Opinion Rank these players in order from 1-6: Gary Ablett Jnr, Nathan Buckley,James Hird, Chris Judd, Dustin Martin, Michael Voss

[theasian]

Just a really strange list, there's a lot of players you'd include in between each spot.

These six were chosen mainly because they are generally regarded as the six best Mids who played footy in the 21st century.

Feel free to add any other names inbetween and rank them.

 

[theasian]

Would love to know from older Tigers supporters if Dusty is their number one.

IMO KB would be tough to beat.

Has the finals pedigree which the Ricmond supporters value so highly.

 

[Cyclonus]

Rank these players in order from 1-6.

Gary Ablett Jnr, Nathan Buckley, James Hird. Chris Judd, Dustin Martin, Michael Voss.

No.

 

[Philth]

Ablett Jnr (the GOAT)
Voss (my favourite ever player)
Martin
Hird
Judd
Buckley.

All are champions. You could mix up the order of 2-6 and you'd still be right.

 

[GWT6]

It can depend if I'm rating them as peak or career. Ablett is the clear number one for career IMO - but one game on the line, I think I take peak Voss.

(*I've excluded Hird because there are serious questions over his involvement with PED's while he was playing. Shane Carter was is personal conditioning coach and the mysterious foot injury suddenly disappeared after he served his time)

Peak;

1) Voss
2) Judd
3) Martin
4) Ablett
5) Buckley

Career

1) Ablett
2) Martin
3) Voss
4) Judd
5) Buckley

I don't really feel like Buckley deserves to be in this group. If he wasn't a Collingwood player he wouldn't be. Ben Cousins, Shane Crawford, Robert Harvey, Simon Black, Aker, Ricciuto were all a similar level to Buckley. I'd replace him with Adam Goodes in this poll.

 

[GWT6]

IMO KB would be tough to beat.

Has the finals pedigree which the Ricmond supporters value so highly.

Ahh - are you aware that Martin has 3 Norm Smith medals???..........

 

[GWT6]

I’d take Hodge ahead of Mitchell and Bontompelli and Petracca are making in roads.

Barring a significant injury Oliver will be in the mix of players in the OP - currently the best player of the past few years.

 

[JackOutback]

You can add Mcleod danger & Fyfe to the list.

I see them in the 2nd tier just below these six.

Feel free to add them and rank all of them !

Pavlich and Cox also stiff to miss out.

Of the six...
1) Ablett Jr
2) Judd
Bee's dick between these two, with Judd's best higher, imo.
3) Buckley
4) Voss
Also hard to split.
5) Hird
6) Martin

 

[theasian]

Ahh - are you aware that Martin has 3 Norm Smith medals???..........

I do. And that is why Richmond supporters tout around that Martin is the Goat.

But KB also has similar finals pedigree. Norm Smith Medal wasn't around when he won 4 of the 5 GF's and he did win one when available.

He is also rated by most experts in the Top 20 players of All Time and was nominated for TOTC though not making the cut.

So , would be tough for Martin to beat KB.

 

[theasian]

Barring a significant injury Oliver will be in the mix of players in the OP - currently the best player of the past few years.

Don't think he'll be in the mix of players in the OP, but definitely will be in the 2nd tier.

Needs to be a goal scoring mid or be Diesel level to get in to the mix. if he has 5-6 30+ Possesions and 0.5 + goals per game seasons could be a chance.

 

[theasian]

It can depend if I'm rating them as peak or career. Ablett is the clear number one for career IMO - but one game on the line, I think I take peak Voss.

(*I've excluded Hird because there are serious questions over his involvement with PED's while he was playing. Shane Carter was is personal conditioning coach and the mysterious foot injury suddenly disappeared after he served his time)

Peak;

1) Voss
2) Judd
3) Martin
4) Ablett
5) Buckley

Career

1) Ablett
2) Martin
3) Voss
4) Judd
5) Buckley

I don't really feel like Buckley deserves to be in this group. If he wasn't a Collingwood player he wouldn't be. Ben Cousins, Shane Crawford, Robert Harvey, Simon Black, Aker, Ricciuto were all a similar level to Buckley. I'd replace him with Adam Goodes in this poll.

Bucks was included, because despite not winning a premiership (which obviously marks him down ) he did win the Individual accolades -Brownlow, Normy (Perhaps undeserved) was elite for a very long time, a damaging goal/game mid who also won plenty of the ball, Highly skilled (IMO best kick out of the lot) and dragged his team to two GFs.

Do agree with you that playing for Colligwood has raised his profile though.

 

[Xtreme]

Rank these players in order from 1-6.

Gary Ablett Jnr, Nathan Buckley, James Hird. Chris Judd, Dustin Martin, Michael Voss.

1. Dusty
2. Voss
3. Buckley
4. Judd
5. Hird
6. GAJ

 

[HarryBeef]

Ahh - are you aware that Martin has 3 Norm Smith medals???..........

Ahh, are you aware the Norm Smith medal is a relatively new award?

 

[darcytiger]

Ahh - are you aware that Martin has 3 Norm Smith medals???..........

Should check out KB’s grand final stats, unbelievable! Could have 3 or even 4 norms if they were around in his time.

Actually just double checked, should have 2 norms. Sheeds, actually should have 2 too. Didn’t expect that.

 

[STRONGandBALD]

Ahh, are you aware the Norm Smith medal is a relatively new award?

Started in 1979. That’s a while ago now.

 

[theasian]

Should check out KB’s grand final stats, unbelievable! Could have 3 or even 4 norms if they were around in his time.

Actually just double checked, should have 2 norms. Sheeds, actually should have 2 too. Didn’t expect that.

The Plumber was a good big game performer.

Explains his mentality at Essendon as well.

 

[HarryBeef]

Started in 1979. That’s a while ago now.

Since the conversation was about Bartlett your post is completely useless.

 

[Sttew]

Gary Ablett Jnr - the best player
Dustin Martin - the best player in big games
Chris Judd - the second best player
Michael Voss - the second best player in big games
James Hird - best of the rest
Nathan Buckley - second best of the rest

No disrespect to any though.

This thread should ban that poster straight away if it wants any chance of life.

Like the explanation

 

[Tandy]

Ablett Jnr
Hird
Voss
Buckley
Martin
Judd

 

[azyboy]

I think people are forgetting how good Hird was. Him and Carey were the biggest players in the game over a number of seasons across the 90s and noughties. Could play CHF, in the guts and CHB and dominate everywhere.

Has to be top 2-3.

 

[theasian]

I think people are forgetting how good Hird was. Him and Carey were the biggest players in the game over a number of seasons across the 90s and noughties. Could play CHF, in the guts and CHB and dominate everywhere.

Has to be top 2-3.

Definitely the most versatile.

Having two injury riddled seasos in his prime affected his production though.

 

[Lingsface]

Barring a significant injury Oliver will be in the mix of players in the OP - currently the best player of the past few years.

Not damaging enough, maybe just above Dane Swan.

 

[The King!]

Dusty hasn't retired yet , random list

Ablett the best easily

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

1- GAJ
2- Voss
3- Hird
4- Judd
5- Martin
6- Buckley

 

[STRONGandBALD]

Since the conversation was about Bartlett your post is completely useless.

My post was about you saying it’s relatively new. It isn’t. KB played a long time ago bud. Not sure he even would’ve won 3 anyway.