Opinion Rank these players in order from 1-6: Gary Ablett Jnr, Nathan Buckley,James Hird, Chris Judd, Dustin Martin, Michael Voss

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Robert Harvey, Danger, Goodes,Mcleod, Riccuito Black, Mitchell, Pendles, Swan, Fyfe, Cousins, Selwood, Bartel, Hayes, Scott West.

That's how i'd rate the rest.
 

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HArd to split some big names there but I'd go with

Brett Voss, Nathan Ablett, Jack Martin, Dylan Buckley, James Hird, Judd McVee
 
For what it's worth on Home and Away performance I rate Pendlebury as clearly better than Martin (as well as longevity).
But when I factor in Martin's finals performances (not taking anything away from Pendlebury's various finals performances) then I've given Martin the slightest edge. I think that they both fall somewhere in the 40-50 range in my mental GOAT list (which I've never properly mapped out before).
Have to agree with this. Apart from 2010 when Pendles won the Norm Smith his other grand finals were below par. 2011 ok but was at peak of his game, 2018 very poor. If he did a Martin and was BOG in 2011 and 2018 May have been enough to get over the line. Especially 2018.
 
Have to agree with this. Apart from 2010 when Pendles won the Norm Smith his other grand finals were below par. 2011 ok but was at peak of his game, 2018 very poor. If he did a Martin and was BOG in 2011 and 2018 May have been enough to get over the line. Especially 2018.
IIRC Adams was your best midfielder in the grand final against us.
Guy was winning clearances everywhere that day.
 
Peak Judd and maybe 2017 Martin were on a different planet.

Ablett Jnr had phenomenal consistency. Buckley played in a poor side in the late 90's which was a bit of a waste, his skills were awesome.
 

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Judd
Buckley
Voss
Ablett jnr
Hird
Martin


Judd is never talked about in GOAT talk as much as the others mentioned, which I find strange. He started dominating the league from game 1. Wasn't as explosive at Carlton, but he was just as influential. Not to mention dealing with a host of taggers not leaving him alone.

Buckley more of the same.
 
Ablett Jnr is very overrated. Got a lot of possessions but for most of them possessions did bugger all with them other than sell team mates into trouble. Reportedly Poor leadership ability at the suns. Appeared to be a very selfish player that was more concerned with his stats.

Dusty is a big game player, other than that doesn’t really stand out.

Judd at West Coast playing along side Cousins and co who could cover for him was exceptional. At Carlton where he didn’t have that support, resorted to chicken wing tackles and eye gouging

Buckley great kick of the footy.

Hird possibly underrated but could lift his team mates up, will probably be known for the supplements saga if anything now that diminishes his playing career.

Voss is probably the pick of them. A strong leader, had great support in Black, Ackermanis ect. Played with courage and could inspire those around him.

none of them compares to Greg Williams who was excellent off both sides of his body, could stand up in tackles, 95% of his possessions hurt the opposition as he had that wonderful vision. The only other player that comes close to Williams was Sam Mitchell who had similar qualities. The issue with Williams and Mitchell was they were never flashy, they kept it simple and utilised their strengths. So are often overlooked.
 
Rank these players in order from 1-6.

Gary Ablett Jnr, Nathan Buckley, James Hird. Chris Judd, Dustin Martin, Michael Voss.

Dusty (only player that has dragged his team to three premierships)
Ablett Jnr (best H&A player ever)
Luke Hodge (best leader-player of the last 50 years, made everyone around him better too)
Voss (an absolute brute mid that was the best in his era)
Hird (midfield and forward maestro)
Buckley (prodigious talent and kick)


Judd ( the most overrated player in AFL/VFL history)
 
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How many are putting Hird last because of his involvement in the doping scandal rather than playing ability?

Were Voss and Buckley actually better players?
I do think that plays a part.

Honestly IMO other than Gaz Jnr, you can make a case for any player to come last. It's very tight between the crop. Injuries did affect Hird in his prime.
 
Ablett Jnr is very overrated. Got a lot of possessions but for most of them possessions did bugger all with them other than sell team mates into trouble. Reportedly Poor leadership ability at the suns. Appeared to be a very selfish player that was more concerned with his stats.

Dusty is a big game player, other than that doesn’t really stand out.

Judd at West Coast playing along side Cousins and co who could cover for him was exceptional. At Carlton where he didn’t have that support, resorted to chicken wing tackles and eye gouging

Buckley great kick of the footy.

Hird possibly underrated but could lift his team mates up, will probably be known for the supplements saga if anything now that diminishes his playing career.

Voss is probably the pick of them. A strong leader, had great support in Black, Ackermanis ect. Played with courage and could inspire those around him.

none of them compares to Greg Williams who was excellent off both sides of his body, could stand up in tackles, 95% of his possessions hurt the opposition as he had that wonderful vision. The only other player that comes close to Williams was Sam Mitchell who had similar qualities. The issue with Williams and Mitchell was they were never flashy, they kept it simple and utilised their strengths. So are often overlooked.
I rate Diesel just behind Ablett Jnr and ahead of the others.

I have chose these six because they played footy in the 21st Century .
 

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Opinion Rank these players in order from 1-6: Gary Ablett Jnr, Nathan Buckley,James Hird, Chris Judd, Dustin Martin, Michael Voss

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