Toast Presidency and The Board

[jathanas]

Thank you 76woodenspooners

One of BigFooty’s all-time-favourite posters, Reykjavik , was all across the board level stuff. He once posted a list of the responsibilities of a Not-For-Profit board like that of Collingwood …

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NFP board responsibilities
Specific responsibilities of a not-for-profit (NFP) board include:

• Driving the strategic direction of the organisation
• Working with the CEO to enable the organisation to obtain the resources, funds and personnel necessary to implement the organisation's strategic objectives
• Implementing, maintaining and (as necessary) refining a system of good governance that is appropriate for the organisation
• Reviewing reports and monitoring the performance of the organisation
• Regularly reviewing the board's structure and composition, so that these are appropriate for the organisation
• Appointing – and managing the performance of – a suitable CEO
• Succession planning for the CEO

While the above points are also applicable to for-profit boards, NFP boards also face a unique range of issues, such as:

• Difficulties in defining and measuring organisational effectiveness
• Transgression of role boundaries
• The negative impact of the structural compositions of some NFP boards, including those arising from representative models
• Funding dependencies and constraints

In practice, the role of the board is to supervise an organisation's business in two broad areas:

1. Overall business performance - ensuring the organisation develops and implements strategies and supporting policies to enable it to fulfill the objectives set out in the organisation's constitution. The board delegates the day to day management of the organisation but remains accountable to the shareholders for the organisation's performance. The board monitors and supports management in an on-going way.
2. Overall compliance performance - ensuring the organisation develops and implements systems to enable it to comply with its legal and policy obligations (complying with statutes such as the Corporations Act 2001, adhering to accounting standards) and ensure the organisation's assets are protected through appropriate risk management.

http://www.companydirectors.com.au/...ctor/NFP-governance/The-role-of-the-NFP-board

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[NMBB]

My guess reading between the lines, Buckley has reverted to self preservation and knows Korda will extend and Browne is not happy with his game plan so won’t.
Time will tell I guess but in the mean time concentrate on your job Bucks and stay out of the politics

Agree but atm Cwood is so political that it infests everything in its path ........just like a ........ virus

 

[Roverjg]

He never did that though, my gripe which i've stated many times is Hine being elevated to list manager, you don't promote the head recruiter to list manager under any circumstances, people talk about conflict of interest, that is the ultimate conflict of interest IMO, the proof is in the pudding.

I don't give a fu** what you guys think, sh*t turned south when Hine was promoted.

Geelong had no issues for 20+ years with Wells

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[Stax on the mill]

My guess reading between the lines, Buckley has reverted to self preservation and knows Korda will extend and Browne is not happy with his game plan so won’t.
Time will tell I guess but in the mean time concentrate on your job Bucks and stay out of the politics

Precisely. Buckley’s decision to go in to bat for the current board, is akin to a highly paid public servant publicly endorsing the government of the day. You just don’t do that. Very easy for someone with the media nous that Buckley possesses to deflect that sort of question if asked.

One only has to go back to 1962 to see the acrimony and fallout when the then Collingwood coach and players involved themselves in the presidential election between Jack Galbally and Tom Sherrin.

The Presidents: Tom Sherrin

Tom Sherrin served as President between 1963 - 1974.

forever.collingwoodfc.com.au

 

[JB1975]

My guess reading between the lines, Buckley has reverted to self preservation and knows Korda will extend and Browne is not happy with his game plan so won’t.

What gives you to believe that Korda wants to extend Buckley's contract?

What suggests that Jeff Browne would be more likely to move Buckley on?

It's hard enough for punters to make sense of what's going on without people making this sort of stuff up.

 

[piepark]

Ask Caro - she has 45 replies depending on who she's had coffee with most recently.

The Chris Scott, Ross Lyon and Clarkson rumour has been about for at least 4 months. She's a bit behind with that rumour. If it's true. I expect to see Ross Lyon at Carlton and who knows at Collingwood.

 

[jackcass]

It’s not misinterpreted.
She clearly played the man and not the ball....that’s my problem with this board.

The board shouldn’t be asking questions of the challenger, they should be asking questions of themselves and answer as to why they should stay...because the evidence of the last few years has made us a laughing stock under their governance

Rubbish. She addressed the coup. You just choose to misinterpret. Suits an agenda I guess.

 

[jackcass]

Responding to the last bits about what the members would have expected—-no other club that has challenged, ever went through what we did.
Whilst we expect things—-these people are on the board to ensure that it doesn’t go out of control...that’s what governance is.
Kicking the problem down the road for another day waiting for it to blow up ...isn’t governance.
Its failure.

As such accountability needs to be held and those responsible should be made to answer for it.

How do you know other clubs haven’t pushed TPP boundaries?

 

[jackcass]

Because if the current board were not worried about Browne, there would be no need to even acknowledge him. The fact they are on the defensive shows they know there is legitimate dissatisfaction with the board within
the membership.

LOL, it was an interview. She was just answering the questions put to her. It’s hardly defensive to tell him to take his demands and shove them.

 

[jackcass]

I’m talking blowing up a salary cap so bad that you had to firesale

What we did was the first of its kind
Mismanaged like never before

When was the last time a club in the window struggling to keep their player group together had to deal with effectively an 11% cut in TPP?

 

[jackcass]

Hawthorn, West Coast, Richmond and Geelong fans disagree.

Your insistence that the club is run well and has been run well is interesting ... to say the least... Given known events and current situation.

Who has said that the club was being run well? All I’m reading is that people are saying the club has implemented some significant changes, how about we wait and see what they yield. That’s hardly a denial of past sins even though it’s generally the response we get here, put a counter argument you clearly think everything is rosy. Just lazy thinking.

 

[jackcass]

Judd and Dangerfield’s former clubs were compensated as well, we were not.

Yes we were, we just didn’t think it was adequate compo.

 

[pietoon]

What gives you to believe that Korda wants to extend Buckley's contract?

What suggests that Jeff Browne would be more likely to move Buckley on?

It's hard enough for punters to make sense of what's going on without people making this sort of stuff up.

Like I said it’s my read on Buckley getting drawn into the politics, when it would of been easy for him to brush the question aside.

I ask you this do you think Buckley would of gone into bat for Korda if he thought he was going to sack him ?

And just out of curiosity have you ever speculated in any of your posts ?

We both know the answer to that so stop being a hypocrite.

 

[Markfs]

It looks more and more to me that Mark Korda needs to walk away. The people promoting Browne seem to have a single argument that those responsible should be held accountable.... so Korda needs to go. Move the presidency to someone else on the board and the whole situation is diffused. The rest of the board are recent enough to escape the criticism. If Browne wants to come on board, he can apply for one of the three vacancies at the next AGM.

 

[Civilest]

So Jodie Sizer has come out and said she will not serve under Browne. Very strong words claiming he has no idea about the complexities of the situation and basically reverting back to the 'old boys club' driven by ego.

Big statement as I would have thought he may have seen her as one of the 3 incumbent board members.

I think I read Browne wants Sizer, Holgate and Wilson to stay on.

 

[Markfs]

My guess reading between the lines, Buckley has reverted to self preservation and knows Korda will extend and Browne is not happy with his game plan so won’t.
Time will tell I guess but in the mean time concentrate on your job Bucks and stay out of the politics

My guess is pretty much the opposite. Buckley has a lot of choices in life and I dont think he is supporting the current board for his own benefit. I hope Jeff Browne has told Buckley's manager that he is not going to extend buckley's contract.

 

[Chameleon75]

Like I said it’s my read on Buckley getting drawn into the politics, when it would of been easy for him to brush the question aside.

I ask you this do you think Buckley would of gone into bat for Korda if he thought he was going to sack him ?

And just out of curiosity have you ever speculated in any of your posts ?

We both know the answer to that so stop being a hypocrite.

Every employee would pledge support to the incumbent board publicly, just like every backbencher pledges loyalty to the leader publicly. It’s meaningless.

 

[Scritchyscroony]

Who has said that the club was being run well? All I’m reading is that people are saying the club has implemented some significant changes, how about we wait and see what they yield. That’s hardly a denial of past sins even though it’s generally the response we get here, put a counter argument you clearly think everything is rosy. Just lazy thinking.

For starters.. the poster I responded to has been attempting to say just that: i.e. that we haven't made significant offield errors. You yourself have argued consistently that our trade period was somehow a cunning plan. Happy to pull up your posts if needed. You, and some others seem obsessed with maintaining status quo and challenging anyone who challenges it. There has been gross incompetence by incumbents. The whole planet knows it except for a few interesting types on here it seems. The notion that the same people who oversaw the disaster of the last 12 months are the same people we should trust with "implementing significant improvements" in the future is the definition of "lazy thinking" in my view. It reflects an attitude of the privileged elite.. we are safe no matter how much we screw things up. Deflections, plausible deniability, zero accountability.
Change is needed. change is good.

 

[Civilest]

LOL, it was an interview. She was just answering the questions put to her. It’s hardly defensive to tell him to take his demands and shove them.

I think the power and privilege thing was a premeditated smear. The current board are hypocrites because, IMO, they exploited their indigenous colleague to play that card. It’s better to take the “you’ll have to ask Jeff Browne” approach in the interview if there was no guilty conscious. She could have gone on to say “here are the specific things we are going to do going forward therefore the current board should be retained”

 

[NMBB]

Every employee would pledge support to the incumbent board publicly, just like every backbencher pledges loyalty to the leader publicly. It’s meaningless.

Coodabeens.... full support of the Board

 

[regpies]

The Chris Scott, Ross Lyon and Clarkson rumour has been about for at least 4 months. She's a bit behind with that rumour. If it's true. I expect to see Ross Lyon at Carlton and who knows at Collingwood.

We already have the modern day Ross Lyon.

Low scoring, heavy defence, terrible to watch, all Ross Lyon team traits. All traits we have had to watch the last couple years.

 

[MyManLynch]

For starters.. the poster I responded to has been attempting to say just that: i.e. that we haven't made significant offield errors. You yourself have argued consistently that our trade period was somehow a cunning plan. Happy to pull up your posts if needed. You, and some others seem obsessed with maintaining status quo and challenging anyone who challenges it. There has been gross incompetence by incumbents. The whole planet knows it except for a few interesting types on here it seems. The notion that the same people who oversaw the disaster of the last 12 months are the same people we should trust with "implementing significant improvements" in the future is the definition of "lazy thinking" in my view. It reflects an attitude of the privileged elite.. we are safe no matter how much we screw things up. Deflections, plausible deniability, zero accountability.
Change is needed. change is good.

See Ranold McDonald...change can also be bad.

 

[Roverjg]

When was the last time a club in the window struggling to keep their player group together had to deal with effectively an 11% cut in TPP?

17 other clubs have coped thus far... Collingwood was not the only club having to deal with cuts to TPP. Collingwood was the only club who needed a fire sale

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[Roverjg]

I think I read Browne wants Sizer, Holgate and Wilson to stay on.

That has changed following Sizers interview. He supposedly now has 6 on his ticket

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[NMBB]

Mods - please fix thread title - should be "launching" - currently seems like a cross between raunchy and lunch! - which might well be the case anyway

 

[MyManLynch]

That has changed following Sizers interview. He supposedly now has 6 on his ticket

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That changed once the current board rejected his offer.
Then Browne new he had to find his own board...