (and will defer to Wright) then I don't really see a major point of difference between the candidates and I sense a lot of members wont be that engaged with the outcome.

If Browne is looking to oust Korda without an EGM being conducted in order to guarantee Buckley continues as coach of Collingwood then his instincts are different to mine because I get the real sense a significant majority of supporters (65-75%) are now in favour of change.

This will be the worst possible outcome.

 

[domus]

I imagine it has something to do with having people from diverse backgrounds on the board?

How in the name of all that is holy does that make for a better board? Do you mean if I get someone from Mooroolbark , raised by their grandparents and another person who was raised in West Footscray by a single mum that would lead to better outcomes for the Collingwood than if we had two people who both happened to have been raised in Box Hill and both had two parents?

Or does the diversity relate to their religious upbringing, their sexual preference, their professional occupation or hobbies?

I would have thought the only kind of diversity that matter is a diversity of thought and ideas and that can only be uncovered and explored by asking people for their opinions and ideas in an interview and could quite plausibly result in six women being the best choice for a diverse range of opinions , six men or a mix of both. But Brown and Korda don't say we went through an intense series of interviews to select the best candidates for our board. They announce that the board will have a mix of women and men as if the diversity of gender representation automatically leads to better outcomes.

 

[swoop42]

Will he suggest we keep Bucks and get rid of the assistants again?

That was Walsh.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Isn't brown pro Buckley?

I was told in April he was, but now I've heard things to the contrary.

In reality, I have no idea.

 

[jmac70]

How in the name of all that is holy does that make for a better board? Do you mean if I get someone from Mooroolbark , raised by their grandparents and another person who was raised in West Footscray by a single mum that would lead to better outcomes for the Collingwood than if we had two people who both happened to have been raised in Box Hill and both had two parents?

Or does the diversity relate to their religious upbringing, their sexual preference, their professional occupation or hobbies?

I would have thought the only kind of diversity that matter is a diversity of thought and ideas and that can only be uncovered and explored by asking people for their opinions and ideas in an interview and could quite plausibly result in six women being the best choice for a diverse range of opinions , six men or a mix of both. But Brown and Korda don't say we went through an intense series of interviews to select the best candidates for our board. They announce that the board will have a mix of women and men as if the diversity of gender representation automatically leads to better outcomes.

Diversity is absolutely necessary, not only at board level but throughout the club. We must be reflective of society and will be stronger for it.

 

[HenrikLundqvist]

How about everybody that has served on the board along with everybody who has had any relation to Eddie Mcguire in the past 10 years can **** off. All of these stooges are compromised and can't be trusted to make the right decision on Bucks or list management.

 

[Markfs]

Diversity is absolutely necessary, not only at board level but throughout the club. We must be reflective of society and will be stronger for it.

i'd prefer to be reflective of a board that wins premierships...

 

[Markfs]

Do people want either browne or korda to say "i'm going to change the coach"...

 

[JB1975]

This seems like Browne knows he has got him beat to me, but tried to help and asked for a spot on the board previous, which is reasonable. Korda said no which seems a bit of a power play and then went and appointed a non voting member, which was obviously the last straw and he decided he can’t just leave us to be run like this. The way he is going about his challenge gives me some confidence in him

Not sure I follow this.

You think it's 'reasonable' for Jeff Browne to be given a spot on the board, simply because he asked for it?

And then you accuse Korda of a 'power play' because he refused?

To put it bluntly, I'd be pretty disturbed if the board got into the habit of handing out a seat at the table simply because they asked for it, even if/especially that person is a good friend of Ed's.

I don't know enough about Korda or Browne to push a barrow for either (note: bribes will be accepted), but I have no issue with MK telling JB to f*** right off on this one.

If Browne has a plan, if he has something to say, then let him beat a bloody path to the big chair rather than expecting a blood-red carpet to be rolled out for him.

 

[JB1975]

Do people want either browne or korda to say "i'm going to change the coach"...

The answer to that is obvious.

We all want the contenders to tell us that they'll leave the Football Department to do its own thing whilst ensuring us that Buckley will be booted before next season...

Not too much to ask, is it?

 

[Markfs]

More meaningless waffle. You completely ignore what I said and go back to chanting a mindless mantra. So our police force would be at its very best as a public service if it truly reflected our society? So that would mean we must enlist amputees, quadriplegics, tiny people, short men and women, obese men and women, a proportional representation of every race and creed in Victoria.

How about you examine the purpose of the service first? Why do we have a police force? Is it so we can parade a mixture of people who look like our society or was it created to enforce the law and protect the citizens of the state? Once you understand the reasons for the existence of a service the only requirements you need to have met are whether or not the applicant is capable of enforcing the law and protecting the people they serve the people, Gender, creed, race and sexual orientation are entirely irrelevant. The hypocrisy of those who speak about diversity is that if there were intruders outside their house threatening to visit violence upon their person and a van with two police officers arrived-one being an obese female ( I have seen a number of people who fit this description in our police force) and a short, lightly built man, those same people would be gnashing their teeth as the intruders brushed the cops aside with disdain (I've seen this too) and began breaking down their front door.

The same can be said about our army, navy, fire fighters and many other professions which require a degree of physical strength and fitness as a non negotiable in order to carry out their job properly. If there are women who meet these requirements without the standards being lowered in order to ensure their qualification then all power to them. But you and I know this is not what is happening.

Best qualified get my vote every time. If they are all women, Pakistanis or Zulus I don't care. I would applaud their appointment wholeheartedly.

So I reckon we need a homeless man, a disabled person, a person from India and another from China, a single mum and at least one gay person on the Collingwood board if we are to progress. That would be a far better reflection of our society than what we currently have.

What would a diverse Collingwood footy team look like? Does being able to play the game count as one of the necessary qualifications?

So you expect collingwood presidents to break down doors and fight intruders outside the holden centre?

 

[domus]

So you expect collingwood presidents to break down doors and fight intruders outside the holden centre?

Correct. You can never be too sure when such a talent might be required. In fact the likelihood of a mob descending on the Holden Centre with evil intent is seeming more likely with each passing day.

 

[magpies42]

If Eddie was still here would be doing better than 2-9?

Would the salary cap/trading issues not have happened?

We are here because the club was run to this point and people are restless, this didn’t take 6 months to unravel.

Not implying that it unravelled in 6 months, I am highlighting that people asked for change without an idea of what a replacement would like. The assumption that change will make things better is inherently flawed.

Eddie did a lot right, and definitely more right than wrong. The salary cap issue is not unique to us, had we not been screwed by the umpires in the grand final nobody would be thinking twice. It’s an elite competition and margins are very small.

The organisation standing is largely due to Eddie, we will never find anybody as passionate, dedicated and devoted to the Collingwood football club to lead it. It can definitely get worse!

 

[magpies42]

Like... some sort of succession plan?

That was Eddies idea, there should have been a challenge whether in private or at the agm to give members the option for change. Change doesn’t necessarily mean a better outcome. That is my point.

 

[barrackers]

Which 3 board members get to stay?

Lica Sizer and...?

Anyone but Dr Birdbrain please.

Murphy and Licuria were the two who were rumoured a couple of weeks ago * to be the likely departures. I also can't see Korda staying on. That leaves Sizer, Holgate, Wilson and O'Donnell. Out of the last four Sizer and Wilson I feel would be safe.

* Before Browne announced he was feeling to discuss who stayed

 

[Scodog10]

Do people want either browne or korda to say "i'm going to change the coach"...

Neither of them has any reason to make a statement like that. As the incumbent Korda just sacks Buckley and Browne will be president by seasons end so he doesn’t need to comment on it. The only curveball is Murphy breaking rank and going on the record with it.

 

[Iskender Time]

Yessss.. burn it to the ground.

Let's build it back up with the right people.

This bloke and his mates the right people?

 

[HFF]

This bloke and his mates the right people?

as opposed to the current bloke and his mates running a circus?

Rejecting Browne’s request to join the board and then Putting on a board member who is anything but a Collingwood fan let alone a football fan with no voting rights? Spare me the mates angle.

 

[Markfs]

Neither of them has any reason to make a statement like that. As the incumbent Korda just sacks Buckley and Browne will be president by seasons end so he doesn’t need to comment on it. The only curveball is Murphy breaking rank and going on the record with it.

There's a lot of people saying that they want to hear policies.... so if "sack the coach" is not one of them, what are they?

 

[Chameleon75]

There's a lot of people saying that they want to hear policies.... so if "sack the coach" is not one of them, what are they?

term limits on the board?

 

[Markfs]

Browne needs to declare his position on the coach if an EGM is required as I suspect a lot of voting members will want that answered when considering who to vote for.

If Korda and Browne don't appreciate that the decision making process on Buckley will require clarification prior to any EGM then they really aren't very good at reading the mood of the supporters. If both Korda and Browne are on the same page on this issue (and will defer to Wright) then I don't really see a major point of difference between the candidates and I sense a lot of members wont be that engaged with the outcome.

If Browne is looking to oust Korda without an EGM being conducted in order to guarantee Buckley continues as coach of Collingwood then his instincts are different to mine because I get the real sense a significant majority of supporters (65-75%) are now in favour of change.

This will be the worst possible outcome.

You want the candidates to nominate whether there will be a change of coach....

 

[Markfs]

term limits on the board?

That's a good policy.... recommended by murphy in his report.... ignored by maguire.