Toast Presidency and The Board

[jathanas]

Thank you 76woodenspooners

One of BigFooty’s all-time-favourite posters, Reykjavik , was all across the board level stuff. He once posted a list of the responsibilities of a Not-For-Profit board like that of Collingwood …

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NFP board responsibilities
Specific responsibilities of a not-for-profit (NFP) board include:

• Driving the strategic direction of the organisation
• Working with the CEO to enable the organisation to obtain the resources, funds and personnel necessary to implement the organisation's strategic objectives
• Implementing, maintaining and (as necessary) refining a system of good governance that is appropriate for the organisation
• Reviewing reports and monitoring the performance of the organisation
• Regularly reviewing the board's structure and composition, so that these are appropriate for the organisation
• Appointing – and managing the performance of – a suitable CEO
• Succession planning for the CEO

While the above points are also applicable to for-profit boards, NFP boards also face a unique range of issues, such as:

• Difficulties in defining and measuring organisational effectiveness
• Transgression of role boundaries
• The negative impact of the structural compositions of some NFP boards, including those arising from representative models
• Funding dependencies and constraints

In practice, the role of the board is to supervise an organisation's business in two broad areas:

1. Overall business performance - ensuring the organisation develops and implements strategies and supporting policies to enable it to fulfill the objectives set out in the organisation's constitution. The board delegates the day to day management of the organisation but remains accountable to the shareholders for the organisation's performance. The board monitors and supports management in an on-going way.
2. Overall compliance performance - ensuring the organisation develops and implements systems to enable it to comply with its legal and policy obligations (complying with statutes such as the Corporations Act 2001, adhering to accounting standards) and ensure the organisation's assets are protected through appropriate risk management.

http://www.companydirectors.com.au/...ctor/NFP-governance/The-role-of-the-NFP-board

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[Anzacday]

Mods - please fix thread title - should be "launching" - currently seems like a cross between raunchy and lunch! - which might well be the case anyway

Finally someone noticed.
It could just as easily have been updated to lurching

 

[mike123]

Yes we were, we just didn’t think it was adequate compo.

Same difference

 

[NMBB]

Finally someone noticed.
It could just as easily have been updated to lurching

despite what some think ........ I'm here to help and maintain standards

 

[No SPIN]

17 other clubs have coped thus far... Collingwood was not the only club having to deal with cuts to TPP. Collingwood was the only club who needed a fire sale

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way way to early to say all 17 Clubs will not suffer.

 

[Chameleon75]

despite what some think ........ I'm here to help and maintain standards

our cheer squad may need your assistance with their banners

 

[Scritchyscroony]

See Ranold McDonald...change can also be bad.

Is that what has you spooked?
McDonald was in the era before salary caps and soft caps and drafts. It was a different world. Basically every club in the VFL had major financial issues in that era. At least McDonald had the decency to step down and allow a transition.

When the leadership you have now is bad... and has been shown to be asleep at the wheel, you change. You don't wait around and see if they will be better in the future. If ever there's been an organisation that needs major change at board level it's us. It can't be done gently or half-arsed.

 

[Markfs]

Finally someone noticed.
It could just as easily have been updated to lurching

to reflect corporate australia, it should be "lunching"

 

[JB1975]

Like I said it’s my read on Buckley getting drawn into the politics, when it would of been easy for him to brush the question aside.

I ask you this do you think Buckley would of gone into bat for Korda if he thought he was going to sack him ?

And just out of curiosity have you ever speculated in any of your posts ?

We both know the answer to that so stop being a hypocrite.

An aggressive reply, not sure why.

I've speculated plenty, never suggested that I haven't. My post was simply asking you the basis of your speculation and you decided to give me a backhander for it.

As far as Buckley's support for Korda, I'd be very f****** surprised if any coach in the same situation would offer anything other than support to the status quo. It'd be downright odd for a coach with his head on the chopping block to antagonise a potential executioner.

And yes, he could have brushed the question aside, but he'd be inviting further speculation and attention in doing that.

 

[Civilest]

That has changed following Sizers interview. He supposedly now has 6 on his ticket

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I see. Maybe Browne would have been better served to continue to value Sizer despite the interview comments? Being magnanimous and showing you value dissenting opinions and all that jazz.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I actually have no issue with board members having direct family connections at the club.
Transparency, Governance & professionalism would cover that.
I have no objection to either Moore or Kelly.
I just don’t want to see a coup take place.

Moore or Kelly would be unable to be involved in any list management decisions or oversight, or salary cap/negotiations or oversight, whilst their sons are on the list. Or in Kelly's case, any decisions around Buckley. They'd be as useful as ODonnell who isnt even allowed to vote

 

[No SPIN]

I find it interesting that the critics of the current board are the same people that thought ED controlled everything.

If that indeed was the case, then this board had little to answer for, making claims of culpability, as the reason for change completely illogical.

It could easily be argued the current board, with it’s intimate knowledge of the issues, are best placed to drive the Club forward having emerged from the shadow of ED.

 

[Markfs]

Moore or Kelly would be unable to be involved in any list management decisions or oversight, or salary cap/negotiations or oversight, whilst their sons are on the list. Or in Kelly's case, any decisions around Buckley. They'd be as useful as ODonnell who isnt even allowed to vote

Gee I'd hate to see the day when the board is making decisions about who is on the list. That doesnt mean of course, that a player might stay on the list because his father is on the board...

have a look at the SOS situation at carlton and you be the judge...

in fact, you could argue whether callum brown was drafted because of his father.... who was coaching at another club.

 

[Stax on the mill]

I find it interesting that the critics of the current board are the same people that thought ED controlled everything.

If that indeed was the case, then this board had little to answer for, making claims of culpability, as the reason for change completely illogical.

It could easily be argued the current board, with it’s intimate knowledge of the issues, are best placed to drive the Club forward having emerged from the shadow of ED.

Not sure that I could respect or trust members of a board going forward, which has allowed itself to be so subservient to Eddie.

 

[jackcass]

For starters.. the poster I responded to has been attempting to say just that: i.e. that we haven't made significant offield errors. You yourself have argued consistently that our trade period was somehow a cunning plan. Happy to pull up your posts if needed. You, and some others seem obsessed with maintaining status quo and challenging anyone who challenges it. There has been gross incompetence by incumbents. The whole planet knows it except for a few interesting types on here it seems. The notion that the same people who oversaw the disaster of the last 12 months are the same people we should trust with "implementing significant improvements" in the future is the definition of "lazy thinking" in my view. It reflects an attitude of the privileged elite.. we are safe no matter how much we screw things up. Deflections, plausible deniability, zero accountability.
Change is needed. change is good.

Change is change, neither good nor bad. It’s the outcomes that determine that.

Happy for you to show me where I’ve suggested our trade period was “somehow a cunning plan”.

I’ve been very clear and consistent in what I’ve said, it’s you dealing with what you think I’m saying that’s the issue.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Gee I'd hate to see the day when the board is making decisions about who is on the list. That doesnt mean of course, that a player might stay on the list because his father is on the board...

have a look at the SOS situation at carlton and you be the judge...

in fact, you could argue whether callum brown was drafted because of his father.... who was coaching at another club.

If you dont see a conflict of interest then I cant help you. It can be managed but it does reduce the effectiveness of the board if they have to sit out on football an salary discussions... which is what a football clubs main role is. I'd rather Browne had other candidates fighting in his corner.

 

[pietoon]

An aggressive reply, not sure why.

I've speculated plenty, never suggested that I haven't. My post was simply asking you the basis of your speculation and you decided to give me a backhander for it.

As far as Buckley's support for Korda, I'd be very f****** surprised if any coach in the same situation would offer anything other than support to the status quo. It'd be downright odd for a coach with his head on the chopping block to antagonise a potential executioner.

And yes, he could have brushed the question aside, but he'd be inviting further speculation and attention in doing that.

Lol what part is so aggressive ?

I was replying to your double standards that I was confusing everyone with making stuff up after I had said it was my read and my guess, I’m sorry such aggressiveness hurt your feelings.

Buckley very easy could of batted it away like Wright did during the week, but he chose to get involved which has created far more speculation.

Like I said he would be better to concentrate on his job, that he is doing inadequately at the moment.

 

[jackcass]

I think the power and privilege thing was a premeditated smear. The current board are hypocrites because, IMO, they exploited their indigenous colleague to play that card. It’s better to take the “you’ll have to ask Jeff Browne” approach in the interview if there was no guilty conscious. She could have gone on to say “here are the specific things we are going to do going forward therefore the current board should be retained”

Oh it’s definitely a smear. You’ve just fixated on the wrong target. It’s the coup, not Browne the individual.

 

[jackcass]

17 other clubs have coped thus far... Collingwood was not the only club having to deal with cuts to TPP. Collingwood was the only club who needed a fire sale

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Just as we’ve coped. People just don’t like how we coped.

 

[No SPIN]

Not sure that I could respect or trust members of a board going forward, which has allowed itself to be so subservient to Eddie.

Who is the big personality that they now need to accommodate- there is only one ED.

 

[jackcass]

Same difference

Of course, not enough = nothing. Must have missed that in math and accounting classes.

 

[HFF]

When was the last time a club in the window struggling to keep their player group together had to deal with effectively an 11% cut in TPP?

Dude this happened before the cap reduction.
Stop making excuses
No other challenger has ever done what we did—-all clubs in the same environment yet only Collingwood somehow mismanaged it.
Shambles

Geelong brought in Cameron, Smith and Higgins.
but you’re right....they didn’t have to deal with the same cap reductions like we did.

 

[HFF]

Rubbish. She addressed the coup. You just choose to misinterpret. Suits an agenda I guess.

lol what agenda?
The clubs success is all I care about.
Those who cannot deliver it, can go on their way.
simple stuff
The problem you have is...you don’t seem to like change or holding people accountable for poor governance or performance

 

[Billys Back]

I think I read Browne wants Sizer, Holgate and Wilson to stay on.

Looks like he isn’t going to get her.
I just wonder whether Browne has completely misread this. I have to say as each week goes by I hope an alternative ticket to Browne with a proper, considered plan and board appears. Not to say they will be successful, but if this is what we can expect of Browne, it will be disastrous for the club.

 

[AndrewShawble]

Damian Barrett on SEN today saying we still need to shed 550-800k worth of salaries, the mess continues on that front.

Let’s not forget the shedding of players started with Aish in 2019, not just last years ‘firesale’.

Be interesting if the real culprits behind all this are made clear.
Is it those that have left or those that remain?

 

[Dan Moody]

Looks like he isn’t going to get her.
I just wonder whether Browne has completely misread this. I have to say as each week goes by I hope an alternative ticket to Browne with a proper, considered plan and board appears. Not to say they will be successful, but if this is what we can expect of Browne, it will be disastrous for the club.

I read this as a compensation offer, I have no doubt that he would already have compiled a ready made board.