Preview R12: Changes v Wet Toast @ AO

[maxlilly]

From what i have seen of Worrall in the SANFL, I rate him highly. Cant see why he hasn't had a go. That left foot has good penetration in it.

Strange not giving him a run in the AFL this season, especially when we have been short of talls down back.
He sometimes doesn't look strong enough in 1v1 and got torched by Dan Menzel in the game against WWT
Still don't understand why we haven't given him a run up forward

 

[CrowBloke]

why some players are picked relentlessly- and why others never get another go.

It's a good question; I wonder the same thing, often, so I am of no help to you.

The only things I can think of are:
--- that the Coaches/Selectors have well-defined criteria (hopefully that they make clear to players) and
--- that they have insights and understanding of individual players and their within-team networks with other players that they believe will result in a winning combo.
That would contain info of which we have no knowledge, being outside "the circle", so to speak.

 

[Gtowncrow]

He was pretty comfortably our worst, outside of Milera. Finished as a player. We need to cut our losses and move on. Bringing him back only delays any development that's occuring and will lengthen our period in the doldrums. Club needs to be prepared to make a tough call. Well... an easy, no-brainer call anyway.

It's time to give McHenry a run on the ball. Is he in Year 4? He can't be putting in any more effort than he does. Trying to impact the game from a permanent small forward's role is difficult as we've seen with multiple midfielders previously. Similarly Murphy is a stoppage midfielder or nothing. Complete waste playing him up forward. Those guys need centre square time. If there's not room for Murphy in the centre square rotations then he doesn't play.

Keays and Hately have shown some versatility in that they can still find the footy when they start on the wing or at half forward. This is good and means we should be able to expand our midfield rotation. The rigid structure we seem welded to needs to go.

Excellent post. Thoughtful.
I agree with Ned particularly. He has the potential to be a better version of Laird if allowed to play the position. He's more tenacious which, in tight, is perfect.
But for now, we'll just play him as a struggling small forward and complain about him.

I'm happy if he's dropped for a few weeks so long as he plays midfield in the SANFL to test him out.

 

[CrowBloke]

Bring in borlase and not frampton for god sake. I trust borlase to defend 1 v1 and he can execute foot skills. Time to give him a go at AFL level.

It's a measure of how badly they're playing that several posters are calling for Frampton --- who is a proven non-performer except for a game and a half this year --- to return.

 

[Gtowncrow]

See, I wonder if it’s borne of frustration with him?

He’s a senior player, getting paid, and they’re frustrated with his lack of progress or work ethic. Dropping him in the deep end to sink or swim, trying to shake him out of a malaise

Now, I don’t know. It’s no more than a theory, pure speculation, but something just doesn’t add up

I've thought that too. It's like a performance appraisal where both coaches and player gather current and relevant measure of the situation.

If I was doing the appraisal and after last weeks game, I'd be dropping him immediately with some clear KPI's to achieve before he gets another call up.

 

[SellarStardom]

Excellent post. Thoughtful.
I agree with Ned particularly. He has the potential to be a better version of Laird if allowed to play the position. He's more tenacious which, in tight, is perfect.
But for now, we'll just play him as a struggling small forward and complain about him.

I'm happy if he's dropped for a few weeks so long as he plays midfield in the SANFL to test him out.

Can't agree more, we might as well pickNewchurch and play him midfield as is the stupidity of midfielders as small forwards

 

[Crow till I die]

It's a measure of how badly they're playing that several posters are calling for Frampton --- who is a proven non-performer except for a game and a half this year --- to return.

Look i felt earlier that frampton might make it as a defender at AFL level. Good kick and intercept mark, but he got slaughtered 1 v 1 when he had to play as such which has to be a defenders 1 wood. The other stuff makes for a good all round game when they CAN defend 1 v 1.

Get borlase in so he can show what he has got

 

[Gtowncrow]

In: Walker, Cook, Jones, Frampton, Rachele
Out: Butts (inj), Crouch, Brown, Milera, McHenry (sub)

B: Hinge Murray Frampton
HB: Smith O’Brien Laird
C: Hamill Dawson Cook
HF: Rachele Walker Jones
F: Rowe McAdam Fogarty
R: Thilthorpe Doedee Keays
I: Berry Hately Soligo Murphy
Sub: McHenry

Thilthorpe, Doedee, Dawson on the ball.

O’Brien to CHB and Laird to the back lines - rotating for some time on the ball during the match. Give McHenry some minutes on ball.

Frampton to play Doedee’s role as a loose back.

Jones to play as a pressure forward, with some time on-ball.

I can't see anything this radical happening but you make some very interesting moves. Not crazy... just radical.

 

[Ciao Giacomo]

? What’s your point

His point is that once again you are 100% WRONG.

Murphy played as a midfielder in the TAC but was NOT drafted. He joined our SANFL team as a TOP-UP player (and worked in Crowmania) and played as a defender in the SANFL.

A few fans that watch SANFL like Bicks and I were hoping he would be drafted.

There is an interview with Murphy after we picked him up in the rookie draft (google is your friend Colonel). He said that Pyke called him after Charlie decided to leave and Pykey asked if he would be interested in being drafted as a SMALL FORWARD. His answer was absoheckin'lutely.

We never recruited him as a TOP-UP player to play midfield. We never drafted him as a midfielder. All of that is simply in your head.

Next……..

 

[CroCop]

He is just too slow and has no mobility. That's not going to change. I saw him beaten to the ball by a not very quick sanfl defender and he couldn't even get close enough to apply any pressure. He also plays with zero intensity.

He unfortunately is a failed costly early pic

That’s what is annoying , he was all these things in under 18s also and we picked him at pick 6 . He maybe dominated at that level due to his height but watching him play and just his running style alone screamed “stay away “ . How can recruiter not see this .

 

[Sanders]

His point is that once again you are 100% WRONG.

Murphy played as a midfielder in the TAC but was NOT drafted. He joined our SANFL team as a TOP-UP player (and worked in Crowmania) and played as a defender in the SANFL.

A few fans that watch SANFL like Bicks and I were hoping he would be drafted.

There is an interview with Murphy after we picked him up in the rookie draft (google is your friend Colonel). He said that Pyke called him after Charlie decided to leave and Pykey asked if he would be interested in being drafted as a SMALL FORWARD. His answer was abso*****lutely.

We never recruited him as a TOP-UP player to play midfield. We never drafted him as a midfielder. All of that is simply in your head.

Next……..

Oh Marcel… I’d be interested in that interview as it would indeed change things.

Any chance it exists?

 

[arsene wenger1]

Out of curiosity how does everyone see Soligos season so far.

Pleasantly surprised. I like his balance between toughness and a touch of class. Something this team lacks

It’s usually one or the other

 

[Ciao Giacomo]

Oh Marcel… I’d be interested in that interview as it would indeed change things.

Any chance it exists?

Just google it. I have heard it several times since he was drafted.

In fact you may have been one of the few Crows “fans” that haven’t heard it.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Am getting sick of these Saturday early day time games. That’s four or five so far this year.

and living in Perth, the game starts before midday. What a waste of a day watching these putz run around.

 

[Sanders]

Just google it. I have heard it several times since he was drafted.

In fact you may have been one of the few Crows “fans” that haven’t heard it.

so you couldn’t find it.

 

[Dudersaurus]

Tex isn’t Wayne Carey and is also on back end of career

But there was a guy called Corey Mckernan that went ok

Horse went ok in that forward line too.

 

[Jetsteam]

He is just too slow and has no mobility. That's not going to change. I saw him beaten to the ball by a not very quick sanfl defender and he couldn't even get close enough to apply any pressure. He also plays with zero intensity.

He unfortunately is a failed costly early pick.

Hi do not post often so be gentle.
If I was Matthew Nicks I would have a meeting with Darren Burgess and a psychologist.
Burgo determines whether he can fix the lad physically ,if necessary take him out of the SANFL and just work on strength, running . Burgo is also a very good motivator, Have the psych work on his attitude etc.
I know last chance saloon. Sometimes it is difficult to see what is right in front of you and then do something about it. Call it personal time. Let him spend some time at home with a burgo schedule and lots of time here.
At 21 he could still become a KPD. With additional strength and speed he might actually start to believe in himself.

 

[Mego Red]

I'm not sure that McAsey is slow - I AM sure that he doesn't move with conviction and trots around, not getting to enough contests.

He has good hands, a great kick and is a decent decision maker. But he's just not getting near the ball and is doing 2/5 of f*** all. I don't know how we change that.

 

[George Kramer]

I'm not sure that McAsey is slow - I AM sure that he doesn't move with conviction and trots around, not getting to enough contests.

He has good hands, a great kick and is a decent decision maker. But he's just not getting near the ball and is doing 2/5 of f*** all. I don't know how we change that.

Have you watched him live and up close? He was 20 metres in front of me on Friday night and he’s slow

 

[hey shorty]

for his sake, I hope not. If he can’t get a game in the seniors side at the moment with his solid form, then he’ll never play firsts here.

Shame, he will go to Geelong and play 200.

He's far too young to play for them yet.

They've already maxed their youth quota

 

[Maddogmetro]

so you couldn’t find it.

I do hate this approach to arguments.

'This happened!'

'Prove it...'

'Prove it yourself!'

Umm, if you make the claim, you need to back it up with sources. Obvs he doesn't have sources.

 

[Crow till I die]

I'm not sure that McAsey is slow - I AM sure that he doesn't move with conviction and trots around, not getting to enough contests.

He has good hands, a great kick and is a decent decision maker. But he's just not getting near the ball and is doing 2/5 of f*** all. I don't know how we change that.

Its almost like he needs to get urgent out there. What is the trigger for him personally to switch on and not coast so to speak

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

I do hate this approach to arguments.

'This happened!'

'Prove it...'

'Prove it yourself!'

Umm, if you make the claim, you need to back it up with sources. Obvs he doesn't have sources.

Prove that you hate this approach to arguments.

 

[Maddogmetro]

Prove that you hate this approach to arguments.

Prove it yourself!

 

[CrowBloke]

Hi do not post often so be gentle.
If I was Matthew Nicks I would have a meeting with Darren Burgess and a psychologist.
Burgo determines whether he can fix the lad physically ,if necessary take him out of the SANFL and just work on strength, running . Burgo is also a very good motivator, Have the psych work on his attitude etc.
I know last chance saloon. Sometimes it is difficult to see what is right in front of you and then do something about it. Call it personal time. Let him spend some time at home with a burgo schedule and lots of time here.
At 21 he could still become a KPD. With additional strength and speed he might actually start to believe in himself.

+

I'm not sure that McAsey is slow - I AM sure that he doesn't move with conviction and trots around, not getting to enough contests.
He has good hands, a great kick and is a decent decision maker. But he's just not getting near the ball and is doing 2/5 of f*** all. I don't know how we change that.

i think suggestion by Jetsteam is worth a go.
My take on the McAsey McMystery is that he's jogging through his contract and will go home as soon as he can, but I have no proof.

Someone needs to ask him in open and honest discourse, without threat of dropping/delisting:
"Fisch, we chose you @ #6 because we believed in you. Please tell us straight out, do you want to play AFL for the Crows? What can we do, to get the best out of you?".
His answers might be a pleasant surprise and solve things one way or another.